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Gautam said:
Replace right-wing with left-wing, and the statement would be equally true. Its just the two groups select different things to remember.

We have to look no further than our history books, the leftist academics have made many successful attempts to distort our history in a way that is politically palatable to them. Now when the right-wing tries to "rectify" these books, the leftist historians cry their heart out. They are criticising the other side for doing what they have done for a long time. Hypocrisy much ?

A border is what marks out the geography of a nation. The last time I checked, it was the left that wanted open borders, not the right. Doesn't open borders in effect mean end of nations as we know them ?

Historically, the rise of the Left globally was largely due to the failings of the Right. Similarly the rise of the Right we see now, is due to the failings of the Left. It is a circle that keeps turning.

Yes you are right there are many great contributions brought about by the Left to humanity. It is undeniable. However one must also admit that the Left as it were in its heyday, is not the left as it is today. The left of the old brought about universal adult suffrage, fundamental rights and so on, thus I admire them greatly. The left today speaks of eating babies to stop global warming, you'd forgive me if I find nothing worth admiring there.

Politics is a churn, it always has been. It is those actions and the combined with lunacy and pseudo-science that drove people away from the left to the right. I suppose its only a matter of time before the right fu*ks up and we go to the left again. That's just how things work in democracies, well most democracies anyway.

I suppose the most important take away is that, its not that people are attracted to a certain political ideology(left or right). Its just that they are repulsed by the other side. Just my two paisa.
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Left distorting history was always an ambiguous statement, but even if they did they seemed to have been even in their neglect. Some of my friends and colleagues remind me how left historians never spoke about Muslim armies destroying Hindu places of worship( which is not true. Considering there were so many instances it would have been impossible to mention all in the history books, hence salutary references like the Somnath were always present) however when i tell them that left historians also have brushed aside Hindu armies and kings destroying Hindu( and non Hindu) places of worship from their books, it is casually brushed aside. Left historians seem to have been operating upon the same dictum that Renan had laid down for forging a national narrative by remembering to forget.

Old center-left ideology has collapsed because post cold war its chief global ideologues turned tail against its core principles and were co-opted by the false dawn of social-capitalism and no doubt people were able to see through their contradiction and rejected it. However the failure of its modern day ideologues should not lead to tarring an entire ideology which has so significantly helped in the positive evolution of human society. While i share your optimism that left will have its 'apna time ayenga' moment in the future, but with the benefit of hindsight of history, i shudder to think at the enormous chaos and loss of lives through violence, before this wheel turns around completely.There are some lessons from history, with all due regard to Renan, are best not forgotten.
 
S. A. T. A said:
Left distorting history was always an ambiguous statement, but even if they did they seemed to have been even in their neglect. Some of my friends and colleagues remind me how left historians never spoke about Muslim armies destroying Hindu places of worship( which is not true. Considering there were so many instances it would have been impossible to mention all in the history books, hence salutary references like the Somnath were always present) however when i tell them that left historians also have brushed aside Hindu armies and kings destroying Hindu( and non Hindu) places of worship from their books, it is casually brushed aside. Left historians seem to have been operating upon the same dictum that Renan had laid down for forging a national narrative by remembering to forget.

Old center-left ideology has collapsed because post cold war its chief global ideologues turned tail against its core principles and were co-opted by the false dawn of social-capitalism and no doubt people were able to see through their contradiction and rejected it. However the failure of its modern day ideologues should not lead to tarring an entire ideology which has so significantly helped in the positive evolution of human society. While i share your optimism that left will have its 'apna time ayenga' moment in the future, but with the benefit of hindsight of history, i shudder to think at the enormous chaos and loss of lives through violence, before this wheel turns around completely.There are some lessons from history, with all due regard to Renan, are best not forgotten.
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Your arguments pre suppose that the left movement internationally was a benign movement for the emancipation of mankind whereas the history of the USSR under Lenin & Stalin & China under Mao suggest otherwise . Mao & Stalin along with Hitler ranks among the biggest mass murderers in history for which Hitler is universally condemned but not Stalin & Mao who enjoy an unfavorable reputation in predominantly Western countries and select ones in their own countries.

Closer home the culture of political violence in WB is there before you. Mamata used the very same techniques that got the Left to power including using their own apparatchiks who now under the TMC are up to the same nefarious activities that they were under the Left.That these leftists facilitated the entry and settlement of Bangladeshi Muslims into India with requisite documents to establish their citizenship here after a religious based partition when a good number of the party grandees were themselves refugees during partition was simply forgotten. Does one put it down to institutional amnesia or the craving to remain in power.

Same is true about Kerala except the Left is still a power to reckon with there. The entire modus operandi of the Left including the terminology of the Left resembles the an Abrahamic religion more specifically the Church. Replace pagan for bourgeoisie, the elite for protelariat, blasphemy for counter revolutionary and there you are with Marx as the Messiah and Lenin & others as apostles.

Attack the religion of the majority by exploitation of it's internal fault lines, target the elites, launch a revolution against the state, weaken it from within, defeat it, seize power, establish a dictatorship in the name of the people and establish your own hegemony followed by your progeny as observed with the princelings in PRC.


Yes. There has been a lot of good which has come out of the Left ideology. Like the agricultural reforms launched in WB & Kerala. Where it came to industry, in WB they led their old hatred that the Bhadralok had for the Marwaris get it the way.Result - one of the most indutrialized states in India was emaciated to the extent that a vast majority of fresh graduates in both Kerala & WB seek employment outside of these states. What's more they're more successful too & don't see any motivation to return there.They also happen to be more industrious & productive as compared to their counterparts left behind.

I didn't dwell on the positive aspects of the Left ideology as Gautam already has. Consider this to be a critique of the dark side of this movement which far far outweighs it's positive aspects. But human memory being what it is, who remembers? Besides when has mankind ever followed a linear path to progress & enlightenment ?

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S. A. T. A said:
Left historians seem to have been operating upon the same dictum that Renan had laid down for forging a national narrative by remembering to forget.
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If that is what they are doing then they are pretty bad at that too. Here is a very recent example :

https://twitter.com/x/status/1180174865522806784

The primary tool of Left in India do deal with Hindus is : "Divide and Conquer". This is where the caste based appeasement politics stems out of. The argument used is the upper castes have subjugated the lower castes for 1000s of years and thus deserve, what the Americans would call, positive discrimination. Then came the recent phenomenon, the consolidation of Hindu votes turning the BJP into a election winning juggernaut. This is a new phenomenon and thus the way to counter this is again the same divide the Hindus based on caste. This is the background reason why the lady on the video is claiming Hinduism was born in the 20th century, but strangely enough a religion formed a 100 years ago has been subjugating people for a 1000 years.

Weird isn't it ? If Hinduism is merely 100 years old, surely the reservations for SC/ST would stop a 100 years after they came to effect, right ? But we both know that isn't happening. I will be called a casteist by the "liberals" for spitting out this statement. So liberal they are.

The left seems to have a strange idea of nation building where it is absolutely necessary to keep the majority scattered and appease the minority. That too not all minorities, the particularly problematic one, the other minorities can fu*k themselves.

I wonder if they would be making such attempts at breaking the consolidation of the majority if the majority was going to vote for them. Food for thought I guess.
S. A. T. A said:
While i share your optimism that left will have its 'apna time ayenga' moment in the future, but with the benefit of hindsight of history, i shudder to think at the enormous chaos and loss of lives through violence, before this wheel turns around completely.There are some lessons from history, with all due regard to Renan, are best not forgotten.
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Weird that you make it sound like the world was a utopia when the left politically dominated it. That's not the case at all. But you are right people will die. This way or that way.
 
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Your arguments pre suppose that the left movement internationally was so benign movement for the emancipation of mankind whereas the history of the USSR under Lenin & Stalin & China under Mao was hardly so. Mao & Stalin along with Hitler ranks among the biggest mass murderers in history for which Hitler is universally condemned but not Stalin & Mao who enjoy an unfavorable reputation in Western circles and select ones in their own countries.

Closer home the culture of political violence in WB is there before you. Mamata used the very same techniques that got the Left to power including using their own apparatchiks who now under the TMC are up to the same nefarious activities that they were under the Left.

Same is true about Kerala except the Left is still a power to reckon with there. The entire modus operandi of the Left including the terminology of the Left resembles the an Abrahamic religion more specifically the Church. Replace pagan for bourgeoisie, the elite for protelariat, blasphemy for counter revolutionary and there you are with Marx as the Messiah and Lenin & others as apostles.

Attack the religion of the majority by exploitation of it's internal fault lines, target the elites, launch a revolution against the state, weaken it from within, defeat it, seize power, establish a dictatorship in the name of the people and establish your own hegemony followed by your progeny as observed with the princelings in PRC.


Yes. There has been a lot of good which has come out of the Left ideology. I won't dwell on it as Gautam already has. Consider this to be a critique of the dark side of this movement.
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I have no sympathies for the communist left, Indian or the soviet type. Much like what happened in Iran, The Russian revolution was a socialist revolution led by the socialist left intelligentsia of Russia, but would later by hijacked by the western mole like Lenin and his Bolsheviks in the October Putsch. Stalin was no more socialist than Hitler was, although both were avowed socialists.

However in their defense and in particular the way the communist movement shaped in India, we must not be disengage it from the social milieu and power hierarchy that existed in Indian and which the socialists were hoping to overthrow. I cannot speak with authority regarding Bengal, but in Kerala the Jenmi system( zamindari system) was well entrenched and the dual backing of the state( both the native kingdoms and the British) and the exploitative caste system. Left intellectuals like Bose and others thought Gandhian socialism was too cumbersome and too accommodating to be able to uproot the uneven socio-political system and hence advocated more violent action. Communist violence in Bengal and Kerala had its origin in the violent suppression of the left movement by ruling socialist congress party which was status quoist by nature.
 
Gautam said:
If that is what they are doing then they are pretty bad at that too. Here is a very recent example :

https://twitter.com/x/status/1180174865522806784

The primary tool of Left in India do deal with Hindus is : "Divide and Conquer". This is where the caste based appeasement politics stems out of. The argument used is the upper castes have subjugated the lower castes for 1000s of years and thus deserve, what the Americans would call, positive discrimination. Then came the recent phenomenon, the consolidation of Hindu votes turning the BJP into a election winning juggernaut. This is a new phenomenon and thus the way to counter this is again the same divide the Hindus based on caste. This is the background reason why the lady on the video is claiming Hinduism was born in the 20th century, but strangely enough a religion formed a 100 years ago has been subjugating people for a 1000 years.

Weird isn't it ? If Hinduism is merely 100 years old, surely the reservations for SC/ST would stop a 100 years after they came to effect, right ? But we both know that isn't happening. I will be called a casteist by the "liberals" for spitting out this statement. So liberal they are.

The left seems to have a strange idea of nation building where it is absolutely necessary to keep the majority scattered and appease the minority. That too not all minorities, the particularly problematic one, the other minorities can fu*k themselves.

I wonder if they would be making such attempts at breaking the consolidation of the majority if the majority was going to vote for them. Food for thought I guess.

Weird that you make it sound like the world was a utopia when the left politically dominated it. That's not the case at all. But you are right people will die. This way or that way.
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I'm not aware of this Lady Professor, but she appears to have a simplistic understanding of what the scholars describe as Neo-Hinduism that emerged early 19th century. The idea that modern universal Hinduism is a later construct is not new, but not as simple and general as the professor puts it. Socialist intellects of the 19th century and the leaders of the freedom movement recognized the need to separate the caste system from its religious backdrop and acknowledge it for what it was, a discriminatory social practice premised on the distinction of classes of men. Socialist religious thinkers like Vivekananda and Narayana Guru perhaps played greater role in saving Hinduism by rejecting the caste system as not sanctioned by religion. No doubt caste based reservation was discriminating and seemingly ironical in the face of a constitution which calls for all men to treated equally. However was there a better way to end the discrimination against the exploited castes and communities. Could Hindu society have survived if a vast number of its own were denied right to dignity and social advancement.

P:S - Left wing movement, esp the communists have always been against all religions. In Europe they have targeted Christians and India since the Hindus are the vast majority, became the obvious target of its ire. I don't believe they selectively hate Hindus. In Kerala communists are violently opposed to the Church too.
 
S. A. T. A said:
I have no sympathies for the communist left, Indian or the soviet type. Much like what happened in Iran, The Russian revolution was a socialist revolution led by the socialist left intelligentsia of Russia, but would later by hijacked by the western mole like Lenin and his Bolsheviks in the October Putsch. Stalin was no more socialist than Hitler was, although both were avowed socialists..
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We really don't know much about the Mensheviks save to say that they were socialists & democrats in their outlook. Having said that, universal adult franchise was a fairly novel & new phenomenon then. I write this as there's no way of knowing what program the Mensheviks would've undertaken to aid the rise of the Russian state. I'm also not a fan of alternate history. Socialists the world over have had to cede ground to the communists who in turn have exhibited natural violent tendencies throughout time across the world in prosecution of their cause. Communists in India are no exception to the rule.


S. A. T. A said:
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However in their defense and in particular the way the communist movement shaped in India, we must not be disengage it from the social milieu and power hierarchy that existed in Indian and which the socialists were hoping to overthrow. I cannot speak with authority regarding Bengal, but in Kerala the Jenmi system( zamindari system) was well entrenched and the dual backing of the state( both the native kingdoms and the British) and the exploitative caste system. Left intellectuals like Bose and others thought Gandhian socialism was too cumbersome and too accommodating to be able to uproot the uneven socio-political system and hence advocated more violent action. Communist violence in Bengal and Kerala had its origin in the violent suppression of the left movement by ruling socialist congress party which was status quoist by nature.
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I get the impression you're implying the socialists wanted to engineer social change thru the barrel of the gun. I don't buy your narrative. While existing power heirarchies around & immediately after independence were opressive, it's to the credit of the Congress and the national mood that steps like redistribution of agricultural land, affirmative action, etc formed a prominent part of their agenda. That they undertook the former in half measures is also testament to the inborn Congress habit of balancing both halves / travelling in two boats with a foot in either at the same time - something that seems to have become an article of faith with them under Indira Gandhi & subsequent Congress leaders.

However, these moves certainly unshackled the intermediate castes who under Charan Singh formed the first non Congress government in UP in the late 60's which was short lived & which in turn was a pre cursor for the so called socialist parties but actually family & caste centric parties who took power in UP & Bihar since the late 80's onwards. When viewed retrospectively, benefitting from 20/20 vision , that's how power gradually shifts - from the minority elite to the disenfranchised in school graduated manner like they're supposed to in representative democracies unlike total revolution as advocated by the Communists.

However, to add to the conundrum in India , class wasn't the sole marker of the disenfranchised.Caste played an equally important role.Class & caste were tough to balance.Neither The socialists not the communists paid much attention / ignored the caste dynamic especially when it came to the Dalits.The lowest in the social heirarchy - the Dalits were the beneficiaries of affirmative action, yet how many were emancipated in the first 2-3 decades since independence.


Their story in TN - the self declared bastion of lower caste emancipation under the Self Respect movement is there for all to see. The upper castes - read the brahmins there seem to have been replaced by the intermediate castes who seem equally repressive if not more in emphasising their hegemony over the Dalits.In that respect Kerala is a notable exception. One would have thought given the similarities in the socio- cultural mileu between TN & Kerala they would be natural supporters of the self respect movement by Naicker given that outside of TN this movement did garner quite a lot of support in Kerala. Yet post independence, the communists filled that position. How far have they succeeded in social emancipation of the Dalits there is open to debate. But the land reforms they undertook was certainly welcome. At least when viewed from the PoV of the intermediate castes.

I think you're conflating Bose's moves against the British to similar moves by such socialists against entrenched power elites in post independent India. Bose may have been a socialist but his primary agenda was always to overthrow British rule. I haven't read much on his approach to social emancipation of the depressed castes where I'd include the intermediate castes & the Dalits.

The Congress certainly played dirty by dismissing the EMS led communist government from power in Kerala. From the little I know, I can't say whether violence was the preferred tool adopted by the Congress to suppress the Communists there. I'd have to differ with you on that count. However, The Communist movement in WB is certainly synonymous with the Naxalbari movement with its accompanying mindless violence. Something that the communists employed to great effect to consolidate their power during their 3 decade reign there which Mamata seems to have duly emulated with similar results.
 
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S. A. T. A said:
I'm not aware of this Lady Professor, but she appears to have a simplistic understanding of what the scholars describe as Neo-Hinduism that emerged early 19th century. The idea that modern universal Hinduism is a later construct is not new, but not as simple and general as the professor puts it.
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Initially I regarded it to be benign ignorance. But lately it seems to me there is a pattern to it. They valourise other religions and trivialise Hinduism. This is not to say Hinduism doesn't have its evils, it does and those need to go. But what the "intellectuals" of today do it highlight the evils of Hinduism and brush evils of other religions under the rug. Remember the reaction of the left to the removal of Triple talaq ? The consolidation of the majority is very new and that's what they are having big problems with. They criticise Hindus that vote for BJP as if they are extremist, but when the real extremist blow people up the "intellectuals" are nowhere to be found.
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Could Hindu society have survived if a vast number of its own were denied right to dignity and social advancement.
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Survive, yes. Thrive, no. The structural changes that have been made to the religion and the broader society are here to stay. Those changes came about largely due to the Hindus wanting it anyway. Sure there will be few isolated cases to the contrary here and there, that is to be expected in a country the size of India. But the broader society remains the same. Even if you revert reservation now, I don't think anybody would be practicing untouchability anymore. People have changed.

You can say the same thing for homosexuality too. It became legal because the broader society wanted it, not because the Supreme Court mandated it. If the society disagreed with the Supreme Court there would be protests or outright violation of the order(remember last yer the SC told people to not burst crackers on Diwali after 10 pm. How did that go ? That is what dis-agreement looks like). There has been no protest against the ruling of legalising homosexuality, I do remember a few fatwas being issued by some Maulvis.

Also, you mention S. C. Bose. By many account the man was a devout Hindu, he set up many places in Bengal for the worship of Godess Durga, Bharat maa and so on. Unlike M. K. Gandhi he would take to violence when needed. He allied with the Nazis to fight the Brits. He made his own army. Not to mention his fiery speeches : "Give me blood, I will give you freedom". This is the man you mention when you talk about positive societial changes brought about by the left. This guy look leftist to you ? If anybody today does a quarter of what this man has done, he would be branded by the left as a "Hindu terrorist". Do you see what I mean when I say the left of the old is very different from the left of today ?

S. A. T. A said:
P:S - Left wing movement, esp the communists have always been against all religions. In Europe they have targeted Christians and India since the Hindus are the vast majority, became the obvious target of its ire. I don't believe they selectively hate Hindus. In Kerala communists are violently opposed to the Church too.
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Since you mentioned EU and Kerala let me put in the account of NE. Initially in all the NE states, the majority religion was Hinduism/Buddhism and its various forms. Every tribe had their own way of worshiping, own traditions, customs, dieties and so on. Then in came the missionaries to "rescue" our people and soon enough the conversions began. The left at that time vehemently supported the conversion machinery. Why ? Money of course, they used to get a lot of cash from the Baptist church which in turn was funded from abroad. Now as expected some states were more resistant than the others. Manipur for example fell for it, becoming Christian majority in a very small period of time. Tripura on the other hand resisted it, politicians who were supported the Church was ostracised irrespective of their political inclination. This made it immensely difficult for the Church to muster up any political clout. Soon enough things turned violent, a few newly formed Christian outfits demanded a new country to be formed for Christians only. Nobody took them seriously initially, then began the onslaught of kidnappings, bombings, murder, rape etc.

Our society reacted pretty much the same way any society reacts in such situation. Anger, contempt and a virulent desire to put up a fight. The left quickly realised this and changed their stance virtually overnight. The Congress, the idiots that they are, completely failed to recognise the shifting grounds. The Congress lost power to the left and till date has failed to make a comeback. The left govt. led by Mr. Manik Sarkar put up a vicious fight against the Christian separatists, the same people that they previously supported. Why do I say vicious ? Cuz the fight against the Christian separatists polarised our society against Christians, all of them irrespective of whether they are separatist or not. No political party wants to associate with them anymore. That basically takes away their voice in politics. This is something a lot of people from Tripura have difficulty admitting, its true and very unfortunate. We just don't like admitting it. If you look at South Asia terror monitor, you will see that Tripura has had zero instances of separatist/extremist violence. Tripura is often cited as a successful case of a state fighting against terror, that victory however came at a price of fracturing our society. This is why a lot of former terror outfits now want to join the mainstream and form political parties to contest elections. As I once told @_Anonymous_ , these guy just want political legitimacy not a separate state/country anymore.

The point of this long rant is that I don't agree with the notion that left hates all religion equally, nope they don't. They just hate the majority, whatever it is. The left in Manipur that aided and abbetted the conversion machinery now fights against the Christians.
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India Today Impact: Director of UK portal that claimed mass EVM hacking in India resigns

The director of TNN World, a UK-based portal which ran undercover stories slamming demonetisation and EVMs, resigned from her erotic massage company after the portal was exposed by India Today’s Open Source Investigation.

By Ankit Kumar
New Delhi
October 7, 2019; 15:31 IST
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Opposition leaders had cited a video released by TNN World to allege demonetisation fraud by BJP workers in the run up to the Lok Sabha election. (Photo: PTI)

The Romanian director of TNN World, the UK-based news portal which ran undercover stories slamming India's demonetisation and EVMs ahead of the Lok Sabha elections, has resigned from her erotic massage company, months after the portal was exposed by India Today’s Open Source Investigation.

Diana Biciin’s resignation as director of Eva’s Tantric Massages Limited had come two days after she dismissed India Today’s report as false propaganda.

The parent company behind the news portal TNN (standing for Tri Colour News Network Ltd) World has also formally applied for dissolution. Earlier, an India Today Open Source Investigation (OSINT) had revealed that the director of UK-based news portal TNN World, which had claimed rigging of electronic voting machines (EVMs), had opened an erotic massage services company in London. The probe had revealed that the Dina had switched the business model -- from a global news platform to a sensual massage service.

Opposition party leaders in India, which included Congress leader Kapil Sibal, had held multiple press conferences based on TNN reports in connection with EVM rigging and money laundering.

The investigation

On June 27, India Today investigation found that the UK-based news portal had gone offline with its sole director Diana Irina Biciin assuming the directorship of a London-based company Eva’s Tantric Massage (ETM), which offered erotic massage services in London.

In response to the India Today investigation, Biciin issued a statement claiming that the TNN portal was under a cyber attack. It is factually incorrect and false propaganda that TNN has anything to do with erotic massages etc as claimed by India Today, Biciin had said in a statement on June 28.

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In the latest development, fresh corporate filings made on the behalf of Biciin and her company before UK authorities have revealed that merely two days after Biciin termed the India Today investigation false propaganda, her directorship from the ETM was terminated.

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The company, however, reported this development to the UK authorities last week through official filings in the UK.

In another development, the parent company behind TNN news portal, Tricolour News Network Ltd, has also filed an application of dissolution.

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Romanian national Diana Biciin was the only director holding majority shares in Tricolour News Network Ltd. The news portal has been offline for over four months and despite cyber attack claims, the portal hasn’t come back online.

Diana Biciin’s Facebook profile describes her as director of operations at TNN World while official records show that Biciin held more than 75% shares in Tricolour News Network Ltd.

TNN came into the spotlight after it published reports alleging massive irregularities during the Lok Sabha elections. Opposition leaders, including former Union ministers Kapil Sibal, Ghulam Nabi Azad and Sharad Yadav, Ahmed Patel of the Congress, Hemant Soren of the JMM and Manoj Jha of the RJD, had addressed a joint press conference in New Delhi, showing a purported sting operation carried out by TNN World.

Sibal carried on with two more press conferences based on TNN stories, one of which claimed that the BJP's top leadership ran a money-exchange operation with the help of officials from 26 different departments, including India's external intelligence agency, the Research and Analysis Wing (R&AW). TNN World described itself as "an independent, UK-based news publisher".

India Today Impact: Director of UK portal that claimed mass EVM hacking in India resigns
 
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Malpura tense after clashes over Dussehra procession, shops burnt - Times of India

Rajasthan: Curfew imposed, internet snapped in Tonk after clashes over Dussehra procession
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This used to be standard affair for peacefuls in my hometown till 1991. Every dussehra procession would face stone pelting in the by lanes of Cuttack. Then 1992 happened and the massive retaliation ensured that not a single stone is pelted since then.
 
Historians would divide these events into the following eras :

The era of "secularism and tolerance" :
Bali78 said:
This used to be standard affair for peacefuls in my hometown till 1991. Every dussehra procession would face stone pelting in the by lanes of Cuttack.
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The era of "durrr ka mahoul" :
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Then 1992 happened and the massive retaliation ensured that not a single stone is pelted since then.
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