India evacuates staff from Kandahar consulate as Taliban advance into city | India News - Times of India
Frankly , I would've thought the ANA being some 200 k strong would've put up a fight. They seem to be collapsing like Ninepins . The Najib Government showed much more resilience than these nincompoops . Acc to this report it's game over within a few weeks . It's no wonder the Afghan Govt was almost pleading for a national unity government as a compromise.
Meanwhile Pakistan is doing what it does best . Allow it's tanzeems to fight within Afghanistan alongside the PA both ex & serving personnel as well as alongside the Taliban.
There's no sign of any mobilization by the NA or news about Abdullah Abdullah , Amrullah Saleh & Masood . The situation as it stands is far too depressing & alarming than previously thought based on extant news .
@Milspec ; @Nilgiri
If this means losing control of the rest of the country at the cost of holding Kabul & the Panjshir valley I don't see how's that going to help . They may only prolong the war at best in case of the former . I wonder how are supplies & logistics going to be managed though.Let us see how things develop around Kabul, that is where ANA is going to consolidate around the blackwater "consultancy" crew....logistically the other cities are just too much for them.
It wont be over there in few weeks or even this year I feel....at least from what I have seen so far in the ANA handles based there.
Well,India evacuates staff from Kandahar consulate as Taliban advance into city | India News - Times of India
Frankly , I would've thought the ANA being some 200 k strong would've put up a fight. They seem to be collapsing like Ninepins . The Najib Government showed much more resilience than these nincompoops . Acc to this report it's game over within a few weeks . It's no wonder the Afghan Govt was almost pleading for a national unity government as a compromise.
Meanwhile Pakistan is doing what it does best . Allow it's tanzeems to fight within Afghanistan alongside the PA both ex & serving personnel as well as alongside the Taliban.
There's no sign of any mobilization by the NA or news about Abdullah Abdullah , Amrullah Saleh & Masood . The situation as it stands is far too depressing & alarming than previously thought based on extant news .
@Milspec ; @Nilgiri
This isn't a question of choice. It's a question of their survival . I doubt the non Pashtuns are going to be accepting of the Taliban. Ditto for the other minorities. Other than picking up arms whether as part of the ANA or otherwise , I really don't see how else will they survive.ANA is not Northern Alliance anymore, the fighters either are jaded or retired, the new crop is weak and derived from the non-fighting force, lack the will to fight as well as the tribal motvations that bound them in the past.
ANA was setup to fail. Afghanistan has no economy to sustain a trained military, unless it is propped up by aid. If its finances could have been sorted out, it could have had a chance.This isn't a question of choice. It's a question of their survival . I doubt the non Pashtuns are going to be accepting of the Taliban. Ditto for the other minorities. Other than picking up arms whether as part of the ANA or otherwise , I really don't see how else will they survive.
Furthermore the kind of internecine quarrels observed between different Mujahideen groups that dominated the post Soviet withdrawal won't be seen this time around . The Taliban has always been a disciplined force . This time around the situation is more of a 1996 type than of a 1989 type.
ANA was setup to fail. Afghanistan has no economy to sustain a trained military, unless it is propped up by aid. If its finances could have been sorted out, it could have had a chance.
At this point, there is nothing, just some farming, and opium trade.
The only way it could have been rescued if US provides air support. Pretty soon Taliban will create choke points, and Kabul will run out of fuel. No fuel, no air superiority, and Kabul done.
On the other hand, US could straight up threaten Pakistan to control it's dogs or it will be back to drones, and see if they bite.
barbarians, these savages have been totally brainwashed to murder any thing that moves. We will see more such incidents, this is direct result of hasty US withdrawal which has emboldened taliban & their backers. Frankly it would have been better without any US invasion, now they have simply made things worse than before.
Well,
Remember after 87 withdrawal by the soviets, a bunch stayed back, during the Mujhahideen civil, the russians fired close to 400 scuds at the insurgents killing almost 2000 of them.
Also there was no clear target. everyone was fighting everyone. Massoud fought against Najib's soviet back forces, so did dostum, Hekymetyaars hizb, then there was Abdul Haq's attacking Kabul, I forgot the name of the old guy, some saferi or naderi something like that fought hizb as well as dostum. The massoud fought all of the Pashtuns and also Dostum. So everyone was busy fighting each other that gave Kabul more time untill they reached the accords.
And lastly remember Kabul fell to Massoud and Dostum alliance, a force back in the day to reckon with, So much so they broke the backs of Hizb once and then hizb+isi+mullah omar next. They ran out of resources and had to fall back to panjshir.
ANA is not Northern Alliance anymore, the fighters either are jaded or retired, the new crop is weak and derived from the non-fighting force, lack the will to fight as well as the tribal motvations that bound them in the past.