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Indians cheering on our politician statement is like a joke. You haven't tried anything since feb27. We engaged 2 targets, we left 7 targets unharmed. This is Mercy. Ask iaf. Ask brigade hq. They heard bombs. We did great and who will compensate for helicopter kill? It was such a nice revenge. You hit our marine plane near sir Creek. We hit you openly, at daytime. Now think about those 6 souls. I say! Rest in peace.
None of your target actually hit anything. Also all of them were duds. Your airstrike was hawa Hawaii like everything else your army says...
 
It has more to do with the statement of Pak FM where he criticised SA on not supporting Pak on Kashmir issue. Also the blundrous statement of IK where he blamed SA of not letting him to attend Kuala Lumpur summit.

Although those were visible, I don't think it's that simple.

KL summit was about an anti-Saudi alliance. And Qatar and Turkey are close to Pakistan as it is, which also makes Iran close to Pak. So I was actually referring to the overall anti-Saudi alliance that's coming up in the Muslim world.

So it appears Pakistan is choosing a side, and it's not with the GCC.

The transition was pretty quick. Merely early last year Pak and SA were close, it's only by the end of the year that things went bad for Pakistan. What's happening know is either the Saudis forcing Pak to submit to them, or Pak has gone off the deep end of the Pak-Saudi relationship.
 
Although those were visible, I don't think it's that simple.

KL summit was about an anti-Saudi alliance. And Qatar and Turkey are close to Pakistan as it is, which also makes Iran close to Pak. So I was actually referring to the overall anti-Saudi alliance that's coming up in the Muslim world.

So it appears Pakistan is choosing a side, and it's not with the GCC.

The transition was pretty quick. Merely early last year Pak and SA were close, it's only by the end of the year that things went bad for Pakistan. What's happening know is either the Saudis forcing Pak to submit to them, or Pak has gone off the deep end of the Pak-Saudi relationship.
The way GCC has treated Pak on Kashmir issue since abrogation of art 370 there is nothing surprising if Pak chooses side. Still I don't think that Pak has done that, not attending KL summit is the biggest proof. Also Pak can't side with Iran as Iran claims parts of Baluchistan as its own territory and also supports insurgency inside Baluchistan. That is why Pakistani deep state won't ally with Iran.
Our former R&W chief has clearly hinted towards the involvement of Pakistan in killing Sulemani after which insurgency increased in Pak occupied Baluchistan and Pak COAS clearly blamed Iran for it. There is a religious angle too, Iran is a Shia state whereas Punjabi Sunnis dominate Pakistan and given the radicalism in Iranian leadership they will never forge an alliance with Pakistan.
So Iran is out of equation.
Only alliance against GCC that Pakistan could hope to stitch is with Turkey but IMO that is not possible as GCC still has enough 'tools' to pressurise Pakistan.
 
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The way GCC has treated Pak on Kashmir issue since abrogation of art 370 there is nothing surprising if Pak chooses side. Still I don't think that Pak has done that, not attending KL summit is the biggest proof. Also Pak can't side with Iran as Iran claims parts of Baluchistan as its own territory and also supports insurgency inside Baluchistan. That is why Pakistani deep state won't ally with Iran.
Our former R&W chief has clearly hinted towards the involvement of Pakistan in killing Sulemani after which insurgency increased in Pak occupied Baluchistan and Pak COAS clearly blamed Iran for it. There is a religious angle too, Iran is a Shia state whereas Punjabi Sunnis dominate Pakistan and given the radicalism in Iranian leadership they will never forge an alliance with Pakistan.
So Iran is out of equation.
Only alliance against GCC that Pakistan could hope to stitch is with Turkey but IMO that is not possible as GCC still has enough 'tools' to pressurise Pakistan.

Once Pakistan completely loses its sovereignty to China, the game will change.

The Chinese are boxing the West out of Asia through the line formed by Turkey, Iran and Pakistan. They are already doing a pretty good job of it.
 
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Indians cheering on our politician statement is like a joke. You haven't tried anything since feb27. We engaged 2 targets, we left 7 targets unharmed. This is Mercy. Ask iaf. Ask brigade hq. They heard bombs. We did great and who will compensate for helicopter kill? It was such a nice revenge. You hit our marine plane near sir Creek. We hit you openly, at daytime. Now think about those 6 souls. I say! Rest in peace.

Do you really trusts that theory?
Entire video clip is running in cyberworld .
We had seen two jets down and two parachute .
One was Wing Commander Abhinandan .
Who was the other one ?
Now what is Pakistanis saying is that ,it was a Su and half was in India and half was in PK?
But every one clearly saw the chutewas inside Pakistan and later said he is dead.
Where is the proof ?
Where is the body and where is wreckage ?
Within 24hrs DG ISPR contradicts their own statement 4 times

Only thing IAF didnt anticipate was long range AAM and they were successful in dodging the jet .and their was a friendly fire where base commander was court martialed .

Fact is we didnt want further escalation.
 
Although those were visible, I don't think it's that simple.

KL summit was about an anti-Saudi alliance. And Qatar and Turkey are close to Pakistan as it is, which also makes Iran close to Pak. So I was actually referring to the overall anti-Saudi alliance that's coming up in the Muslim world.

So it appears Pakistan is choosing a side, and it's not with the GCC.

The transition was pretty quick. Merely early last year Pak and SA were close, it's only by the end of the year that things went bad for Pakistan. What's happening know is either the Saudis forcing Pak to submit to them, or Pak has gone off the deep end of the Pak-Saudi relationship.

Under any circumstances GCC is far better than the current friends of Pak like China,Turkey.
Arabs are generous and helpful .But China and Turkey cant expect much from them.
Pakistan think that teaming up with China will help them to challenge India .

Once we are able to change the opinion of PRC then Pak as usual will back to square one .
Nation state only prefer profits .
China is also not different
 
Once Pakistan completely loses its sovereignty to China, the game will change.

The Chinese are boxing the West out of Asia through the line formed by Turkey, Iran and Pakistan. They are already doing a pretty good job of it.

Yup.
Chinese are doing a good job.
They wont involve directly but manipulate Pak,Iran etc.
But US is also not bad .
You see howthe made alliance with Israel and some GCC nations .
In return US will supply F 35 to Emirates .
Other GCC will follow means Chinese involvement is not going to happen there .
 
Probably not Iran but Turkey .
And Turkey and Iran is same on various issues.

For Saudis , its like after all these decades we fed them but at the end they betrayed .

There's been a significant convergence of interests between Turkey and Iran on many issues. Particularly so when Israel and the GCC are making peace with each other.


And in the case of Pakistan, Iran is an actual military threat to Pakistan, while the Saudis are not. And with this massive Chinese plan to invest $400B in a mere 5-year period in Iran, their economic and military muscle will expand far beyond Pakistan's ability to handle. Hence the need to make peace with Iran.
Under any circumstances GCC is far better than the current friends of Pak like China,Turkey.
Arabs are generous and helpful .But China and Turkey cant expect much from them.
Pakistan think that teaming up with China will help them to challenge India .

Once we are able to change the opinion of PRC then Pak as usual will back to square one .
Nation state only prefer profits .
China is also not different

A weak state is nothing more than a shuttle cock.
Yup.
Chinese are doing a good job.
They wont involve directly but manipulate Pak,Iran etc.
But US is also not bad .
You see howthe made alliance with Israel and some GCC nations .
In return US will supply F 35 to Emirates .
Other GCC will follow means Chinese involvement is not going to happen there .

Lines are clearly being drawn now, between the East and the West.
 
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There's been a significant convergence of interests between Turkey and Iran on many issues. Particularly so when Israel and the GCC are making peace with each other.


And in the case of Pakistan, Iran is an actual military threat to Pakistan, while the Saudis are not. And with this massive Chinese plan to invest $400B in a mere 5-year period in Iran, their economic and military muscle will expand far beyond Pakistan's ability to handle. Hence the need to make peace with Iran.


A weak state is nothing more than a shuttle cock.

Pathetic story state of moron political parties wasted around 3 decades of India.
In 1997 ,PRC was hardly 1trillion $ economy .
Look at them now.
No wonder at least for next 20 years Congress would remain in opposition.
 
Once Pakistan completely loses its sovereignty to China, the game will change.

The Chinese are boxing the West out of Asia through the line formed by Turkey, Iran and Pakistan. They are already doing a pretty good job of it.
In that case it won't be Pakistan which will be choosing sides. Hence it doesn't concern our present discussion. Although I agree that whatever you have stated is definitely the long term goal of China but I don't think Chinese will succeed in achieving them. But that is off topic.
 
In that case it won't be Pakistan which will be choosing sides. Hence it doesn't concern our present discussion. Although I agree that whatever you have stated is definitely the long term goal of China but I don't think Chinese will succeed in achieving them. But that is off topic.

Yep. But whether China succeeds or not, they will control Pakistan's foreign policy, and possibly even Iran's. So whether Pakistan will get closer to a country or not will be subject to how close the relations with China is.
 
Well, beggars can't be choosers & if wishes were horses, Paxtanis would ride.

In the event, it's amply clear that you like other engineers are gainfully employed in the online food app services industry delivering halal meals all across Khi.

I don't see what's there to be ashamed of. It's certainly better than wearing a vest & going ka boom shouting Allah O ak.... It's also better than joining the fauj as our comprehensive Pak army casualty tracker makes abundantly clear.

Of course, The down side is your chances of getting into janna'h is vastly diminished. It's not that Allah doesn't like ordinary folk among you earning an honest living but that he prefers ordinary people like you doing extraordinary things in his name as per your all purpose book. But such is the tragedy of life these days, especially in naya Paxtan.
Boeing has recently finished 700 toilets in India. They want to make more. Look yourself before you throw stones on others.
 
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None of your target actually hit anything. Also all of them were duds. Your airstrike was hawa Hawaii like everything else your army says...
Yes nothing happened. India is powerful and nobody can drop bombs on indian territory hahaha. Joke of the day bro. We dominated iaf. Complete air Superiority bro.