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This is an excellent interview of Dr Ishtiaque Ahmed, author of the recent biography of Jinnah, which primarily seeks to debunk Ayeha Jalal's argument that Jinnah used the threat of Pakistan as a bargaining chip to garner more concessions from the Congress & the British, laying the blame for partition at the doors of the Congress primarily .

This thesis of Ayeha Jalal seems to have acquired a fair deal of traction among our own aman ka tamasha lobby including neo converts to it like Jaswant Singh & LK Advani who endorsed it in his book & publicly , respectively for different reasons.

Dr Ahmed does a stellar job debunking with firm evidence Jalal's argument such that the exasperation on Thapar's face & demeanor comes thru quite clearly. To his credit he does try his utmost to be a non partisan commentator & indeed succeeds for the most part though not for the entirety of the interview for obvious reasons.

To conclude, Dr Ahmed certainly qualifies to the title of an honest public intellectual & a very rare honest public intellectual at that for it's next to impossible to find one in Pakistan on the subject of Jinnah & partition , more so someone who systematically demolishes all claims that Jinnah was a secularist in the final reckoning or even a modernizing force of Islam or someone who had the best interests of the Indian Muslims of the British Raj at heart.

He paints the image of someone who was monomaniacal about his aim of securing a separate homeland for sub continental Muslims & succeeded at it in spite of the odds at tremendous costs to everyone , ruthlessly pursuing his aims, leaving a legacy of hate & destruction which's poisoned relationship between the two people & nations ever since.

Along with Venkat Dhulipalia's A New Medina which came out earlier & also systematically debunked Jalal's thesis, making an excellent companion piece to Dr Ishtiaque Ahmed's Jinnah, it's mandatory reading for those interssted in the two nation theory & the tortured history of those times.
 

This is an excellent interview of Dr Ishtiaque Ahmed, author of the recent biography of Jinnah, which primarily seeks to debunk Ayeha Jalal's argument that Jinnah used the threat of Pakistan as a bargaining chip to garner more concessions from the Congress & the British, laying the blame for partition at the doors of the Congress primarily .

This thesis of Ayeha Jalal seems to have acquired a fair deal of traction among our own aman ka tamasha lobby including neo converts to it like Jaswant Singh & LK Advani who endorsed it in his book & publicly , respectively for different reasons.

Dr Ahmed does a stellar job debunking with firm evidence Jalal's argument such that the exasperation on Thapar's face & demeanor comes thru quite clearly. To his credit he does try his utmost to be a non partisan commentator & indeed succeeds for the most part though not for the entirety of the interview for obvious reasons.

To conclude, Dr Ahmed certainly qualifies to the title of an honest public intellectual & a very rare honest public intellectual at that for it's next to impossible to find one in Pakistan on the subject of Jinnah & partition , more so someone who systematically demolishes all claims that Jinnah was a secularist in the final reckoning or even a modernizing force of Islam or someone who had the best interests of the Indian Muslims of the British Raj at heart.

He paints the image of someone who was monomaniacal about his aim of securing a separate homeland for sub continental Muslims & succeeded at it in spite of the odds at tremendous costs to everyone , ruthlessly pursuing his aims, leaving a legacy of hate & destruction which's poisoned relationship between the two people & nations ever since.

Along with Venkat Dhulipalia's A New Medina which came out earlier & also systematically debunked Jalal's thesis, making an excellent companion piece to Dr Ishtiaque Ahmed's Jinnah, it's mandatory reading for those interssted in the two nation theory & the tortured history of those times.

All these Newly MINTED Liberals
Are nothing but shameless Liars

They are dreadfully watching the Islamisation of Pakistan which will make them Run Away for their lives ,once the Mullahs take over

But ALL of them supported Jihad against India till it came back to bite them in the form of Islamist political parties

That Creep called YLH once openly confessed that the Only way to Prevent Islamisation in present day Pakistan , was ,if they had been a part of United India

That is Having a population of
500 Millions to Bully Hindus and having Liberated Zones of Islamist Rule without having
To Pay Taxes

Power without Responsibility

Having their Cake and Eating it too

With such Numbers they would
Have been the DE FACTO rulers
Large parts of the so called
" United India " would have become NO GO Areas for Hindus

Entire Kashmir , Punjab , Entire Bengal and North East ,
KPK , Sindh , Baloochistan
--- Every one of this place would have been Muslim Ruled But
Being FINANCED by Hindus
 
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This is another ex sane guy who's lost it since sometime. I wonder what's it about inbreds & Paxtan. The former takes time to manifest it's I'll effects in Paxtanis but manifest itself it does , however late it is in the lifespan of a man or woman.
 
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He's not having a meltdown at all. That's how true Paxtanis behave. They sense the direction the wind is blowing in & make their decision. This is justification to the public for exercising that option.

PDF fanboys are so sad these days , to see their beloved Imran khan having to lose his PM post

The only reason the PDF boys love him is because he is "Tough " on India and USA and Bajwa is a sell out
 
PDF fanboys are so sad these days , to see their beloved Imran khan having to lose his PM post

The only reason the PDF boys love him is because he is "Tough " on India and USA and Bajwa is a sell out
Members like kshitij sharma or screambowl or hydra or even GND or dickra have more informed opinions than the best of what PDF has to offer, leave aside the usual inbred crowd. This is a decade & a half of observing that cesspool speaking.
 
Members like kshitij sharma or screambowl or hydra or even GND or dickra have more informed opinions than the best of what PDF has to offer, leave aside the usual inbred crowd. This is a decade & a half of observing that cesspool speaking.

I read PDF , not to see What are they talking , But to see Why they are saying , whatever they say

It is a snapshot of Pakistani society