LCA Tejas Mk1 & Mk1A - News and discussions

Nasik facility will produce 1-2 airframes this FY. This FY, 18 airframe is possible. From next FY they will deliver 24 per year. They are planning to fully deliver current order of 84 by FY 2027-28.

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No, Nasik will be operational from November only. Check above interview.

Not clear what he's saying 'cause if Nashik is supposed to deliver jets by March 2025, then the line must already be operational.

I guess he's talking about the second half of the line for full 8 jets. Production is set up in batches of 4. And then he talks about setting up 4 more if necessary.
 
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So the LCA Mk1a made its maiden flight two months ago, and you're planning to produce 18 of them by March 2025?
Nasik facility will produce 1-2 airframes this FY. This FY, 18 airframe is possible. From next FY they will deliver 24 per year. They are planning to fully deliver current order of 84 by FY 2027-28.
perhaps the 18 delivered by March 2025 also include trainers?
 
Not clear what he's saying 'cause if Nashik is supposed to deliver jets by March 2025, then the line must already be operational.

I guess he's talking about the second half of the line for full 8 jets. Production is set up in batches of 4. And then he talks about setting up 4 more if necessary.
Nasik line is not operational. Currently jigs are getting installed. They are planning to roll out one airframe from the facility this FY.

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So the LCA Mk1a made its maiden flight two months ago, and you're planning to produce 18 of them by March 2025?
It will be mix of Mk1A and Mk1 FOC trainers.
 
So the LCA Mk1a made its maiden flight two months ago, and you're planning to produce 18 of them by March 2025?

Production from the other two lines has been going full swing.

The Mk1A's maiden flight was for a serial produced model meant for delivery to an operational squadron, not a prototype. So 2-3 jets were supposed to be delivered by March 2024 and another 10 Mk1As by March 2025. Of course, the delivery of the first batch has been delayed, not out of the ordinary, but there's enough infra to deliver all 18 by Mar 2025, including trainers. Bet that will be delayed by a few months too.
 
Nasik line is not operational. Currently jigs are getting installed. They are planning to roll out one airframe from the facility this FY.

That would mean at least the jigs necessary to produce 1-2 jets are ready. 'Cause it's quite impossible for a line to produce 1-2 jets within a few months.
 
Hopefully trials to start soon once mk1a deliveries start as well.

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Supply chain issues delay deliveries of LCA-Mk1A jets

Engine deliveries by General Electric (GE) have also been delayed due to supply chain issues


After some delay, the deliveries of the Light Combat Aircraft (LCA)-Mk1A by Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) to the Indian Air Force (IAF) are now expected to begin by end of July with officials stating that the delay is due to supply chain issues, including at HAL and General Electric (GE) in delivering the engines. One jet is now expected to be handed over to IAF by end of July, two officials independently confirmed.

In February 2021, the Defence Ministry had signed a ₹48,000 crore deal with HAL for 83 LCA-Mk1A jets, a more capable fighter jet than the current LCA-MK1 in service. As per contract, three LCA-MK1A planes were to be delivered to the IAF in February 2024 and 16 aircraft per year for subsequent five years. Like the present LCA, these fighter jets will also be powered by the GE F-404 engines.

There have been significant supply chain delays that have delayed the manufacture and deliveries, HAL and defence officials said while expressing confidence that the process would be speeded up once deliveries begin with plans lined up to scale production rate to 18 aircraft per year and eventually to 24 aircraft per year rolling out of three manufacturing lines.

To questions from The Hindu on delay in engine deliveries to HAL, a GE Aerospace spokesperson said: “The aerospace industry continues to experience unprecedented supply chain pressures. GE Aerospace is working with our partner HAL and suppliers to resolve constraints and deliver F404-IN20 engines.”

The LCA is going to constitute a bulk of the IAF in the next few decades. In addition to the 83 Mk1A aircraft on order, the Defence Ministry has given preliminary approval for procurement of another 97 LCA-Mk1A jets. This would eventually make 180 LCA-MK1 jets and 220 jets of the MK1 variant. The combined cost of the 180 Mk1As is an estimated of ₹1.15 lakh crore.

In addition, a larger and more capable LCA-Mk2 is under development that will be powered by the GE F-414 engines. A deal for HAL to license manufacture the engines in India is in advanced stages. As of now, the IAF has committed to procuring around 120 LCA-Mk2 jets.

The IAF has two MIG-21 squadrons, No. 3 squadron ‘Cobras’ and No. 23 squadron ‘Panthers’ remaining in service, one of which will be phased out this year and the other next year, and they will convert to LCA-Mk1A aircraft.

Timely induction of LCAs is crucial to keep the number of fighter squadrons from falling below 30.
 

Supply chain issues delay deliveries of LCA-Mk1A jets

Engine deliveries by General Electric (GE) have also been delayed due to supply chain issues


After some delay, the deliveries of the Light Combat Aircraft (LCA)-Mk1A by Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) to the Indian Air Force (IAF) are now expected to begin by end of July with officials stating that the delay is due to supply chain issues, including at HAL and General Electric (GE) in delivering the engines. One jet is now expected to be handed over to IAF by end of July, two officials independently confirmed.

In February 2021, the Defence Ministry had signed a ₹48,000 crore deal with HAL for 83 LCA-Mk1A jets, a more capable fighter jet than the current LCA-MK1 in service. As per contract, three LCA-MK1A planes were to be delivered to the IAF in February 2024 and 16 aircraft per year for subsequent five years. Like the present LCA, these fighter jets will also be powered by the GE F-404 engines.

There have been significant supply chain delays that have delayed the manufacture and deliveries, HAL and defence officials said while expressing confidence that the process would be speeded up once deliveries begin with plans lined up to scale production rate to 18 aircraft per year and eventually to 24 aircraft per year rolling out of three manufacturing lines.

To questions from The Hindu on delay in engine deliveries to HAL, a GE Aerospace spokesperson said: “The aerospace industry continues to experience unprecedented supply chain pressures. GE Aerospace is working with our partner HAL and suppliers to resolve constraints and deliver F404-IN20 engines.”

The LCA is going to constitute a bulk of the IAF in the next few decades. In addition to the 83 Mk1A aircraft on order, the Defence Ministry has given preliminary approval for procurement of another 97 LCA-Mk1A jets. This would eventually make 180 LCA-MK1 jets and 220 jets of the MK1 variant. The combined cost of the 180 Mk1As is an estimated of ₹1.15 lakh crore.

In addition, a larger and more capable LCA-Mk2 is under development that will be powered by the GE F-414 engines. A deal for HAL to license manufacture the engines in India is in advanced stages. As of now, the IAF has committed to procuring around 120 LCA-Mk2 jets.

The IAF has two MIG-21 squadrons, No. 3 squadron ‘Cobras’ and No. 23 squadron ‘Panthers’ remaining in service, one of which will be phased out this year and the other next year, and they will convert to LCA-Mk1A aircraft.

Timely induction of LCAs is crucial to keep the number of fighter squadrons from falling below 30.
Give up on MMRCA, just buy 36 Rafales. And dump every last penny into getting Kaveri working for mk1a.

Delay mk2 and amca further, first step is a billion dollars invested into development of a new engine.
 

Engine seizure led to IAF’s first LCA Tejas crash, say officials


The locally produced single-engine fighter jet crashed near Jaisalmer in Rajasthan on March 12, minutes after taking part in a tri-services exercise that sought to demonstrate the strides India has made towards self-reliance in the defence manufacturing sector. The pilot ejected safely.

“The engine seizure appears to have been caused by an oil pump malfunction,” said one of the officials cited above, asking not to be named. To be sure, the court of inquiry into the accident is yet to be completed.

IAF inducted its first Tejas aircraft in July 2016 and currently operates two Mk-1 squadrons. The aircraft that crashed was part of the 40 Mk-1 jets inducted by IAF in the initial operational clearance (IOC) and the more advanced final operational clearance (FOC) configurations -- the first variants of LCA.

IAF ordered the inspection of each plane after the March 12 crash.

“Safety checks on the entire LCA Mk-1 fleet were carried out. No safety issues were found with the fighter,” said the second official, who also asked not to be named. LCA Mk-1 is powered by US firm GE Aerospace’s F404 engine.

The engine failure ended the accident-free flying record of LCA Mk-1.

The reliability of modern jet engines is high and such failure is rare, said Air Marshal Anil Chopra (retd), former director general, Centre for Air Power Studies. “Safety is paramount for IAF, and it will get to the bottom of the matter,” said Chopra, who became the first air marshal in the world to eject from a fighter plane 12 years ago after the engine of his Mirage 2000 seized.

The doomed LCA Mk-1 had flown during the tri-services Bharat Shakti exercise at the Pokhran firing range near Jaisalmer along with another Tejas fighter before it went down.

The two fighters had carried out some manoeuvres and fired flares during the exercise that was witnessed by Prime Minister Narendra Modi, defence minister Rajnath Singh, chief of defence staff General Anil Chauhan, IAF chief Air Chief Marshal VR Chaudhari, then army chief General Manoj Pande, and then navy chief Admiral R Hari Kumar and others.

The integrated tri-services “live fire and manoeuvre” exercise, Bharat Shakti, displayed how the Indian military plans to leverage its indigenous capabilities for dominating the battlefield and crushing any threat to the country’s security.

In February, Tejas fighters took part in the exercise Vayu Shakti-24 at the Pokhran air-to-ground range and showcased their swing-role capability as they first engaged aerial targets, and later ground ones.

In November 2023, Modi flew in a LCA Mk-1 Tejas in Bengaluru and described the experience as “incredibly enriching” while also heaping praise on the country’s indigenous military capabilities. His sortie in the fighter jet was seen as a significant endorsement of the LCA programme, and turned the spotlight on the locally produced fighter jet that IAF is looking at inducting in big numbers and India is also seeking to export.

IAF ordered 83 Mk-1A fighters for ₹48,000 crore in February 2021, and plans to buy 97 more Mk-1As at an estimated cost of ₹67,000 crore.

LCA is set to emerge as the cornerstone of IAF’s combat power in the coming decade and beyond.

IAF, the world’s fourth largest air force, is expected to operate around 350 LCAs (Mk-1, Mk-1A and the future Mk-2), with a third of those already ordered, some inducted, and the rest figuring prominently on the air force’s modernisation road map and expected to be contracted in the coming years.

The newer variants, Mk-1A and Mk-2, will come with significantly improved features and technologies over the current Mk-1 aircraft.

IAF will deploy the Mk-1As at forward air bases in the western sector to bolster its combat readiness against Pakistan and fill voids left by the gradual phasing out of the MiG-21s.

The LCA project was sanctioned in 1983 as a replacement for MiG-21s. While the Mk-1 and Mk-1A variants will replace MiG-21 fighters, the Mk-2 aircraft is planned as a replacement for the MiG-29s, Mirage-2000s and Jaguar fighters that will start retiring in the coming decade.
 
Give up on MMRCA, just buy 36 Rafales. And dump every last penny into getting Kaveri working for mk1a.

Delay mk2 and amca further, first step is a billion dollars invested into development of a new engine.
Personally, I hate India's casual attitude towards safety. We have money for pensions but not for R&D... may be because engines dont vote... I will say, crank up taxes on tobacco, alcohol, imported cars, imported bikes by 50% and pump the money into R&D for next 5-10 years. 3-4 billion additional dollars spend per year on the aircraft engine projects should do it. Focus and complete.
 
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Personally, I hate India's casual attitude towards safety. We have money for pensions but not for R&D... may be because engines dont vote... I will say, crank up taxes on tobacco, alcohol, imported cars, imported bikes by 50% and pump the money into R&D for next 5-10 years. 3-4 billion additional dollars spend per year on the aircraft engine projects should do it. Focus and complete.
India's military service system requires most of its military spending to pay salaries and pensions, In particular, the large number of ordinary infantry serving in the Army for more than 20 years is a rare phenomenon in the world, The Indian Air Force has updated its equipment in recent years with only 36 Rafale fighters and about the same number of Tejas, It's about the size of Egypt or Saudi Arabia
 
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India's military service system requires most of its military spending to pay salaries and pensions, In particular, the large number of ordinary infantry serving in the Army for more than 20 years is a rare phenomenon in the world, The Indian Air Force has updated its equipment in recent years with only 36 Rafale fighters and about the same number of Tejas, It's about the size of Egypt or Saudi Arabia
We've just started our military modernisation. Watch out;)
 
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