LCA Tejas Mk1 & Mk1A - News and discussions

well - this is definitely big news. and I am certainly happy with this. I was complaining/noting that there was no noise from the LCA/LCH front for a while now - looks like our folks were busy at work. Hope they keep this momentum going on.
 
like how the handling was ? flawless or as usual as any refueling.. like that..

first video during dry trials and the current one. ..

Cant make out much from the internal camera feed since it was shot against a laptop displaying the original video. However the external feed displays excellent capability of the aircraft to maintain stability at low speed, but these videos are too short to figure how long it took for the pilots to line up with the feeder aircraft and maintain similar air speeds. They will possibly perform the tests in different altitudes for the remaining tests to verify performance at different flight levels. Great milestone for the Tejas project regardless.

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Great achievement for LCA ,Thanks to ADA and HAL .This was the main bottleneck for FOC hope AESA radar intigration will complete soon .Now LCA will come out from range limitation issue .big big success from operational point of view .Jai hind (y)
 
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cockpit display in mk1 is 4 * 6 inches MFD ?
in mk1A samtel 6 * 8 inches ?

any proposal to have large single window with touch screens in MK1A / MK2 ?

I guess in AMCA it should be there ..

what i wanted to know is if single big screen & touchscreen + 2 lateral joysticks are the future,

why dont we implement right in Mk1A, Wont it save some weight ? by removing all the switches ?
 
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cockpit display in mk1 is 4 * 6 inches MFD ?
in mk1A samtel 6 * 8 inches ?

any proposal to have large single window with touch screens in MK1A / MK2 ?

I guess in AMCA it should be there ..

what i wanted to know is if single big screen & touchscreen + 2 lateral joysticks are the future,

why dont we implement right in Mk1A, Wont it save some weight ? by removing all the switches ?

Anything can be done, but it will take time. If you are willing to wait, then a new cockpit can be designed, which will require new requirements, new funding plan, new development etc, which needs more time.
 
Looking At 12 Squadrons Of LCA Tejas Mk.2, IAF Chief Confirms
Shiv AroorSep 12 2018 10 49 am


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With a deal for 36 Rafales for her service at the heart of a political storm, the Indian Air Force chief was prepared for a barrage of questions that have lately seen his senior leadership at the frontlines of defending the deal. Today, he took it upon him. But amidst the storm over the high end fighters was a crucial confirmation that will have far reaching repercussions for India’s aviation complex.

We’re looking at 12 squadrons of the Light Combat Aircraft Mk.2, Indian Air Force chief Air Chief Marshal Birender Singh Dhanoa said today at an air power conference in India’s capital, confirming months of reports suggesting the IAF was looking for over 200 of the fighters. The chief stipulated, expectedly, that such an order would only come if the improved LCA Tejas — which will feature a more powerful engine, radar and electronic warfare and avionics — met the expanded expectations of the IAF.

While the LCA Tejas’s baseline version, the Mk.1, entered service with the IAF in 2016, with about half a squadron flying now with the ‘Flying Daggers’ unit and a total order of 40 jets, the IAF is also on the books for 83 of an improved version called the Mk.1A. Livefist has reported in detail the configuration of this improved jet. The Mk.2, which will be a significantly modified jet, where the current GE F404 engine is replaced with the more powerful F414 turbofan, in addition to a near full replacement of sensors and systems, is currently under development, with the prototyping phase to hit the ground early in the next decade.

Unlike the LCA Navy Mk.2 program that has the moment been de-linked from concrete requirements of the Indian Navy, in March this year, the IAF’s LCA Mk.2 program got a major push, with Indian defence minister Nirmala Sitharaman declaring the MoD was looking forward to the project delivering at the earliest.

The Mk.2 is basically aimed at defeating all of the issues encountered with the Mk.1 — it will be more powerful, more easily maintainable, more survivable, with longer legs, higher payload capacities and with more useful weapons delivery options. The Indian Air Force’s troubled run with the Tejas has turned over the last few years, with squadron service finally giving the IAF a sense of the aircraft’s qualities.

To supplement numbers, the Indian Air Force is also looking for over 100 Indian-built foreign fighters as part of the Make in India campaign. It is unlikely, however, that the process will move forward significantly before next year’s national election in the country.

Owing to the raging controversy over India’s Rafale deal, a conference by the Centre for Air Power Studies (CAPS) in Delhi this morning became a media scrum, with reporters descending on an event that usually passes without such overt attention. Expecting such a turn-out, the IAF chief was prepared to take on questions on the Rafale. But in his opening address, he dealt first with squadron numbers.

Pushing forward India’s war on two fronts theory — which envisions any full-scale war to be between both China and Pakistan, owing to their close alliance — Dhanoa said, “What we do not have are the numbers, against a sanctioned strength of 42 squadrons, we are down to 31. Even when we do have 42 squadrons, we will be below the combined numbers of two of our regional adversaries.”

Invoking the squadron strengths of China and Pakistan, Dhanoa said, “Pakistan has over 20 fighter squadrons, with upgraded F-16s, and inducting J-17 from China in large numbers. China has 1,700 fighters, including 800 fourth generation fighters. But we do not have the numbers, with fighter squadrons down to 31 from sanctioned 42.”

He went on to defend the Rafale deal too, saying, “By providing the Rafale and S-400, the government is strengthening the Indian Air Force to counter the short falls of our depleting numbers.” He added that ’emergency’ purchases of fighters were not without precedent in the country, citing earlier orders of a pair of squadrons each of the MiG-29 and Dassault’s own Mirage 2000.
 
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cockpit display in mk1 is 4 * 6 inches MFD ?
in mk1A samtel 6 * 8 inches ?

any proposal to have large single window with touch screens in MK1A / MK2 ?

I guess in AMCA it should be there ..

what i wanted to know is if single big screen & touchscreen + 2 lateral joysticks are the future,

why dont we implement right in Mk1A, Wont it save some weight ? by removing all the switches ?

Also the cost factor, we already have a concern with the Tejas Mk1A costing more than our heavy-weight fighter. I think there will be a serious review of desired vs essential features to tune down the per unit cost of Mk1A.

Is there any plan to equip Tejas mk2 with strategic weapon as it's to be Mirage replacement?

The role is expected to be taken over by Rafale. With an expected huge fleet of twin-engine aircraft with better combat endurance, it might not be necessary to develop single-engine Tejas Mk2 with EMP hardened avionics. In logical sense, AMCA will be developed as a capable strategic weapon delivery platform.

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Also the cost factor, we already have a concern with the Tejas Mk1A costing more than our heavy-weight fighter. I think there will be a serious review of desired vs essential features to tune down the per unit cost of Mk1A.

I think it's just a typical case of adding other stuff to the unit cost.

IOC Mk1's cost in 2014 was 162Cr.
HAL pegs price of Tejas fighter at Rs 162 crore

The article that claimed Mk1A is too expensive pegged the cost of FOC Mk1 at 363Cr. That jump from 162Cr for IOC to 363Cr for FOC is pretty ridiculous.
 
But MK2 and AMCA will be merged ?

Nope. mk2 will be a heavier and bigger lca type jet. Amca will be a conncerted effort in a medium sized 5th gen direction. People forget that India has a huge Air Force that’s already under numbers with rapidly dwindling fleet. Even with several hundred of both these inducted we’d cover barely 35% of fleet.


I think we can park a good 300 lca in the south and key point defense role in central and north. Pakistan doesn’t have any effective long range fighter or bomber fleet. The 1st 100 jf 17 doesn’t have mid air refuelin. Even if they had that capability they can’t deploy it effectively for our southern or central areas.