Line of Actual Control (LAC) : India & Tibet Border Updates

Arbit said:
Fat chance of that happening.
Anyway if war happens, be ready for a blitzkrieg on POK and on Paxtan army in see first shoot first mode. Once we are done with them in say - a week then its all hands towards eastern border. (Ideal scenario)
I believe Indian leadership will see all options exhausted including missile attack on coastal areas of china and a proper sea battle before considering use of nuclear button. Then also its a 'very' distant future.

Its gonna be conventional with full use of Navy. Time to test mettle of our leadership and our armed forces.
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Almost zero chance of any nuclear attack or dooms day. Leadership mettle was tested before in much more favourable conditions, they didn't gave the go ahead that time, with economy in free fall I don't think they will bother to fight unless China force us to fight by attacking even in that case it will be a small conflict before UN designated cease fire, anything can happen in that short conflict.

Pakistan on the other hand can do something stupid considering their suicidal tendency but I doubt they will be taken to task right now, maybe down the line, few months later when this front calm down.
 
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Arbit said:
Fat chance of that happening.
Anyway if war happens, be ready for a blitzkrieg on POK and on Paxtan army in see first shoot first mode. Once we are done with them in say - a week then its all hands towards eastern border. (Ideal scenario)
I believe Indian leadership will see all options exhausted including missile attack on coastal areas of china and a proper sea battle before considering use of nuclear button. Then also its a 'very' distant future.

Its gonna be conventional with full use of Navy. Time to test mettle of our leadership and our armed forces.
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Navy on chinese coast, do we have that much reach? If no war broke out we need to revise our weapon inventory, immediate inclusion of long range cruise missiles caliber/ toma hawak & nirbhay alon with long range bombers must happen. Few mig31s on eastern & western side will check paf, plaaf slow moving targets like awacs, supply crafts, special mission aircrafts.
 
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Saaho said:
Most of the world gets its wafers fabricated in Taiwan. Plus for critical space/defence purposes, India has a fabrication facility run by CEERI. Defence silicon is not such a high volume product. Plus there are PLDs which work equally well.
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HSMC is manufacturing wafers for foreign firms but designing is different class of work. For AESA , analog to digital convertors, other powerful circuits for navigation and imagery
Saaho said:
And how is that bad?
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It's not bad, but it's not giving India edge over China in cyber space either.
lcafanboy said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1265198251742912513

I suppose, first shot fired by Chinese. Flooding of Brahmaputra river......😡😠

We need to go for preemptive strikes...😠
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It's alright, due to cyclone the rains have poured early and it's causing rise in water. It happens every season from june to august.
 
STEPHEN COHEN said:
The Present Situation and How it evolves will decide this guy Pravin Sawhney' s future

For a long time now he has been crying out loud about the Chinese Threat and lack of Indian Capabilities

If China blinks , he will loose all credibility
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Only if there is bloodshed and China retreats.. will he lose credibility
 
Pakistan being such a deranged land ,I am 100% sure if shooting match starts between India and China they will be itching to have a go,as what I have perceived that they still have the regret why they didn't enter with China in 1962.

All said and done , Western command is most battle hardened and can take care of them easily ,I know for a surity that nuclear weapons are not going to be used in the next 5 century and Pakistan certainly doesn't have the guts because after that entire pak leadership will face Nuremberg trial like event and may be chased like a dog all over the world.only those nation who are superpower in true sense will use nuke as they can manage the fallout.



But what I think to put pak in it's place ,as it will certainly try to do something in Kashmir ,we have to blockade their navy. it will drill senses into them right away .if pak moves towards Kashmir we should move towards Karachi .
The Navy should be tasked to keep in check the Pakistan leaving China to IAF and army,any raid on Kashmir should be reciprocated with naval raid on karachi
. instead of indulging navy in Corona related stuff we should start parking them right next to Karachi in international water ,it will be a signal to keep away.
 
shaxm said:
Dear Shaktiman,Let me explain you common sense wisdom before ancient wisdom. Indian susulims work against India. Indian Government work for Indian susulims. Indian susulims work for Pakistan susulims. Pakistan susulims work on orders of China. So by simple translation logic , Indian government, Indian and pakistan susulims and China all working against India. Then who is going to defend India?
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Are you 3 years old?
 
BlackOpsIndia said:
Great job, 10 more years of negotiations and explorations, who knows we may have a deal on hands for 4 Brahmos to Brunei at 50% subsidy.
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And how many deal China has for JF-17? Pakistan and Mayanmar or some African shithole nation. If this is the standard for a world superpower, we are doing great! BTW, I am still hearing "Pakistan is going to buy J-10" since past 10 years with no purchase.
 
Hydra said:
May be or may not be hyped. Then i want to ask which russian system we using is proved in battlefield?
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Su-30, R77, R73, Mig-29, Mig-21, Mirage-2000, MICA are all battle proven. Lemme know how many planes have been shot down by PL-12 or PL-15.
 
Deathstar said:
Guys recognising Taiwan isnt worth it. Thats why even US doesn't do it.
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If it is done, it should be done in a group. Like entire NATO doing it then you can throw in you cards as well. Why? Because it adds real weight to the game.
 
Saaho said:
Su-30, R77, R73, Mig-29, Mig-21, Mirage-2000 are all battle proven. Lemme know how many planes have been shot down by PL-12 or PL-15.
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Su30 didn't see the battle so far, i cannot take su30 actions in syria as battle proven.those missiles when.it had a kill? Mig21 is joke in 2020.mirage is a french stuff not a russian .
Pl12, 15 didn't shoot down any sofar, but who said it is not a potent? Do you have any substantial evidences for that?
 
Hydra said:
Pl12, 15 didn't shoot down any sofar, but who said it is not a potent? Do you have any substantial evidences for that?
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Burden of proof lies on manufacturer. China has not given any proof that their planes actually can take out any hostiles. Plus their ranges look all so funny. PL-15 is supposed to have a "range" of 400KM. Yeah! And I have a bridge to sell to you. There is no know real data of PL-10 or 15. Things like No Escape Zone. Just a range number.
 
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Saaho said:
Burden of proof lies on manufacturer. China has not given any proof that their planes actually can take out any hostiles. Plus their ranges look all so funny. PL-15 is supposed to have a "range" of 400KM. Yeah! And I have a bridge to sell to you.
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Many western experts have doubt on DRDO BMD program, by that logic our bmd program must be a dud since it is not battle proven.
Lastly not least, a huge controversy existing on 1998 hydrogen bomb test too? Do you think that we don't have hydrogen bomb.
 
Hydra said:
Su30 didn't see the battle so far
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Two points :

Has Chinese planes even saw that much of action?

Plus, Su-30 is actually an evolution of Su-27.
en.wikipedia.org

Sukhoi Su-27 - Wikipedia

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Indeed Russian platforms have seen fair bit of action.

Has ANY chinese line of planes used by china seen ANY action? If yes, what was the performance?
Hydra said:
Many western experts have doubt on DRDO BMD program, by that logic our bmd program must be a dud since it is not battle proven.
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Indeed! Ever wondered why Chinese don't take it seriously? Actually everone is skeptical of all BMDs for this reason only.
 
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Hydra said:
Lastly not least, a huge controversy existing on 1998 hydrogen bomb test too? Do you think that we don't have hydrogen bomb.
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No, we don't have a working hydrogen bomb. What we have are boosted weapons. Can do decent damage and allows us MIRV for 3 weapons on a missile. Not world beating but still pretty decent for deterrance.
 
Saaho said:
Two points :

Has Chinese planes even saw that much of action?

Plus, Su-30 is actually an evolution of Su-27.
en.wikipedia.org

Sukhoi Su-27 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

Indeed Russian platforms have seen fair bit of action.

Has ANY chinese line of planes used by china seen ANY action? If yes, what was the performance?

Indeed! Ever wondered why Chinese don't take it seriously?
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Not a single su30s were challed because it was operated by russians.And howmany su27s has saw the battle till date?
And AFAIK jf17 was involved in feb27, they all left the scene without a scratch.
And i dont believe that if a product is useless if it didn't tested in a battle. Your denial mentality will not come and fight in real war.
 
Saaho said:
No, we don't have a working hydrogen bomb. What we have are boosted weapons. Can do decent damage and allows us MIRV for 3 weapons on a missile. Not world beating but still pretty decent for deterrance.
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Go and search the events, we have tesed fission, boosted & a hydrogen bomb
 
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