Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning and F-22 'Raptor' : News & Discussion

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You're just pissed off that your BS claims are being debunked. You want this place to be like airdefense where your cute 4th gen plane isn't allowed to be critique.
You are confusing with F16.net
I just love how stealth/RCS is an F-35 problem if going external but never for the french plane which isn't even a LO fighter to begin with. You start hanging tanks, targeting pod, missiles, pylons and bombs somehow the cute 4th gen french plane is more survivable than the F-35 carrying external load. The mind of a french french plane fanboy is delusional.

The frenchmen delusional mind believes his plane in this configuration...
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Is more survivable than this fighter in this configuration...
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Herciv you've lost your mind. Although you're not as big a troll as halloweene but you're getting there.

Stick to airdefense where your BS is taken as truth.
Take this pic instead :
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Someone stole the TALIOS from that Rafale. Only a fanboy could think that is low RCS and think it has no added drag. What you are seeing there, a 1500lb weight bomb load, 2 missile and 3 tanks. The F-35 carries internally and is stealth RCS and has no added drag.
 
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Someone stole the TALIOS from that Rafale. Only a fanboy could think that is low RCS and think it has no added drag. What you are seeing there, a 1500lb weight bomb load, 2 missile and 3 tanks. The F-35 carries internally and is stealth RCS and has no added drag.
No 2 f-35 carry that internally, dont forget the missiles, 4 of them.
 
Which loyal wingman do you like best?
australia .......................................... .. .......... .... US
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UK............................................ .......... France
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Which loyal wingman do you like best?
australia .......................................... .. .......... .... US
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UK............................................ .......... France
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I generally avoid trolling and talking to pets, but have a question, too:
Which SSN do you prefer, the French one:

Or, for the next 20years, the RAN one:
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You can disagree with others, but basic manners is not too much to ask, is it?

Don't be a douche here , no one will take you seriously.

I love doing this to the clown of this forum who can't comprehend how the F-35 can deploy E-virus...



The clowns reaction after reading this.
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Lol. Oh you can't ignore when your BS is called out. You can't help it.
 
Someone stole the TALIOS from that Rafale. Only a fanboy could think that is low RCS and think it has no added drag. What you are seeing there, a 1500lb weight bomb load, 2 missile and 3 tanks. The F-35 carries internally and is stealth RCS and has no added drag.
The more a bird is loaded, the more the drag is. It's evident : the bird has to improve AoA to increase lift. More AoA = more drag.
 
Which loyal wingman do you like best?
australia .......................................... .. .......... .... US
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UK............................................ .......... France
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In the UK case, they learned a lot of Lockeed Martin : it's only a powerpoint....

Australia..... they only pay for. Don't try to explain they are able to study and produce even a gen 3 fighter (it will be a nice mess with SSN....somewhere in 2045....)
 
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Australia is set to receive its first nuclear submarine at least five years ahead of schedule after America agreed to fast-track the project. Defence Minister Peter Dutton has revealed he expects the first vessel to be completed in the early 2030s – well ahead of the 2040 estimate.

Australia's nuclear submarines ahead of schedule​

 
Let him expect ... Aren't we on F35/22 topic? I'm a bit lost
You need to ask the guy who brought up the sub a few posts higher. I think the early 30's is because both the Astute and Virginia are existing subs. The French sub was canceled even before the detailed drawings were done.
 
Australia is set to receive its first nuclear submarine at least five years ahead of schedule after America agreed to fast-track the project. Defence Minister Peter Dutton has revealed he expects the first vessel to be completed in the early 2030s – well ahead of the 2040 estimate.

Australia's nuclear submarines ahead of schedule

Maybe with a fully US made sub, with full US crew, and full US maintainers.
Or with old Los Angeles 2nd hand subs.
If not, NO WAY.
 

1. We might never get these submarines​

Credit to The Australian’s foreign affairs columnist Greg Sheridan for being the first to say this in a devastatingly good column. I was worried from the outset that Australia was taking on a huge task, but it never occurred to me to make what now seems like an obvious point, which is that this project is so wildly ambitious that it may be cancelled long before the first steel is cut.
 

1. We might never get these submarines​

Credit to The Australian’s foreign affairs columnist Greg Sheridan for being the first to say this in a devastatingly good column. I was worried from the outset that Australia was taking on a huge task, but it never occurred to me to make what now seems like an obvious point, which is that this project is so wildly ambitious that it may be cancelled long before the first steel is cut.

He's basically saying he's scared of fighting China. But he doesn't realise that China's gonna be the aggressor and Australia won't have a choice in the matter. The last time Australia fought in an "us or them" war was in the 40s, so it's no wonder people are getting soft today.
 
You mean it lacks DEW capacity now ? Hell We were under the impression the Lightnings already had it. Mighty confession this is , coming from you .
It depends what you classify as directed energy weapons. If you are talking laser, that is a while off. EMP and the directed AESA radar is now.