Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning and F-22 'Raptor' : News & Discussion

No secret.
No link, just an insider information.
Nothing very surprising isn't it?
At this stage it's your fantasy and your (if he's real) friend wouldn't have any clue,
It is possible there is a changing login somewhere, but it isn't ODIN, If i was going to have one, it would be on the F-35 core software, to even turn the plane on, But keep looking, It may be next to the kill switch :eek:
no one is saying there is a 48hr password lock,
 
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A frind of mine, whose son works in the Dassault purchase service explain me some weeks ago that Dassault knows that F-35 has to be connected to ODIN every 24 or 48 hours (I don't remember if he said 24 or 48. sorry). If not it can't fly.
Basically like an Xbox one online connectivity feature. That's what I thought. The MADL and sensor fusion goes for shit without ODIN most likely.
I got to see the real deal in Aero India and the Amreekis weren't comfortable getting us close to the aircraft.
I wonder what else were they hiding.
 
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The F-35 does not require a daily,, user-entered "password" from the U.S. to start. While it requires secure authentication and login, and relies on U.S.-controlled, cloud-based logistics and mission data (ALIS/ODIN) to operate effectively, it does not have a, remote "kill switch" for allies.
Key details regarding F-35 security and operation:
  • Authentication: Pilots must log in to the aircraft's systems, but this is a standard, secure, and locally managed process.
  • Logistics Reliance: The aircraft depends on ALIS (Autonomic Logistics Information System), which is being upgraded to ODIN. While this connects to U.S. servers, it is designed for maintenance, not to restrict daily usage.
  • "Kill Switch" Misconception: Officials and experts have dismissed claims of a, remote, "kill switch" that would, allow the U.S. to disable, jets in flight.
  • Operational Control: International operators have control over their aircraft, though the U.S. restricts access to the, core, software code.
 
Back to school professor, after 2019 was when the US imposed the stricter end use and there are no reports of the F-16 attacking India with f-16 in 2025, The US would have to over-ride its end use agreement for any given situation
Back to school, Optimist ? don't worry extra classes are always open for eternal optimist who ignores reality.
As for missing reports , sounds like you are majoring in selective ignorance". many said same thing like you in 2019 too until IAF showed them wreckage of AIM-120.

And yeah F-16s were just extra credit for " how to fund terrorist States " class....ofcourse sponsored by innocent USA.
 
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The F-35 does not require a daily,, user-entered "password" from the U.S. to start. While it requires secure authentication and login, and relies on U.S.-controlled, cloud-based logistics and mission data (ALIS/ODIN) to operate effectively, it does not have a, remote "kill switch" for allies.
Key details regarding F-35 security and operation:
  • Authentication: Pilots must log in to the aircraft's systems, but this is a standard, secure, and locally managed process.
  • Logistics Reliance: The aircraft depends on ALIS (Autonomic Logistics Information System), which is being upgraded to ODIN. While this connects to U.S. servers, it is designed for maintenance, not to restrict daily usage.
  • "Kill Switch" Misconception: Officials and experts have dismissed claims of a, remote, "kill switch" that would, allow the U.S. to disable, jets in flight.
  • Operational Control: International operators have control over their aircraft, though the U.S. restricts access to the, core, software code.
Yeah, and "what if" if the US decided to prohibit internet access (ALIS//ODIN) to a specific fleet of F-35s? (err.404)
That's what i call a "kill switch".
 
On this subject, here's a video (18 minutes) in English, published by a former Rafale mission planner from the French Naval Aviation. He knows what he's talking about.


Below the video, he lists many of his sources.

For example, just for you @Innominate (i know you're still lurking here ;) ):


and @Optimist:
08:31: In 2020, Reuters also revealed that Washington required exported F-35s not to match the performance of those operated by the United States. This confirms a fear expressed as early as 2006 in Australia regarding the stealth performance of the F-35's communication system, which was downgraded from "very low observable" for the American F-35 to "only low observable" for the Australians.

Cheers.
 
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08:31: In 2020, Reuters also revealed that Washington required exported F-35s not to match the performance of those operated by the United States. This confirms a fear expressed as early as 2006 in Australia regarding the stealth performance of the F-35's communication system, which was downgraded from "very low observable" for the American F-35 to "only low observable" for the Australians.

Cheers.
LOL, The stories people make up, It was corrected at the time and all f-35 have the same RCS
When France's FCAS 6th gen looks to fail I guess you guys need to discount the F-35 more
 
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At this stage it's your fantasy and your (if he's real) friend wouldn't have any clue,
It is possible there is a changing login somewhere, but it isn't ODIN, If i was going to have one, it would be on the F-35 core software, to even turn the plane on, But keep looking, It may be next to the kill switch :eek:
no one is saying there is a 48hr password lock,
Sure, continue to be blind with US.
They already f*cked you deep with the submarines. Next is F-35.
 
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Sure, continue to be blind with US.
They already f*cked you deep with the submarines. Next is F-35.
WE like to live on the wild side, Our largest export customer is also our biggest threat,
What do you mean with the subs? Virginias have been approved and SSN AUKUS is in design
If you look at a map, Truth be told, the US needs Australia, It's lucky Trump thinks we are Austria in EU, or he'd try and buy us
 
WE like to live on the wild side, Our largest export customer is also our biggest threat,
What do you mean with the subs? Virginias have been approved and SSN AUKUS is in design
If you look at a map, Truth be told, the US needs Australia, It's lucky Trump thinks we are Austria in EU, or he'd try and buy us
You found the 80 billions 12 french subs costly, and now are happy with 8 subs, late, probably never built in Austalia for 250 billions at ease in your a**. I call that masochism.

Aukus in design ? Please sent me some news in the appropriate thread.
 
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You found the 80 billions 12 french subs costly, and now are happy with 8 subs, late, probably never built in Austalia for 250 billions at ease in your a**. I call that masochism.

Aukus in design ? Please sent me some news in the appropriate thread.
Just a bit of reality, The Virginia will be delivered 2032, before the first French sub would have been delivered mid 2030's

We publicly said that we withdrew, because diesel was unsuitable, Going forward against China's rise and tech with space-based radar, that can see diesel subs snort,
As well as all the issues with Naval group, about cost and workshare for the hull and propulsion, The computer systems and weapon systems tec was always going to be US

Even secondhand Virginias are expensive, as are the SSN AUKUS, We are also paying to join the nuclear club, Australia thinks it's worth the investment

The total cost is out to 2050 and includes everything, including the university training and wages of a new group of workers in Australia, Wasn't the Naval Group cost just the hull and propulsion?
 
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Just a bit of reality, The Virginia will be delivered 2032, before the first French sub would have been delivered mid 2030's

We publicly said that we withdrew, because diesel was unsuitable, Going forward against China's rise and tech with space-based radar, that can see diesel subs snort,
As well as all the issues with Naval group, about cost and workshare for the hull and propulsion, The computer systems and weapon systems tec was always going to be US

Even secondhand Virginias are expensive, as are the SSN AUKUS, We are also paying to join the nuclear club, Australia thinks it's worth the investment

The total cost is out to 2050 and includes everything, including the university training and wages of a new group of workers in Australia, Wasn't the Naval Group cost just the hull and propulsion?
2032 ? I hope for you China not try to invade Taiwan before, because in this case you may say good bye to 2032.
2032 ? It is as serious as the F-35 standart fine tuning in time and cost ? as serious as the FFG and Virginia schedule ?

80 billions for the 12 Short fins Barracuda was the whole cost (last eval was 56 € billions). The part of Naval Group was far less : 8 billions.
 
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February 02, 2026

F-35: US Air Force Adopts Israeli Modifications​


The US Air Force will adopt many of the modifications made by the Israeli Air Force to its F-35s. These modifications enabled the attack on Iranian nuclear facilities in June 2025.

The unique modifications to the Israeli F-35I "Adir" were crucial in making the long-range, heavily defended attacks on Iranian nuclear sites such as Natanz, Fordow, and Isfahan in June 2025 feasible and survivable. Israel implemented extended-range solutions that allowed the F-35I to conduct attacks at a distance of approximately 1,500 km from Israel, while simultaneously reducing its reliance on its small, vulnerable tanker fleet.

These unique modifications to the Israeli F-35I "Adir" were crucial in making the long-range, heavily defended attacks on Iranian nuclear sites such as Natanz, Fordow, and Isfahan in June 2025 feasible and survivable. Israeli sources were only willing to say that the F-35s operated by the Israeli Air Force (IAF) carry more fuel "in special tanks." This applies to the non-stealth phase of flight. Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI) has developed special fuel tanks for various types of combat aircraft.

In recent tests, the special F-35 test aircraft was equipped with a highly accurate 1,000 kg bomb manufactured in Israel. This bomb was specifically designed for the F-35's weapons bay. It is described as having "super-penetration power." Further details were not disclosed, but one of the smart bombs from the Israeli company Rafael is the Spice 2000, an add-on kit for, among others, 900 kg warheads such as the MK-84, BLU-109, and RAP-2000. It can be assumed that the new bomb is based on the experience gained with this bomb. In recent tests, this unique bomb, developed for the IAF's F-35, achieved a CEP of 3 meters.

The F-35 test aircraft operated by the IAF's Main Test Department has also been equipped with systems that allow it to fly and launch weapons systems in areas saturated with electronic warfare.



F-35: IAI's Modern Anti-Jammer System Integrated

The GPS jamming incidents of recent years, perpetrated by Russian forces in Syria, have accelerated the development of systems designed to make Israeli military systems immune to such jamming. Some are already operational, while others are still being tested. Analyzing the Russian GPS jamming systems used in Syria, Israel has taken measures to be better prepared for more aggressive GPS jamming. The proliferation of Russian GPS jamming systems in the Middle East has accelerated the process of equipping Israeli Air Force aircraft with anti-jamming systems.

In 2021, the IAF announced the integration of an advanced anti-jam system developed by Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI) into the modern platforms of its various squadrons. The system, the ADA Anti-Jam GPS System, is designed to protect GPS/GNSS navigation from interference.

According to IAI, the system has been integrated into advanced IAF platforms, including F-16 fighter jets and various types of UAVs. The ADA system has proven its operational capability and is used by a number of international customers on various air, land, and sea platforms.

According to Israeli sources, the F-35I's advanced electronic warfare (EW) systems and countermeasures integration systems, developed by Israel, were specifically designed to neutralize or weaken radar systems and surface-to-air missiles during the June 2025 operation. This allowed the F-35I to operate in heavily defended airspace beyond the capabilities of the basic F-35A version.

During the attacks, the F-35Is conducted intensive SEAD (Search and Attack Defence) missions, disabling key air defense radars and S-300 components to open corridors for large-scale follow-up attacks by F-15 and F-16 aircraft. The Israeli F-35Is are equipped with domestically developed precision-guided munitions and targeting software, enhancing accuracy against hardened and underground installations such as Natanz and Khondab.

Israel has transformed the F-35I into a central sensor and command-and-control (C4I) hub: Thanks to enhanced data acquisition, processing, and advanced data links, each aircraft could aggregate information and share targets in real time with other combat aircraft, ISR resources, and ground networks.

During Operation Rising Lion, this meant that F-35I aircraft could stealthily map Iranian air defense systems and targets, then relay precise coordinates and threat data to non-stealth aircraft, significantly increasing the effectiveness of the approximately 200-aircraft strike force.

Israel's ability to control the F-35I's software and integrate its own application stacks and electronic warfare libraries enabled the IAF to rapidly adapt threat databases and tactics specifically for Iranian radar systems and SAMs without having to wait for baseline updates from the United States. /END

@Innominate
 
How sad it is that you can't recognise an Israeli fluff piece, The headline doesn't match the story about how great the F-35i is, Where is the US saying they are going to get Israeli stuff?

I'm pretty sure the US has 2,000lb penetrating bombs, The f-35 was always going to have drop tanks, that's why there are 2x 5,000lb wet-point stations

This is just wrong, Israel has its mission library reprograming lab in the US, All F-35 have the ability to register and share new threats in real time, Israel does have its own plug and play ew apps, which the US reviews and checks the software
"Thanks to Israel's ability to control the F-35I's software and integrate its own "app stacks" and electronic warfare libraries, the IAF was able to quickly adapt threat databases and tactics specifically for Iranian radar systems and SAMs without having to wait for basic updates from the US."