NAL Saras : Updates & Discussions
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DRDO should stop building toys. Seeing Russia NATO clash, it is very clear that at least 10 times more innovation , technology and research and economy and resources are needed for India to actually bear the backlash of sanctions, in future. Other wise India is a dead meat. And this is not a joke.
HANSA-NG, India’s first indigenous flying trainer, completes sea-level trials
The aircraft was flown to Puducherry covering a distance of 140 nautical miles in 1.5 hours at a cruising speed of 155 km/hr on February 19, NAL said in a release on Saturday.
India’s first indigenous flying trainer 'HANSA-NG' designed and developed by CSIR-National Aerospace Laboratories, has successfully completed the sea-level trials at Puducherry from February 19 to March 5.
The aircraft was flown to Puducherry covering a distance of 140 nautical miles in 1.5 hours at a cruising speed of 155 km/hr on February 19, NAL said in a release on Saturday.
The objective of these trials were to evaluate handling qualities, climb/cruise performance, balked landing, structural performance including positive and negative G, power plant and other systems performance at sea level, it said.
All the objectives of the sea-level trials were met and the aircraft was ferried back to Bengaluru on March 5, after completing 18 hours flying in Puducherry, it said.
The aircraft was piloted by Wing Commander K V Prakash and Wing Commander Dilip Reddy of Aircraft & Systems Testing Establishment (ASTE), and the flight was monitored by NAL designers and Wg. Cdr. Reeju Chakraborty as Flight Test Director from telemetry.
According to NAL, HANSA-NG is one of the most advanced flying trainers powered by Rotax Digital Control Engine with unique features like Just-In-Time Prepreg (JIPREG) Composite Lightweight Airframe, glass cockpit, bubble canopy with wide panoramic view, electrically operated flaps, etc.
It is designed to meet the Indian flying club needs and it is an ideal aircraft for Commercial Pilot Licensing (CPL) due to its low cost and low fuel consumption, it said, adding that NAL has already received more than 80 LoIs (Letter of Intents) from various flying clubs.
NAL Director Jitendra J Jadhav said a total of 37 flights and 50 hours of flying have been completed and few more flights will be conducted before getting Type Certification by DGCA.
Type Certification is likely to be completed by April and thereafter the manufacturing will be initiated with public/private industry that will enhance the aerospace ecosystem under 'Atmanirbhar Bharat', he said.
HANSA-NG, India’s first indigenous flying trainer, completes sea-level trials
The aircraft was flown to Puducherry covering a distance of 140 nautical miles in 1.5 hours at a cruising speed of 155 km/hr on February 19, NAL said in a release on Saturday.
First Flight 2024-25 & production by 2026-27. Let's hope at least they don't slip up here technologically or the GoI doesn't trip them in sanctioning timely funds . Projected demand as of now is ~ 120 nos in both civil & military variants.
Merge NAL and HAL. With combined resources and experience of Do228, working on Saras Mk2 would be easier.
India’s Regional Transport Aircraft will require funding of about $2 billion: CSIR-National Aerospace Laboratories, Director, Dr. Abhay Pashilkar
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Govt be like.
India’s Regional Transport Aircraft will require funding of about $2 billion: CSIR-National Aerospace Laboratories, Director, Dr. Abhay Pashilkar - ET Infra
The government so far has given in-principle approval for the full-scale engineering development of the RTA project and funding will be provided to a Special Purpose Vehicle.
Govt be like.
India’s Regional Transport Aircraft will require funding of about $2 billion: CSIR-National Aerospace Laboratories, Director, Dr. Abhay Pashilkar
India’s Regional Transport Aircraft will require funding of about $2 billion: CSIR-National Aerospace Laboratories, Director, Dr. Abhay Pashilkar - ET Infra
The government so far has given in-principle approval for the full-scale engineering development of the RTA project and funding will be provided to a Special Purpose Vehicle.
Govt be like.
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Let's assume 3 billion USD towards development over a span of 10 yrs. Entirely doable if we go in for a JV . On our own probably 4-5 billion USD over 2 decades. While this is doable too , it's inadvisable given the gestation period & our requirement for it is immediate .
India's own airliners are ordering Twin Otters over Do228s.
It's time we merge NAL with HAL. And the new entity tries to complete NAL Saras Mk2 with DRDO first using HAL's experience with Do228.
Start small.
First a 19 seater which is bought over western options within 5-6 years. Then a ~50 seater aircraft untill the end of 2030.
Once that level is crossed, venture into sub 100 category. And then 150+ category.
Get the very basic thing done first. This way we won't be hostage to any outside power.
Will end up as a useless program unless there is significant private sector involvement and risk sharing.India’s Regional Transport Aircraft will require funding of about $2 billion: CSIR-National Aerospace Laboratories, Director, Dr. Abhay Pashilkar
India’s Regional Transport Aircraft will require funding of about $2 billion: CSIR-National Aerospace Laboratories, Director, Dr. Abhay Pashilkar - ET Infra
The government so far has given in-principle approval for the full-scale engineering development of the RTA project and funding will be provided to a Special Purpose Vehicle.
Govt be like.
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Spend that money on engine development.
That's the fault of the MoD &:HAL. The latter for not marketing it effectively & the former for neither prodding them nor persuading the GoI to increase import tariffs on like aircrafts to give home built ones an advantage.
Either that or better still, carve out a dedicated team from HAL, integrate them with NAL & incorporate it as a company that specialises in building civil commercial aircraft.
We're past both these stages now vide Hansa & Saras.
I've a hunch the present tender for medium lift transporters by IAF portends to something bigger. Can't put my finger on it but I think something's brewing between HAL & EMBRAER.
This amounts to nothing. An MoU isn't worth the paper it's typed on. As such Antonov is in the doghouse. Neither do they have the money nor the technology. They're surviving on past glory viz old clients like Russia India China etc courtesy the legacy aircrafts these countries own which go to Antonov to service by default.
They're not sought after by anybody in the aviation industry. If a potentially good aircraft OEM like EMBRAER is deep in financial trouble what hope does Antonov have of survival. See this MoU as a gesture of goodwill on the part of HAL.
Current status and details from NAL (timestamp)
First Flight: 2027 + 4 years of fight testing
First Flight: 2027 + 4 years of fight testing
If it came earlier could have been a good option for NCC, where we are flying the virus sw80 in large numbers.