Operation Sindoor: India Strikes Terroist Camps Inside Pakitsan
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Don't worry about it right now. Even if Pak fully wins the narrative (which they won't), it's not the right time for us to get into a large scale conflict.
@randomradio already said it in post #2161. Think of the long term game. We need a 4/5x larger economy than our $4T and a much better R&D and industrial base. Without that, we're done for in the long run. That joker, Trump was saying "let them fight" at the start. He wants this war to go on indefinitely. US and Europe want us to throw away all the hard work we've put in so far. They absolutely do not want an Eastern power after the rise China. They see it as their power eroding further.
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RUMINT for now.
RUMINT also says we shot down an AWACS along with a bunch of fighters.
Russia's defense modernization budget is 2-3 times ours, and this is not counting the money earmarked for fighting in Ukraine. Once the war ends, they will be able to match the combined military capital expenditure of the US and Europe. That potential is why Ukraine's been pushed into a war with Russia.
Yes, I know. Don't underestimate Pakistani "5th gen warfare" mindset or Western disdain for India. Look at CNN 180s.
He should have done operation swift retreat to save himself.... Look like he wasn't fast enough sed
Let us be honest. Instead of Tandav, what happened was Mujra. That's all my reading is.
Ceasefire demands from other powers come from a position of strength. If we don't have sufficient leverage, then we will have to back down.
That's why China kept its head down after losing the war in Vietnam. They started acting up only after they started getting big, when the SCS scandal blew up. We will get to that point in the 2030s. Xi single-handedly destroyed 30 years of effort put forth by the Democrats and Europeans in East Asia in a matter of years.
There's a need to make our constitution pro-India quickly. That requires a supermajority and I hope BJP is working towards that for 2029.
Lmao Trump doesn't care about some backwater Pakistanis. The call was not by Trump or Vance it was by the deep state and Pentagon telling us to pipe down or their plans to destabilize Iran will get screwed up. That's it. Pakistan gets to live because it went back to its old customer after riding Chinese microdick for so long.
Since when did we become a US client state that we need to pay heed to their interests more than ours?
It was the datalinking of the aewcs that was the issue. Our meteors never came into play or were used. I don't even think IAF went into bvr combat this time. The PAF just spammed pl-15's in hopes of hitting something and got two-three fighters against a horde of 70 planes they were facing. I don't even think we tried to fight a bvr fight because we were more focused on defending the airspace than actually taking out pakistani fighters. The rafales weren't used with meteors for some reason instead they were used for A2G missions while the Air war was being handled by the su-30's.
We need r-37m and astra mk2 asap.
India is climbing up from using generic tech to exotic tech. For all these years both worked with generic tech so there was a bit of balance. But pretty soon India will introduce exotic tech like the US, Russia, and China, that will leave Pak behind. And exotic tech is not available for sale.
Take something as simple as the 40N6 missile. Pakistan cannot buy anything that exceeds MTCR, so they cannot buy the 40N6. China can still sell something similar secretly, but we will reach a point where SAMs will come in 500, 1000, and 1500 km ranges. PAF will have to develop these SAMs.
Who's gonna sell them SSNs, space shuttles, advanced semiconductors, quantum computers and so on?
We literally struck multiple airbases of a nuclear power and caught them with their pants down. Their lumber 1 integrated Hypersonic capable air defence couldn't even intercept cruise missiles. Even i feel disturbed at the loss of our jets but in the bigger picture we absolutely pummeled them. And we didn't just cause a few craters, we did much more as will be hopefully revealed by satellite pics in the coming days. If their Saab awacs getting damaged by hanger collapse is true then it's another humiliation for lumber 1 army.
Modi actually rhought his relationship with Trump would help him that's why he accepted the ceasefire conditions. This was done on emotions and "trust" not on any actual strategic value. We haven't even asked for the return of the bsf soldier and the terrorists who did Pahalgam. We just accepted the ceasefire. Like what??
The J-35 won't be an issue. Stealth detection technologies have changed a lot.
China may hand them "hand me down" Type 91 or 92 SSN but they're so hilariously ancient and loud that it would essentially be staying above the seabed for however long the IN wants it to lol. As for other tech there is a real possibility of Chinese spillover to Pakistan.
Pak military focusses on symbolic "victories" to rally the populace and shape perception. Indian military focusses on results and keeps quiet. We struck their major airbases and Pakistan's response is "80% Brahmos stock destroyed in one strike". Like Indian forces are stupid enough to store cutting edge missiles in one place and not have them geographically dispersed.If the west and China think we're some weak country which even a third rate failed state like Pakistan can push around then we have already won half the battle