Operation Sindoor: India Strikes Terroist Camps Inside Pakitsan

Lolwa said:
Tbh we were not mentally prepared to take over PoK or Pakistan. We were way too successful. What we need is make a proper plan of conquering Pakistan and create more strike corps and Rapids. We will have to heavily invest in mobile AD like qrsam and vshorad and CUAS. Something in the class of tor, buk and tungushka.
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It's well within our abilities. Even through all our bungled deals, we have maintained sufficient capabilities for pretty much any scenario against Pakistan, including breaking up the country. But what really works for us is they don't have the ability to keep up. They will run out of fuel and ammo in just a few days.
 
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vstol Jockey said:
When will you agree that Su-30MKI is superior. We have had this discussion between us from 2015 onwards and I told you that we need more MKIs and not rafale. Just wait what happens after this war. We may even cancel the order for Rafale-M. mark my post. Everything same, and Su-30MKI outperforms Rafale. TBT, Su-30MKIs had to support Rafale on 7th Morning. It was the largest airwar ever after WW2. Over 230 ac from IAF involved as strike element and defenders for returning strikes and over 100 ac from PAF trying to stop IAF strike. Tell me one air battle ever which involved so many aircraft. This figure is not about fighters only, It includes support elemenst as well. Rafale has a big problem with Hammer. They need to increase its range. As for its active stealth capability, it is third rate. Kissi din aaram se btaunga ki kya hua tha. Rafale was taken out of active actions. I knw you will not believe it. Su-30MKI did the job.
Rafale was reduced to the job of just Air defence and LCA can do it better than Rafale. Proven useless in strike role.
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Politely disagree sir regarding GOI cancelling Rafale M deal. I still think we need more Rafales for both our IAF & IN primarily for the novel capabilities it brings with it.

Rest, IAF pilots have always maintained that Su-30MKI>>Rafale in air combat. So no surprises there.
 
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vstol Jockey said:
When will you agree that Su-30MKI is superior. We have had this discussion between us from 2015 onwards and I told you that we need more MKIs and not rafale. Just wait what happens after this war. We may even cancel the order for Rafale-M. mark my post. Everything same, and Su-30MKI outperforms Rafale. TBT, Su-30MKIs had to support Rafale on 7th Morning. It was the largest airwar ever after WW2. Over 230 ac from IAF involved as strike element and defenders for returning strikes and over 100 ac from PAF trying to stop IAF strike. Tell me one air battle ever which involved so many aircraft. This figure is not about fighters only, It includes support elemenst as well. Rafale has a big problem with Hammer. They need to increase its range. As for its active stealth capability, it is third rate. Kissi din aaram se btaunga ki kya hua tha. Rafale was taken out of active actions. I knw you will not believe it. Su-30MKI did the job.
Rafale was reduced to the job of just Air defence and LCA can do it better than Rafale. Proven useless in strike role.
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Then it will be interesting to see what we decide. If it's indeed as you say, then the IAF will have to rethink the objectives of MRFA.

Yeah, I had pointed out Hammer's short range as a weakness a decade ago. America's new powered JDAMs can do 500 km.
 
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randomradio said:
Then it will be interesting to see what we decide. If it's indeed as you say, then the IAF will have to rethink the objectives of MRFA.

Yeah, I had pointed out Hammer's short range as a weakness a decade ago. America's new powered JDAMs can do 500 km.
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Rafale has no capability of SEAD/DEAD. It illuminates on radar very prominantly with all its weapons. Its approach is known and can be very easily targeted. While same is true about SU-30MKI but its 2 crew set up and highly agile vectors give it a decisive edge in any air engagement. I can say with 100% truth that after 7th Morning not even a single Rafale was used in strike role. Only and Only SU-30MKIs and Jags were used. Jaguar is an ac from late 1960s and perfomed better than Rafale due to its capability to fly really low and pop up to fire a weapon. While SU-30MKI flew high, Jags flew really low and used terrain hugging to achieve a higher radar stealth than even Rafale.
 
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HVTs taken out
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safriz said:
Remember?
Pakistan built the entire Babus series of missiles by dissenting and copying a downed Tomahawk?
Same here .
Nice transfer of technology.
Thanks India.
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graape🍇🐃, now stop polluting this thread
Saaho said:
Huh? Just because a monkey got a razor, does not make him an iron smith. Pakistan had entire AIM120Cs for dacades and yet their MIC can not make one BVR.
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could not design 70cc moped engine but, absorbed tot from tomahawk, chongs might be crying see this confidence
 
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safriz said:
MBDA won't be happy with India 🤣View attachment 43161
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we pay them cash for this bro. They will definitely be happy coz now we have to replace this stuff.

safriz said:
Remember?
Pakistan built the entire Babus series of missiles by dissenting and copying a downed Tomahawk?
Same here .
Nice transfer of technology.
Thanks India.
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No it did not. The chinese gave you their designs and then a componenet supply as CDK that you can assemble it and declare yourself a great technology power.
 
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randomradio said:
Then it will be interesting to see what we decide. If it's indeed as you say, then the IAF will have to rethink the objectives of MRFA.

Yeah, I had pointed out Hammer's short range as a weakness a decade ago. America's new powered JDAMs can do 500 km.
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We made Su-30MKI as potent as it's now because of constant addition of software, hardware and Indian weapons. Rafale's biggest weakness at the moment is its weapons package. Once we integrate our full weapons in it, then it'll be one fearful bird.

But unfortunately Dassault & MBDA don't want that and are asking full source code of our weapons which may compromise national security.

It may sound astounding to the noobs, but our domestic radar tech, ESM tech, ECM tech and even missile tech is now better than what is there in Rafale. That's why IN was looking to put Uttam into Rafale M.
 
screambowl said:
I am more worried about , now they know what military capabilities India has. China will bring change into it's systems. I hope India renews everything which remains exposed. After this I am sure capital for R&D will flow in.

Hats off to our anti air defence capabilities! These need to be strengthened now two level up.
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Exactly!! Chinese are know to learn from their mistake and correct it accordingly , the reason being they are preparing for a war with the mighty US not India ...We should make fun of the Chinese version exported to Pakistan but we should keep in mind that their own version used by their PLA might be doing far better , i am sure Indian military planners are aware of this and wont be underestimating the Chinese equipment .
 
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