Operation Sindoor: India Strikes Terroist Camps Inside Pakitsan

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Deputy Chief of Army Staff (Capability Development & Sustenance), Lt Gen Rahul R Singh talked about India's Op Sindoor and said, 'We had one border and two adversaries, actually three. Pakistan was in the front. China was providing all possible support. 81% of the military hardware with Pakistan is Chinese. China is able to test its weapons against other weapons, so its like a live lab available to them.

I posted this on the other forum about nested radar system as a challenge.
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In the context of Chinese and Turkish help (in realtime) to Pakistan, I wonder if there are any doctrinal changes being made by Indian Armed Forces. A large scale conflict with Pakistan (another one) is inevitable and is just a matter of time. I wonder what should India’s mode of operation be against China and Turkey when they side with Pak during the conflict — would their military intelligence units be considered a fair game and a legitimate target? If this continues unabated, China and Turkey will embolden further and will try get more involved. So, how does India force China and Turkey stay out of the conflict!
 
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In the context of Chinese and Turkish help (in realtime) to Pakistan, I wonder if there are any doctrinal changes being made by Indian Armed Forces. A large scale conflict with Pakistan (another one) is inevitable and is just a matter of time. I wonder what should India’s mode of operation be against China and Turkey when they side with Pak during the conflict — would their military intelligence units be considered a fair game and a legitimate target? If this continues unabated, China and Turkey will embolden further and will try get more involved. So, how does India force China and Turkey stay out of the conflict!
Next time we will directly target them inside pakistan.
 
In the context of Chinese and Turkish help (in realtime) to Pakistan, I wonder if there are any doctrinal changes being made by Indian Armed Forces. A large scale conflict with Pakistan (another one) is inevitable and is just a matter of time. I wonder what should India’s mode of operation be against China and Turkey when they side with Pak during the conflict — would their military intelligence units be considered a fair game and a legitimate target? If this continues unabated, China and Turkey will embolden further and will try get more involved. So, how does India force China and Turkey stay out of the conflict!
Turkey I'm not worried about at all. They're far away and inferior to us in most capabilities. China is the real threat. We need to improve our anti satellite EW and jamming capabilities, as well as space to space and ground to space lasers to blind them. If we do this, it disrupts Chinese support to Pakistan and it also sends a message to China that we have the capability to fight them in space as well. But unfortunately, we are 5 years away from having such capabilities afaik.
 
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In the context of Chinese and Turkish help (in realtime) to Pakistan, I wonder if there are any doctrinal changes being made by Indian Armed Forces. A large scale conflict with Pakistan (another one) is inevitable and is just a matter of time. I wonder what should India’s mode of operation be against China and Turkey when they side with Pak during the conflict — would their military intelligence units be considered a fair game and a legitimate target? If this continues unabated, China and Turkey will embolden further and will try get more involved. So, how does India force China and Turkey stay out of the conflict!

We can't do anything beyond using non-kinetic effects. But we will pay back in kind when China acts up elsewhere.

Plus we get the same sort of help from Israel, although it's leagues inferior to Chinese capabilities.
 
In the context of Chinese and Turkish help (in realtime) to Pakistan, I wonder if there are any doctrinal changes being made by Indian Armed Forces. A large scale conflict with Pakistan (another one) is inevitable and is just a matter of time. I wonder what should India’s mode of operation be against China and Turkey when they side with Pak during the conflict — would their military intelligence units be considered a fair game and a legitimate target? If this continues unabated, China and Turkey will embolden further and will try get more involved. So, how does India force China and Turkey stay out of the conflict!
They will never be out of the conflict, what We did on noor khan have to do the exact same thing in other places, taking out the command nodes in the initial strikes, even if they still get information, without a command centre Thier reactions Will be slow, also Chinese & turkish intelligence inside Pakistan Will be a legitimate targets,
 
What about Project KALI?
Not in Operation.
It's basically an experimental electron accelerator, can be used to fry electronics like an HPM.
While it's quite hyped up as a "secret weapon" by masses not knowledgeable about the topic.
But it's range is not known, most likely it's still few hundred meters at most.

And forget satellites, humanity's tech is just not there, to fry electronics of a object as far away as satellite.

Though we can try to blind it, with laser.
 
Not in Operation.
It's basically an electron accelerator, can be used to fry electronics like an HPM.
But it's range is not known, most likely it's still few hundred meters at most.

And forget satellites, humanity's tech is just not there, to fry electronics of a object as far away as satellite.

Though we can try to blind it, with laser.
Yeah just realised the high energy participles won't be able to pass the atmosphere because of ionospehere. For it to work we need a city scaled version of it. I don't think that is possible anytime soon.
 
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It possible to make a miniaturised satelite based EW weapon like that though. But I think international laws prohabit weaponisation of satelites.
 
Yeah just realised the high energy participles won't be able to pass the atmosphere because of ionospehere.
High energy particles can't even cross few km's with humanity's current tech.
The energy density and ability to maintain a narrow focused beam for long distances is not within current technological bounds.

Lasers just made a comeback because new targets that are small, slowing moving, and can be intercepted at point defense distances emerged, basically drones.
 
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It possible to make a miniaturised satelite based EW weapon like that though. But I think international laws prohabit weaponisation of satelites.
Range would be problem again.
Distance between satellites is between 100s of km to 1000s of km.

Unless they are micro communication sats doing formation flying.

Energy would be problem too, solar panels ain't gonna be anywhere near to cut it.

The only way to make a ew satellite effective would be to, put a nuke in it, use it as an EMP weapon.
Which can't be/shouldn't be done for obvious reasons, but during cold war both soviets and americans played with the concept.


Another method could be, to send your own satellite into orbit, with extra propellant, use it to deorbit another sat in similar orbit.
Possible but quite complex, plus expensive.

Best and cheapest way for hard kill right now, is ASAT missiles.
Which are also relatively expensive.
 
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Official confirmation from Defense Minister Lecornu:

--> "La loi de programmation militaire actuelle doit être protégée" affirme le ministre des Armées Sébastien Lecornu à Toulon

You mention the Rafale. In its recent confrontation with Pakistan, India recently lost one or more aircraft. What are the real figures? What impact has this had on the aircraft's export sales?

Only one plane was shot down, and the pilot was unharmed. This had no impact on the aircraft's sales. What's interesting, though, is to see the information war that has sprung up around the loss of the plane. To be able to sell fighter jets is to be in the big league. And in the big league, the level of competition is brutal. The Rafale, which is currently very successful in the export market, and will continue to be so, has been targeted because it disturbs. Afterwards, I notice that when a plane is shot down in Ukraine, whether it's of American or Soviet origin, no one thinks to write articles questioning the quality of this plane. That says a lot.
 
Official confirmation from Defense Minister Lecornu:

--> "La loi de programmation militaire actuelle doit être protégée" affirme le ministre des Armées Sébastien Lecornu à Toulon

You mention the Rafale. In its recent confrontation with Pakistan, India recently lost one or more aircraft. What are the real figures? What impact has this had on the aircraft's export sales?

Only one plane was shot down, and the pilot was unharmed. This had no impact on the aircraft's sales. What's interesting, though, is to see the information war that has sprung up around the loss of the plane. To be able to sell fighter jets is to be in the big league. And in the big league, the level of competition is brutal. The Rafale, which is currently very successful in the export market, and will continue to be so, has been targeted because it disturbs. Afterwards, I notice that when a plane is shot down in Ukraine, whether it's of American or Soviet origin, no one thinks to write articles questioning the quality of this plane. That says a lot.
There you have it. Thanks for sharing. At least the whole 7-0..8-0 or whatever fiasco involving DA will stop now.
Most if not all sensible defence journalist had already sensed something amiss within days of the reports coming out. Hope this will put to rest the whole intl. sensationalisation.
 
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