Operation Sindoor: India Strikes Terroist Camps Inside Pakitsan

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Fewer than 50 weapons can bring adversary to talking table: VCAS on Operation Sindoor

New Delhi, Jul 25 (PTI) IAF’s vice chief Air Marshal Narmadeshwar Tiwari on Friday said India’s Operation Sindoor has demonstrated how fewer than 50 weapons can bring an adversary to the talking table, and termed it an example that should be studied. He said this during an interactive session of...
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No seriously.
Can we count how many actually hit the target?
I guess 6 airbases and radar stations were targeted by Indian missiles. Hardly one or two landed on actual targets.
That's may be 10 to 12 successful hits out of the 50 fired.
Abysmal I must say.
 
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safriz said:
Indian cruise missile did have some success.
Out of 50 , as he claims.
May be less than 10 actual found the target.

Rather it was loss of 4 rafales, 1 SU 30 , 1 MIG 29 , 1 Mirage 2000. And a high altitude UAV.
That's like 10 % of Rafale fleet shot downed in one night .

Yes I know Inertial navigation. Used it myself. Sperry mechanical gyroscopes.

But I also know Indian arrogance and megalomania.
They didn't expect Pakistan to have any jamming capabilities.
They didn't configure the missiles to use INS , just satellite signals, which got jammed.
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God Pakistanis are dumb and obnoxious at the same time very hard to argue with them without loosing any brain cells. So let me debunk this slowly. Out of 50 Air Launched Munitions OSINT has only accounted for 2-3 probable interceptions 1 Scalp and 1-2 alleged Brahmos but all have been hard kills which is something all OSINT analysts have agreed upon. So if Pakistan has so good Soft Kill capabilities why don't you present the Intact Wreckages or Wreckages of diverted munitions to the entire damn world? Maybe less than 10 dumbass 10 munitions I can easily count in the Hits on Bahawalpur and Muridke let alone the Hits on your damn airbases so again if your interceptions were that good show us the wreckage bruv i asked you evidence about Brahmos soft kill you couldn't show shit so please bruv pipe down you guys haven't Intercepted Jackshit 😂 😂.
Ok so on 7th May you claimed 3 Rafales now it's 4 😂 😂 😂. Man Pakistan lives in next level delusion every independent OSINT and media organisation has verified the loss 3 Indian Assets with only one Rafale at Bhatinda so either show evidence of 4 Rafales pr accept that you are lying through your teeth. Are you *censored*in kidding me Brahmos wasn't configured to INU since when ??? Man you really are stupid 😂 😂. If you have so efficient soft kill abilities and our Brahmos isn't configured for INU why couldn't you intercept it during the accidental firing incident? Your soft kill abilities are as shit as your Hard Kill abilities can't even save your CUs of HQ-9 at Lahore from a *censored*in Harpy Drone and here you are yapping about Superior Pakistani Jamming Capabilities 😂 😂 😆. Please engage in evidence based discussion cuz we have no interest in engaging your La La Land.
safriz said:
No seriously.
Can we count how many actually hit the target?
I guess 6 airbases and radar stations were targeted by Indian missiles. Hardly one or two landed on actual targets.
That's may be 10 to 12 successful hits out of the 50 fired.
Abysmal I must say.
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Yeah look at the damn Sat Images and your Security Personnel loosing their life and then we can see how many munitions hit their targets. Gosh Pakistanis are next level Delusional. Please can you post the thread of 40 Intercepted Indian Munitions based on your assessment?
 
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God Pakistanis are dumb and obnoxious at the same time very hard to argue with them without loosing any brain cells. So let me debunk this slowly. Out of 50 Air Launched Munitions OSINT has only accounted for 2-3 probable interceptions 1 Scalp and 1-2 alleged Brahmos but all have been hard kills which is something all OSINT analysts have agreed upon. So if Pakistan has so good Soft Kill capabilities why don't you present the Intact Wreckages or Wreckages of diverted munitions to the entire damn world? Maybe less than 10 dumbass 10 munitions I can easily count in the Hits on Bahawalpur and Muridke let alone the Hits on your damn airbases so again if your interceptions were that good show us the wreckage bruv i asked you evidence about Brahmos soft kill you couldn't show shit so please bruv pipe down you guys haven't Intercepted Jackshit 😂 😂.
Ok so on 7th May you claimed 3 Rafales now it's 4 😂 😂 😂. Man Pakistan lives in next level delusion every independent OSINT and media organisation has verified the loss 3 Indian Assets with only one Rafale at Bhatinda so either show evidence of 4 Rafales pr accept that you are lying through your teeth. Are you *censored*in kidding me Brahmos wasn't configured to INU since when ??? Man you really are stupid 😂 😂. If you have so efficient soft kill abilities and our Brahmos isn't configured for INU why couldn't you intercept it during the accidental firing incident? Your soft kill abilities are as shit as your Hard Kill abilities can't even save your CUs of HQ-9 at Lahore from a *censored*in Harpy Drone and here you are yapping about Superior Pakistani Jamming Capabilities 😂 😂 😆. Please engage in evidence based discussion cuz we have no interest in engaging your La La Land.

Yeah look at the damn Sat Images and your Security Personnel loosing their life and then we can see how many munitions hit their targets. Gosh Pakistanis are next level Delusional. Please can you post the thread of 40 Intercepted Indian Munitions based on your assessment?
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Stop indulging him.
Let him be. Last time they asked for proof of destruction.. this time we gave that.

This time they are asking us to have better lethality against them... Well, believe in our forces.
 
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safriz said:
No seriously.
Can we count how many actually hit the target?
I guess 6 airbases and radar stations were targeted by Indian missiles. Hardly one or two landed on actual targets.
That's may be 10 to 12 successful hits out of the 50 fired.
Abysmal I must say.
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That's like saying out of scores of PL15 launched only 3-4 hit their targets....abysmal I must say 🤣. India claims barely 15 Brahmos launched and similar Scalpe, but Pakistanis love pulling numbers from their *censored*, one day it's 100 brahmos launched another day its 50.
 
safriz said:
No seriously.
Can we count how many actually hit the target?
I guess 6 airbases and radar stations were targeted by Indian missiles. Hardly one or two landed on actual targets.
That's may be 10 to 12 successful hits out of the 50 fired.
Abysmal I must say.
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Lets face it, on 6th May ALL of the targets were destroyed. Mujjid towers fell down. Majjid were given mascetomy. Results were all there for everyone to see.

Now on 10th, across the entire line and breadth of Pakistan every darned airforce base were hit and hit hard. Turkish mobile command centre was completely destroyed, one AWACS with its crew completely destroyed, damage to airstrips is not yet fixed.

Not to mention, India can not really launch 50 missiles as India has only 50 Su30 MKIs with capability to launch precision Brahmos missiles. None of them were intercepted otherwise there will be tonne of debree falling in populated parts of Pakistan and there will be a parade of 1000s of videos. Meaning almost ALL the missiles found their mark.

Not to mention even HQ-9B command post was destroyed with its staffed dying with a simple drone.

And during this not a single Indian Naval platform was engaged. Even land based Brahmos was not utilized.

You want the REAL final proof? Pakistan would have never agreed for a ceasefire without India agreeing to reverting back its position on IWT. But for some reason Pakistan did it every before Operation Chaddi Banyan could score a single hit. Sure as hell Pakistan's military leadership was shaking in fear like 2019.
 
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Saaho said:
Lets face it, on 6th May ALL of the targets were destroyed. Mujjid towers fell down. Majjid were given mascetomy. Results were all there for everyone to see.

Now on 10th, across the entire line and breadth of Pakistan every darned airforce base were hit and hit hard. Turkish mobile command centre was completely destroyed, one AWACS with its crew completely destroyed, damage to airstrips is not yet fixed.

Not to mention, India can not really launch 50 missiles as India has only 50 Su30 MKIs with capability to launch precision Brahmos missiles. None of them were intercepted otherwise there will be tonne of debree falling in populated parts of Pakistan and there will be a parade of 1000s of videos. Meaning almost ALL the missiles found their mark.

Not to mention even HQ-9B command post was destroyed with its staffed dying with a simple drone.

And during this not a single Indian Naval platform was engaged. Even land based Brahmos was not utilized.

You want the REAL final proof? Pakistan would have never agreed for a ceasefire without India agreeing to reverting back its position on IWT. But for some reason Pakistan did it every before Operation Chaddi Banyan could score a single hit. Sure as hell Pakistan's military leadership was shaking in fear like 2019.
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He can visit and cry near PAF Squadron Leader Chusmans grave but ik he wont do that. I saw so many Pakistanis boast of their air forces splendid performance while saying our missile strikes were "flukes". They were this confident before 71 also until they got a spanking which the entire world was a witness to.
 
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Debate on op sindoor today. First session adjourned cause of ruckus over god knows what.

Let's see what details emerge. P.Chidambaram couldn't keep it in his stomach anymore and finally blurted the usual expected stuff from Congress

The heck is wrong with opposition? They were demand the debate but why are they not letting debate happen now!!
Haven't they Chalked out their strategy yet, so they are stalling?
 
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RationalGuy said:
Our boys need drones to kill these cockroatches. Especially in tough terrain such as Kashmir, drones would be gamechanger.
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Hills, Forests, Natural Vegetation along with a terrain that is less conducive to drone operations make it a challenge. A special CT drone capable enough would be able to tackle is though. There are very few off the shelf offensive drones that are readily available that can meet the requirements. Of course, if a MoD babu were to take this up then something can be done by the internal drone industry. Till then generic drones it is.
 
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RationalGuy said:
Our boys need drones to kill these cockroatches. Especially in tough terrain such as Kashmir, drones would be gamechanger.
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That would require specialised drones. Not what we have currently.
Lots of hinderance in jungles. And you don't wanna use anything too costly either.
So, it will take some time but AI+ Robotics might be able to solve this.

And need lots of it for continuous surveillance with maybe specialised drones in mix with guns/grenade launcher.
 
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Shan said:
Hills, Forests, Natural Vegetation along with a terrain that is less conducive to drone operations make it a challenge. A special CT drone capable enough would be able to tackle is though. There are very few off the shelf offensive drones that are readily available that can meet the requirements. Of course, if a MoD babu were to take this up then something can be done by the internal drone industry. Till then generic drones it is.
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Newspace showed advanced drones navigating though thick forests. With motion sensors, thermal tech, its become much easier to hunt.
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That would require specialised drones. Not what we have currently.
Lots of hinderance in jungles. And you don't wanna use anything too costly either.
So, it will take some time but AI+ Robotics might be able to solve this
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More investment needed. But we need swarm drones navigating though forests.
 
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Newspace showed advanced drones navigating though thick forests. With motion sensors, thermal tech, its become much easier to hunt.

More investment needed. But we need swarm drones navigating though forests.
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Yeah, but with current tech developed by drdo.. anything cheap will be useless for more than short ISR and anything potent will be costly enough to become unsustainable.

Unless, you install swarm drone as a logic in the Integrated Grid along LoC. Even for that, you need a very smart AI brain. Possible in future if babus think of it.
 
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