Pahalgam terror attack: 26 killed

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I talked about the ultimate level of escalation matrix. Anything below that suits India much more than Pakistan. If they want to keep it non nuke, they have no chance whatsoever. Only thing is that the war may stretch to over a month.


Pls do not use Ukraine as template for Indo-Pak war. Russians were pure stupid, they misread the whole situation plus it was NATO which was fighting Russia using Ukraine territory.
Not out of bounds to suggest China won't do the same to us. As far as supply lines go they can route it thru Iran. Will Iran irk India by colluding ?

China has much more leverage today over Iran than before. Look at the amount of trade they conduct & the oil China imports.

Shanghai to Bandar Abbas is a 2 week sail . Most likely escorted by PLAAN.

Difficult scenario certainly but entirely plausible.

My larger point being as long as China exists don't go in for anything major as in a land assault . Destroy their war waging capabilities instead viz PN & PAF
 
The new so called Emirate of Punjab or whatever will not survive either as it will be constantly attacked by Baloch and Afghans who will pick up their girls as Londies like one of their senior news anchor was talking about making Indian Actresses as his Londies. The survival of whatever is left of so called Pakistan will depend solely on them reverting back to Sanatan and asking for help from Bharat.
Pak panjabi girls are indeed beautiful.
 
@Mods and other senior members of this site may recall that I had told them that this site is read by our security forces. many things I wrote here came true after cpl of months. Even the @Mods agreed. I told after Galwan to reassign one of the strike Corps to China border as we had created IBGs for Pakistan Front. It happened. I also stated that we must move and occupy better higher grounds in Laddakh and we did that as well. read out the date of my posts and how the IA did exactly that a cpl of months later.
Now I am suggesting here that our PM must include the words of Late FM Sam Manekshaw which he used to ask for surrender of East Pakistan forces in his address to nation to start the war with Pakistan or post starting the war. Our Intel tells us that ordinary Pak solider is really upset for two reasons, first the Generals who have forced this war have sent their own families to safety while the families of the Soldiers is still within Pakistan. They are not willing to die for such Generals.
Secondly the Pak Army is deeply divided between PTI supporters and those who want to keep Pakistan together. Once Modis gives, "Modi Ki Guarantee that all those who surrender and refuse to fight Indian Forces will be treated with respect and dignity, You will see Pak army surrendering in toto all across the borders or we may see Pak army fighting eachother. Yaad rakhna mere ye shabd.
Pak panjabi girls are indeed beautiful.
The man who wanted Indian girls as his Londi will find his wife and daughter being taken a londi by Pashtoons. They used to do that even during the time when Shakuni was their Yuvraj.
 
@Mods and other senior members of this site may recall that I had told them that this site is read by our security forces. many things I wrote here came true after cpl of months. Even the @Mods agreed. I told after Galwan to reassign one of the strike Corps to China border as we had created IBGs for Pakistan Front. It happened. I also stated that we must move and occupy better higher grounds in Laddakh and we did that as well. read out the date of my posts and how the IA did exactly that a cpl of months later.
Now I am suggesting here that our PM must include the words of Late FM Sam Manekshaw which he used to ask for surrender of East Pakistan forces in his address to nation to start the war with Pakistan or post starting the war. Our Intel tells us that ordinary Pak solider is really upset for two reasons, first the Generals who have forced this war have sent their own families to safety while the families of the Soldiers is still within Pakistan. They are not willing to die for such Generals.
Secondly the Pak Army is deeply divided between PTI supporters and those who want to keep Pakistan together. Once Modis gives, "Modi Ki Guarantee that all those who surrender and refuse to fight Indian Forces will be treated with respect and dignity, You will see Pak army surrendering in toto all across the borders or we may see Pak army fighting eachother. Yaad rakhna mere ye shabd.

The man who wanted Indian girls as his Londi will find his wife and daughter being taken a londi by Pashtoons. They used to do that even during the time when Shakuni was their Yuvraj.
Why would let them take those people, when......
 
We had Abhi nandan. You had none . That's what happened.
And you panicked and shot down own helicopter.
The biggest Indian casualty in that skirmish was from India themselves.
That's what happened
We'll trade a Mig-21 with an F-16 every single time, Janab! Plus, thanks to Balakot strike we became the first nation to go deep inside another nuclear armed nation and blew the Jihadis. Gist? We called your nuclear bluff and created the conditions that you soon will be subject to😉
 
Both US and China need you in different ways. China needs access through Gilgit, Pakjab, and Balochistan, so they don't care about PoJK and Sindh. America needs Sindh, Balochistan, and KPK, so they don't care about Pakjab or PoJK.

Why does USA need sindh & kpk? Are they serious about balochistan?
 
Don't worry sweetie , we've taken a pledge to uproot Paxtan one way or another & help the global arms industry.

Say , did you finally invest in shares of all those US military contractors I asked you to during the war in Ukraine ?

You did , didn't you ! Now go ahead & invest in shares of military contractors from Zion .

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Oh hunny "you people" contribute more than enough to their wealth.

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Don't ever forget who your nations military depends for their security. :ROFLMAO:
 
with that all the loans they have taken from the world need not be repaid as the loans were taken by Pakistan which will no longer exist. So it will bring a landfall profit to Pak Punjab.
Lmao no. The Russians re-paid all the Soviet era debt, West Germany paid most of the reparations till re-unification and none of Sri Lanka's loans disappeared after it defaulted a few years ago (they were merely restructured so that the creditors would break even, bare minimum, at best they were given additional monetary aid but debts weren't forgiven AFAIK). The point is, debt doesn't magically disappear. Pakjabis will be forced to repay the loans or much of the assets belonging to the erstwhile Pakistan (as per this scenario) within international banking institutions will be seized since if Pakistani loans are to be written off because Pakistan no longer exists, it means that the successor states aren't entitled to it's assets in foreign countries either.
 
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Our fighters violated Pakistan.... But you people weren't able to do a shit about it even though PAF is in Highest Level of Alert and IAF still not opening up all the capabilities it has. That should be enough to give Shivers to any knowledgeable & sensible man (of course madrasa chaps can still dream about Army of Jinns coming to Pakistan's rescue to defeat India)....😂😎

People wrongly assume Rafale has no stealth.
 
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Why does USA need sindh & kpk? Are they serious about balochistan?

Sindh has the port facilities they need, Karachi, along with railway and highway connectivity. Balochistan gives them access to Southeastern Iran. KPK gives them access to Northern Afghanistan and a route to Central Asia. They prefer Gilgit under Pakistani hands for access to Xinjiang, but in this era they are fine with India taking over.

It's largely about Iran and China for them.
 
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The population difference is much greater than the TFR difference. Pakjabi dominance is assured well into the century.
Not exactly, tfr difference matters and the population of punjab is not homogenous, you have balochs and pashtuns in south punjab region, similarly kpk has hindko speakers in hazerawal region of it, actually north kpk has non pashtuns, who are pashtunized with time like swatis, kasbagars, gujars etc
 
Ignorants, Iran and China are not allies, just friends with benefits who will abandon each other when things go south. China's not coming to Iran's rescue when Trump makes his move.

It's in our interest to dismantle Pakistan irrespective of its population growth. If the country is dismantled and nukes are removed, we will always get someone crazy enough to Gaza it out of existence someday. The problem is even if a single nuke gets through, it will cause more damage than what even a broken up Pakistan can do in a 1000 years fighting a low intensity fight while living a Taliban lifestyle. Advanced surveillance, resources scarcity, water wars, and infighting are plenty to keep them in check.
 
Not exactly, tfr difference matters and the population of punjab is not homogenous, you have balochs and pashtuns in south punjab region, similarly kpk has hindko speakers in hazerawal region of it, actually north kpk has non pashtuns, who are pashtunized with time like swatis, kasbagars, gujars etc

There's still a difference of 3 times between the ethnicities (Pashtuns at 15% vs Pakjabis at 45%, CIA).

But Pakistan is actively trying to reduce TFR in KPK while trying to maintain higher TFR in Pakjab. Their goal is 3.3 for 2025 and 2.8 by 2030, whereas Pakjab currently is at 3.5.
 
It's in our interest to dismantle Pakistan irrespective of its population growth. If the country is dismantled and nukes are removed, we will always get someone crazy enough to Gaza it out of existence someday. The problem is even if a single nuke gets through, it will cause more damage than what even a broken up Pakistan can do in a 1000 years fighting a low intensity fight while living a Taliban lifestyle. Advanced surveillance, resources scarcity, water wars, and infighting are plenty to keep them in check.
A lot of people in this thread are calling for the disintegration of the Pakistani state. Is it in India's interest to dismantle Pakistan if they can't guarantee the safety of the nukes? I feel like that is a tall order that everyone is glossing over or outright dismissing.

Right now, there is a huge divide between the military establishment and the average Pakistani. The military government is only interested in looting the country. They are stoking religious fervor to keep the masses distracted. I don't believe they genuinely wish for war because it would threaten their golden hen. I don't think they buy the kool-aid of a great ghazwa or whatever either.

For better or worse, the Pakistani military establishment has incentive to not use nukes and keep Pakistan backwards and destitute. India will have to just accept the minor low-level terrorism and diplomatic needling until it has such overwhelming economic/technologic strength to deal with Pakistan in 1 go.

The alternative is a 250M strong fanatic rabble with nukes sitting on your border. Better to deal with the devil you know, right?
 
Oh hunny "you people" contribute more than enough to their wealth.

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Aww , sweetie's back to tagging me pretending to be a real bad a s s.

Let's see now . All those weapons & platforms you see in that info meme sweetie have already / are seeing indigenous analogues in operation / under development out here , including some stuff we've reverse engineered .

Yeah yeah , I know , it's terribly disappointing especially if it's goyim gypping yahuda aka Patel of Motel fame jui ing out da juice. Can't help it sweetie. It is what it is.

In other words the only nation on whom we have a crippling dependency as of the present & foreseeable future is Russia not Israel . Sorry to break your heart .
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Since you've shared a picture of what appears to be Indian Jews let me share with you certain facts of life which had your folks done so , would've spared you schooling on the net by rank strangers.

Practically all the Indian Jews who made A'liyah did so for economic reasons . Not a single one did so otherwise especially for Anti Semitic treatment by the locals like it was for Jews from all over the world.

Do you know why ? For no Jew was discriminated against in any form whatsoever , ever , out here . Now this is a statement not many people or countries across the world can make. And I'm talking all 194 countries in the comity of modern nation states as listed by the UN.

You'd still come across statements by the first generation Indian Jews who went there in the 1950s & must be well in their 80s or 90s now testifying to this for back in the days the Israeli state was established we got our independence too & were dirt poor .

There was a severe lack of opportunities given the state of the economy then. Life was harder than the erections you used to have before you transitioned.

On the contrary what happened was a section of those Jews faced discrimination from the Ashkenazis out there - the kind you probably descend from , for being " not Jewish enough "apart from racial discrimination which the dominant Ashkenazis subjected all the other Jewish groups to , be they Sephardic or Mizrahi or other groups who didn't fit in like some Indian Jews.

Result - a few Indian Jews thought it's better to go back to India & live life in dignity so what if there was economic hardship than be subject to racism & discrimination in Israel. So while the overwhelming majority persevered a few actually returned. You won't find another parallel to this in the history of Jewry ever.

So the next time your over exploited "tight tender hairless fair " culo jumps up & down shouting anti semitism , remember this.

Please feel free to verify everything I've put out & challenge me in case of any discrepancy.
 
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