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Rest of the things are somewhat ok.
Pakistan AirForce : Updates & Discussions
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Rest of the things are somewhat ok.
They can get 20 squadrons of J-35s & J-10s it still doesn't matter. We'd lick them dry in our sleep. It'd come at a heavy cost to us . We're willing to pay that price .
You forget this is an Air Force which flew Gnats to take down the F-86 Sabres earning the sobriquet Sabre Killer.
In fact one of your distinguished Air Force Generals Chuck Yeager who served as military advisor to the PAF during the 1971 war was gung ho about them beating us.
Poor bustard got the shock of his life . He never forgave the Indians for the humiliation he suffered.
In other words sweetie we're used to riding mules ( no sweetie it's not what you think ) to their pure bred race horses & defeating them in a derby .
You're not from these parts so we don't expect you to understand the psyche of these inbreds.
It's like how the Zionists know the Arabs inside out & what they're capable of better than the Arabs themselves.
I'd leave you with this
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Yeah , I told you no information about E Virus like Stuxnet , no deal. That's the stated position of the IAF .
Besides we don't want your guys on our bases with their noses up our a r s e s sniffing every move we make making us feel like we've leased the aircraft from you not bought it .
With the Russians & the French whatever our misgivings at least they don't keep poking their noses into how we utilise the FAs we've purchased from them .
Now , we've informed you about this plenty of times before . Which part didn't you understand ?
Apart from acquiring Su-57s to counter PAF's J-35 acquisition, we also need to expedite Gandiva and in the meanwhile manufacture R-37M in India to counter their PL-17s. We also need to expedite MKI UPG. as the Long-Range Dual-Band IRST and Virupaksha radar that IRDE/DRDO are developing is specifically designed to track VLO jets at BVR Range(read 100+ kms away). MKI UPG. equipped with this IRST and Virupaksha radar along with having a missile(Gandiva) with 350 kms effective hunting range against HVAs and around 200kms against fighter-jets is going to be game-changing in our next-war against PLAAF or PAF.
Not just American fighter they are asking, any fighter i fear. probably they will seek gripen or EF Typhoon.
The PAF came close to buying the Gripen C/D during the early 2000s in a package deal that included Ereiye. Apparently, that didn't work out and they chose to license build the Chinese FC-1/JF-17.
Not sure about EF but they have test flown the Italian M-346 AJT more recently which also comes in a light attack version. Of course, we've been working behind the scenes to scuttle their arms deals as much as possible
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If we are serious about MMRCA we could have scuttle PAF purchase plans, but bloody hell, we were dancing on MMRCA since 2003.The PAF came close to buying the Gripen C/D during the early 2000s in a package deal that included Ereiye. Apparently, that didn't work out and they chose to license build the Chinese FC-1/JF-17.
Not sure about EF but they have test flown the Italian M-346 AJT more recently which also comes in a light attack version. Of course, we've been working behind the scenes to scuttle their arms deals as much as possible
What I mean is we actively tell other countries (mainly Eurozone) not to sell mil hardware to Pak.
Defence Minister Rajnath Singh takes up arms sales to Pakistan with Netherlands
Defence Minister Rajnath Singh expressed concerns over arms sales to Pakistan during a meeting with Dutch Defence Minister Ruben Brekelmans. Singh emphasised that such transfers could destabilise regional power dynamics, urging the Netherlands to halt military technology transfers to Pakistan...
Problem is we have zero leverage with China or the US.
Erdogan is an exception, of course. He has chosen to side with Pak on religious grounds, but will not be doling out freebies/discounts like the Americans or Chinese. Turkey is in bad shape financially.
One reason why Pak may have chosen HQ-19 over the seemingly more advanced Siper SAM, even though HQ-9 failed miserably.
That roach_tech guy is a retard and no pak won't buy kaan
anymore than it bought A-129/T-129 attack helis 
Coming to SIPER, it un-proven and roach weapons are more costly than chinese and they won't provide loans like chinese too. Pak will most likely try to get European/American equipment if it can't get suitable chinese ones. Only drones and stuff will be bought from turkey.
The quoted tweet from amir hussain tx is also a funny guy with posts like these
Achieving Space Launch Capabilities with PAF’s Mirage III
Starfighters Space launching an AMRAAM-based missile to deliver a small satellite to orbit
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I prefer pak not getting US & European gadgets. Any day those prodycts will be better than DRDO products.That roach_tech guy is a retard and no pak won't buy kaan
Coming to SIPER, it un-proven and roach weapons are more costly than chinese and they won't provide loans like chinese too. Pak will most likely try to get European/American equipment if it can't get suitable chinese ones. Only drones and stuff will be bought from turkey.
The quoted tweet from amir hussain tx is also a funny guy with posts like these
Achieving Space Launch Capabilities with PAF’s Mirage III
Starfighters Space launching an AMRAAM-based missile to deliver a small satellite to orbitmedium.com
But how will be the HQ -19 gonna protect Pakistan? HQ-19 are primarily built for ABM roles, yes the have the ability to intercept cruise missiles but it will be not as efficient as MRSAM or kusha, S400, brahmos speed Will now increase even more, it will be around mach 3.5 - 4.5, Pakistan already have less reaction time due to geography,
Looks like crystal maze & rampage also terrorise the PAF, anyways more food for harpy, sky striker and sheshnaag
This means they have nothing to protect themselves against our ballistic missiles either. And they are afraid we might use those next time. They might be thinking HQ-19 could intercept glide vehicle based hypersonic missiles. That is also very debatable.
Ohh boi they have to detect, track and fire the missile against our hypersonic missiles, which are travelling at Mach-10 and more, and the missile has to travel only mere 500km max in pakistan, shooting down the missile is out of question, when you already don't have space based radar's or enough ABM radar's, big long range radars,
Here we want to launch radar's and satellite constellations to space for tracking & surveillance, for hypersonic threats in future,
I have a bridge to sell if they believe that HQ-19 gonna Stop lRAShM, BM-04 or LDHCM
The HQ-19 will come with high power radars (500km+) of its own. Integrating those with the HQ-9B/BE and LY-80 systems would provide early warning at longer ranges. How effective it'd be is anyone's guess.
HQ-19 have the best chance to shoot it down in the mid course phase, as LRAShM conducts terminal maneuvers in the end phase before hitting the target, also LRAShM flies within the atmosphere, if we are considering HQ-19 intercepting them in the Tibetan region, it will have the time frame for intercepting but the geographical location of Pakistan, puts the HQ-19 system in disadvantage despite it operating high power radars, as the HGV system is fired from the mobile launcher and it's has to travel max 500km inside, which gives Pakistan just a couple of minutes to detect it, track it & shoot it or even less, same goes for pralay missile too,
Exact numbers will probably be kept under wraps as the Pakistanis usually do. Despite Chinese aid, they apparently ended up getting just 25 J-10CPs against a claimed total of 36.
The exact specs of the Pakistani HQ-19 are yet to be revealed. You can expect a lot of fud around it in the days to come.
If the system can intercept IRBM-class targets, I'd imagine any sale would be restricted under MTCR. Maybe this is an export version with downgraded capabilities?