Pakistan Navy: News & Discussions

And I should beleive your eye ball analysis?

The 039 family (Song) is an evolution of the Kilo-class.

They're still messing around with Stirling-based AIPs which as a basic technology is something that PN had for a long time in the form of the MESMA on Agosta-90B. There's no Fuel Cells or LIBs coming so there isn't any technological leap being achieved as far the AIP or Battery solution is concerned.

No flank array sonars either (which Scorpene has) so no real improvement in active/passive sonar coverage compared to legacy Kilo.

The threat is in the fact that PN is gonna be getting 8 new boats. But the sub itself is nothing special - doesn't bring anything new to the table that makes it better than what IN has already got*, Scorpene is still technologically a superior platform.

*with the exception of AIP, but then PN already had that advantage even before Hangor came so that's not something new we need to be worried about.
 
Could be the Chinese CM-401 naval ASBM. They already have the CM-302/YJ-12 ASCM operational on their new Type-054s. Likely to counter Indian ship-based BMD.
 


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This seems to be the FATAH-2 missile system. short-range (400 km) ballistic missile derived from FATAH 1 MBRL that can maneuver while in flight and change direction and range... May be slightly modified for Navy.

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It is good that we are acknowledging the growth of the Pakistan Navy. The value judgment comment is unnecessary.
Why is it surprising. It was never sudden. Their Submarine acquisition was running before 2010s. Their 4 more Chinese frigates along with 6 OPVs were also in discussions long back. They has signed up contracts with Damen Stan and Turkey too for OPVs , Corvettes and Tanker.
 

Pakistan to receive South African-modified maritime patrol aircraft from 2026​

The Pakistan Navy will in 2026 receive the first Embraer Lineage 1000 aircraft modified by Leonardo and Paramount Aerospace Systems for the maritime patrol role.

In mid-2021, Pakistan contracted Leonardo to convert three Embraer Lineage 1000 aircraft into long-range maritime patrol aircraft for the Pakistan Navy as part of long-term plans to replace the country’s P-3C Orion fleet. Paramount was tasked with handling the pre-conversion maintenance, repair and overhaul of the aircraft as part of the Sea Sultan project.

It is believed the conversion will add electronic support measures/electronic intelligence (ESM/ELINT) sensors, an electro-optical turret, active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar, satellite communications, chaff/flare dispenser and torpedo/sonobuoy/depth charge launcher.

The Chief of Naval Staff of the Pakistan Navy, Admiral Admiral Naveed Ashraf, told defenceWeb that the induction of the Lineage 1000 maritime patrol aircraft into the Fleet Air Arm “is a remarkable addition to our maritime patrol capabilities.”

“The aircraft is presently being modified in South Africa and is expected to be delivered in 2026, with subsequent deliveries planned over the coming years as part of a phased approach to modernise our naval aviation. With its state-of-the-art technology, the Sea Sultan will complement our existing platforms, such as the older P-3C Orion and ATR 72 aircraft, while offering superior performance in terms of range, endurance, anti-submarine warfare and anti-surface vessel capabilities,” he said.

The Pakistan Navy has stated an intention to ultimately replace its P-3C Orion fleet with ten converted commercial jets.

The Pakistan Navy inducted the first Lineage 1000 in September 2021, at a ceremony at Pakistan Naval Station Mehran in Karachi. This aircraft is unmodified and used for crew training.

Apart from Paramount, other South African companies are involved in the Sea Sultan project. Aerospace engineering and manufacturing company Aerosud has been contracted to supply two sets of interiors.

After an 18-month design phase, Aerosud in May began embarking on the manufacturing of interior components for the special mission configuration. These configurations include specialised components such as galleys, observer tables, class dividers, and equipment stowages, with a completion date planned for mid-2025.

“This contract not only highlights Aerosud’s technical capabilities but also underscores its strategic approach to collaboration and project execution. By partnering with Paramount Aerospace Systems, Aerosud continues to expand its portfolio of projects, reinforcing its position as a trusted supplier in the aerospace industry,” the company said.
 

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May be the failiure of our unethical carrot stick tactics. 20+ years of waiting on MMRCA and France started selling weapons now,
 
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May be the failiure of our unethical carrot stick tactics. 20+ years of waiting on MMRCA and France started selling weapons now,

Albatross-NG is British. It's basically the UK's CAMM-ER.

The Thales NS110 is also for the Royal Navy. So it looks like it's going to be re-exported.

The more important question is why Pakistan is going to such lengths to acquire short-range SAMs. Are Chinese SAMs not good enough for their needs?

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Wouldn't think too much about it, the ships are Romanian so they wouldn't get Chinese tech.
 
Albatross-NG is British. It's basically the UK's CAMM-ER.

The Thales NS110 is also for the Royal Navy. So it looks like it's going to be re-exported.
ER is italian funded version of CAMM. The booster is from Avio.

Wouldn't think too much about it, the ships are Romanian so they wouldn't get Chinese tech.
Its for Turkish Babur-class.
 
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ER is italian funded version of CAMM. The booster is from Avio.

CAMM is British. Any new variants funded by other countries is no different from MKI.

Its for Turkish Babur-class.

Babur also uses it, with a Turkish radar. But the article says the PN chose the same system with a French radar on the Romanian frigates.

The PN also bought a Chinese ship class with HQ-16 derived ADS.
 
CAMM is British. Any new variants funded by other countries is no different from MKI.
ER aka Albatross-NG is italian not UK unlike you said. Contract is through them. So, UK part is irrelevant.

The PN also bought a Chinese ship class with HQ-16 derived ADS.
Which is the point. They had choice for both but choose western.