There was a joint statement. In Quad FM meet.
But nonetheless, you're right about Quad being US' eastern nato dream.
J-Aukus might be more agreeable to US' military demand. Let's see how it unfolds.
Saudi Arabia signs mutual defence pact with nuclear-armed Pakistan
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But nonetheless, you're right about Quad being US' eastern nato dream.
J-Aukus might be more agreeable to US' military demand. Let's see how it unfolds.
Neither Saudi Arabia nor Pakistan face threat from Israel..... Pakistan on the other hand face existential threat from India...... The assumption being made that this is explicitly against Israel is complete BS.......attack on one is attack on other.....by whome exactly ?
Don't think we will.
And what's the haggling going to result in ? Restoration of the IWT ? You think Modi'd be able to live it down after he revives the IWT what with his image he's carefully crafted & cultivated over the years ?
Alternatively the Paxtanis accept a revised IWT which takes into account the present day realities & needs of both populations & divides the water share equally.
You think any Paxtani leader will sign on such terms & if he does will the rest of Paxtan accept it irrespective he'd be a marked man for whatever span of life he's left .
Those negotiations if in progress failed before starting.
What I meant was the spark that sets off the firestorm is already brewing.
Eager to hear your thoughts on the matter. For various reasons Pak would want the firestorm in spring 26 when the yellows can pass through snow free. We would like to be done and dusted before that.
What do you think ?
I'm all for action before the year is out. With such fast paced & unexpected changes like Israel striking Qatar & a month long campaign against Iran , the KSA Paxtan defence pact , the US gradually withdrawing the world over from their security commitments , it's only a matter of time before China steps up to fill in the vacuum & who knows what further surprises are in store in the near future ?
Do both of you think India will go for kill without a major incident on our soil? Personally, I don’t think so, however, I am curious to know what you guys think? Will we see a “resumption of operations” before year end?
This guy is definitely not a Qatari. We all know who is running this a/c.
Very well articulated. Pakistan whatever they are dancing on, things are not that rose. Misadventure of Pakistani Generals in India will be paid by Pakistan only not by Saudis whatever way Pak twist the fact.Sauds are not that fool to form NATO like alliance with Pakistanis. But dollars and diplomatic support from Sauds will be there as it was always in future war with India.
But Pakistan is missteping with Iran . First with Centcom Israel sponsor Michael Kurrila and with Defence pact with Saudis. And they are anyway in radar of Israel.
I hope Israel now realise that they are in as much danger from a Pakistani bomb as they are with an Iranian bomb. The transfer of nukes is now officially allowed from Pakistan to Saudi and then god knows who.
Rest 63Billion is the budget for terrorism which doesn't come under "defense" budget obviously.
Poor chap let it out in his excitement
A Decade after the Saudi Military Intervention in Yemen: An Assessment
Exactly a decade ago, Saudi Arabia announced the launch of a military intervention in Yemen, promising to lead a coalition of more than 10 nations—although some would later end their participation—against the Houthi armed group, officially known as Ansar Allah, that had taken over power from...
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The PA will definitely be deployed in the next Yemen offensive. The previous one did not yield good results. The fauji foundation will definitely make bank. It is indeed a win for them. For the regular chap in Infantry, not so much.
Another theory doing the rounds on SM which seems credible is MBS's reforms are running aground in KSA & the Islamists are re grouping.A Decade after the Saudi Military Intervention in Yemen: An Assessment
Exactly a decade ago, Saudi Arabia announced the launch of a military intervention in Yemen, promising to lead a coalition of more than 10 nations—although some would later end their participation—against the Houthi armed group, officially known as Ansar Allah, that had taken over power from...
The PA will definitely be deployed in the next Yemen offensive. The previous one did not yield good results. The fauji foundation will definitely make bank. It is indeed a win for them. For the regular chap in Infantry, not so much.
Under such circumstances , if things get out of hand , Egypt can't be seen blooding its hands with Arab blood given kinship & other factors.
OTOH Paxtan has a reputation to live upto. They were deeply involved in lifting the siege of Mecca where the Grand Mosque was taken over by Islamists in 1979 & the crackdown which followed.
They were also involved in crushing the Black September rising in Jordan by the Palestinians which claimed the lives of upwards of 10,000 Palestinians. Kana aka then Brigadier Zia ul Haq was in charge of the Fauji Foundation detachment in Jordan then .
Jordan repaid Fauji Foundation's gesture by flying Royal Jordanian FAs to Paxtan for the PAF to fly in the 1971 war . It didn't amount to much in the final reckoning . Besides Jordan did it at the prompting of Kissinger & Nixon. But that's a story for another day.
So in addition to Iran & its proxies there's another angle which KSA had to consider when inking the pact with the Paxtanis .
I am more inclined on the internal threat being the impetus for such pact. To act as a signal and deterrence for another royal faction.
Do you think there would be a clause in there somewhere which makes distinction b/w Saudi nation and Saudi royal family?
Or maybe a backroom agreement with USA&Israel that Saudi will handle the houthis problem after israelis degrade them a bit more.
It has merit. The PA has always been itching to get hands on more funds and this is again one such opportunity. Even a favour by KSA at the right moment can help the Pakistanis. The cycle continues and the wheels turn. The more things change, the more they remain the same. By the way, the KSA FM had reached out to the Pakistanis saying that he could speak with MEA and try to get them on the table after Sindoor. It ended up in a failure or was abandoned.
They're clowns which is why no one in India takes them seriously.
The Saudis want the Pakistanis to live because of their nukes, they want to use Pakistani nukes as deterrence against Iran. They are well aware that Pakistanis are randis for the gulf Sheikhs and are just taking use of that. Otherwise when it comes to India vs Pakistan they dont give a shit I feel. If Pakistan didnt have nukes, the Saudis wouldn't give 2 craps about Pakistan.
In the event of a conflict, they may send some hard military support such as jets however if they feel India can strike Pakistani nuclear bases.