You mean to say for special forces?
Support forces, engineers, artillery, armour etc, where their primary job does not involve rifles, they get the AK-203.
You mean to say for special forces?
I’m wondering What it takes to make such an aesthetically pleasing weapon.
OFBs Bulgarian Inspired AK Family aka Trichy Assault Rifle(TAR) family use milled steel, so they lack rivets.I’m wondering What it takes to make such an aesthetically pleasing weapon.
Why can’t OFBs with thousands and thousands of employees taking government salaries, billions of rupees thrown every year and having a huge captive market in form of Indian tri services and almost all civilian arms market, still prefer to produce same old Bulgarian AK47 with stamped sheets and ugliest looking rivetings. Do they know anything about ergonomics of weapon systems?
Even Chinese have started to make very modern looking ARs,DMRs, SMGs and Sniper rifles recently. Their recent AR based rifle with full length pica tiny rails and ambidextrous charging handle looks very decent
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Looks like something designed in 80s. Still an improvement over WW2 era INSAS and it’s other ugly siblings.OFBs Bulgarian Inspired AK Family aka Trichy Assault Rifle(TAR) family use milled steel, so they lack rivets.
Also check this out, the new updated look of the ARDE 5.56x45mm CQB Carbine,
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Here’s the old look,
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Also it’s stated for production by private firms, not OFB.
What’s so revolutionary in the QBZ-191 vs the ARDE Carbine? Both have a full length top rail, small rail section in the 6 o’clock position and provision to mount a single rail section in the 3 and 9 o’clock positions? The only real difference is an adjustable stock the QBZ which doesn’t fold due to the buffer tube and a folding stock on the ARDE one, but an adjustable folding stock can be installed if required and an ambi fire selector, which the user did not ask for it in the GSQR for the CQB Carbine hence it wasn’t done, but we know they can due it based on the fact they’ve done it for JVPC and Amogh Carbine. There’s even a provision left for it on the gun which also doubles as the point for the folding stock to lock in place. Credits to Johny Baba on DFI for spotting this provision and the images as well as the text in them.Looks like something designed in 80s. Still an improvement over WW2 era INSAS and it’s other ugly siblings.
Here is something designed in this decade
In China
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In Japan
In Finland
I’m not talking about technicalities but simple fit, finish and other ergonomic features visible to a casual onlooker.What’s so revolutionary in the QBZ-191 vs the ARDE Carbine? Both have a full length top rail, small rail section in the 6 o’clock position and provision to mount a single rail section in the 3 and 9 o’clock positions? The only real difference is an adjustable stock the QBZ which doesn’t fold due to the buffer tube and a folding stock on the ARDE one, but an adjustable folding stock can be installed if required and an ambi fire selector, which the user did not ask for it in the GSQR for the CQB Carbine hence it wasn’t done, but we know they can due it based on the fact they’ve done it for JVPC and Amogh Carbine. There’s even a provision left for it on the gun. Credits to Johny Baba on Other Forum for spotting this provision and the images as well as the text in them.
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Same provision is also found on the Ishapore R2 7.62 NATO Rifle.
Only the DMR version of the QBZ 191 has a free floating barrel and MLOK handguard so I’m not counting that. Also I’m not getting into a comparison between the 5.56x45mm vs the 5.8x42mm cartridges as that’s not the point of this debate.
Its also quite obvious the rest of the firearms what you’ve mentioned are at another level compared to these 2 firearms in terms of appearance and external features.
Maybe we should just exhaust these Milans in our next cross-border ceasefire violations along the LoCWe have plenty of these Milan missiles,even French army failed to get a kill with Milan .
We have plenty of these Milan missiles,even French army failed to get a kill with Milan .
Milan is SALCOS(semi-automatic command to line-of-sight) guided, where the operator has to physically control the missile to guide it to the target with a small joystick like controls, there’s a thin wire which is connected to the missile from from the launcher for transmitting control inputs . Just because one missed doesn’t mean the system is junk. TOW missile, Konkurs, Bhaktar Shikan are all wire guided SALCOS missiles too.
We have plenty of these Milan missiles,even French army failed to get a kill with Milan .
That explains why a lot of ATGMs move like dancing randomly while heading towards the target. Or it’s some kind of evasive manoeuvring to prevent possible interception ?Milan is SALCOS(semi-automatic command to line-of-sight) guided, where the operator has to physically control the missile to guide it to the target with a small joystick like controls, there’s a thin wire which is connected to the missile from from the launcher for transmitting control inputs . Just because one missed doesn’t mean the system is junk. TOW missile, Konkurs, Bhaktar Shikan are all wire guided SALCOS missiles too.
It is obvious that Javelin would be much more accurate due to it being guided by a seeker. But it also costs much more, these SALCOS ATGMs are bloody cheap relatively so we can’t write them off.
Have you seen the magnitude of that explosion, it is obviously not from Javelin's warhead alone, the explosives in that truck is responsible for that huge explosion. If they couldnot have javelin at that point of time, they all could have perished. At critical time we need a weapon which as reliable like a Japanese or German petrol car. Javelin is such a weapon & Milan is not.Milan is SALCOS(semi-automatic command to line-of-sight) guided, where the operator has to physically control the missile to guide it to the target with a small joystick like controls, there’s a thin wire which is connected to the missile from from the launcher for transmitting control inputs . Just because one missed doesn’t mean the system is junk. TOW missile, Konkurs, Bhaktar Shikan are all wire guided SALCOS missiles too.
It is obvious that Javelin would be much more accurate due to it being guided by a seeker. But it also costs much more, these SALCOS ATGMs are bloody cheap relatively so we can’t write them off.
Exactly, the operator is continuously giving inputs from the launch unit till it hits the target.That explains why a lot of ATGMs move like dancing randomly while heading towards the target.
And that is exactly why the Nag Missile Family and MPATGM have been created. These SALCOS ATGMs are still very much useful for large scale ATGM attacks where numbers are required for saturation and is not feasible to depend only on ATGMs with seekers. Hence even the US Army still hasn’t replaced SALCOS and has started purchasing unguided Rocket Launchers/RCLs like the Carl Gustaf rather than the Javelin replacing the M72 LAW, AT4 and TOW, what they’ve done with the CG is to add an FCS with and LRF and Ballistic Computer to the RCL to improve accuracy by giving an approximate ideal targeting area and increase the range slightly and increase the likelihood of a hit even for moving vehicles.Have you seen the magnitude of that explosion, it is obviously not from Javelin's warhead alone, the explosives in that truck is responsible for that huge explosion. If they couldnot have javelin at that point of time, they all could have perished. At critical time we need a weapon which as reliable like a Japanese or German petrol car. Javelin is such a weapon & Milan is not.