Ukraine - Russia Conflict

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Lolwa said:
Or may be they are just wasting time and bleeding Ukrainians slowly. Ukraine has already experienced over a million casualties and is facing post Soviet demographic decline like the Russians. But the Russians are a 150 million strong country compared to 38 million strong Ukraine.
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The Russian are trying to advance near Avdiivka and dying at a rate of >1000/day.

Your figures on Ukrainian casualties are BS. Russian doesn't even have more artillery anymore, before we even get on to accuracy and drones. Russia is bleeding themselves slowly.
 
Lolwa said:
Or may be they are just wasting time and bleeding Ukrainians slowly. Ukraine has already experienced over a million casualties and is facing post Soviet demographic decline like the Russians. But the Russians are a 150 million strong country compared to 38 million strong Ukraine.
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randomradio said:
The Russians have significant the combat reserves that are still unused from their original force from last year. And they have since added 400,000 more troops who are at various levels of training. Otoh, the UAF is now recruiting women in large numbers and have also increase the age limit to 60. So you tell me.
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The same is true for Ukraine but many of those 400k mobilised Russians are already dead. Russian training isn't exactly comprehensive. Women and older people can fulfill non-combat, or stand-off roles.
 
BMD said:
The same is true for Ukraine but many of those 400k mobilised Russians are already dead. Russian training isn't exactly comprehensive. Women and older people can fulfill non-combat, or stand-off roles.
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Nope. Those 400k are not even on the frontline. The Russians have a large number of soldiers fighting at the frontline, a large number in reserve, and the 400k is on top of all of that. The original 500k they had this time last year has dropped down by 150k at most.
 
randomradio said:
Nope. Those 400k are not even on the frontline. The Russians have a large number of soldiers fighting at the frontline, a large number in reserve, and the 400k is on top of all of that. The original 500k they had this time last year has dropped down by 150k at most.
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Only in your head. Who do you think carried out the failed offensives around Svatove and Avdiivka? And it was likely >400k too, that was just Russia's official figure.

400k troops ~ 100k frontline troops, which lasts ~100 days.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1729402959677497513
https://twitter.com/x/status/1729216218773758120
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BMD said:
Only in your head. Who do you think carried out the failed offensives around Svatove and Avdiivka? And it was likely >400k too, that was just Russia's official figure.

400k troops ~ 100k frontline troops, which lasts ~100 days.
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Nah, even the BBC has uncovered only 37k Russian deaths in total. So 50k dead and 100k irrecoverable casualties at best.
 
randomradio said:
Nah, even the BBC has uncovered only 37k Russian deaths in total. So 50k dead and 100k irrecoverable casualties at best.
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:ROFLMAO: A Russian study showed >50k Russian excess Ukraine War deaths at the start of the year, and that only includes the bodies that were returned home and got officially buried not the corpses rotting in trenches.

www.aljazeera.com

New data suggests 50,000 Russian deaths during Ukraine war

Independent Russian media shed light on one of Moscow’s closest-held secrets.
www.aljazeera.com www.aljazeera.com
 
BMD said:
:ROFLMAO: A Russian study showed >50k Russian excess Ukraine War deaths at the start of the year, and that only includes the bodies that were returned home and got officially buried not the corpses rotting in trenches.

www.aljazeera.com

New data suggests 50,000 Russian deaths during Ukraine war

Independent Russian media shed light on one of Moscow’s closest-held secrets.
www.aljazeera.com www.aljazeera.com
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Sure, my number's older. But you can see that the actual deaths are far lesser than your 400k dead.

The number of dead among RAF is actually even lesser once you take the penal battalions out of the picture. So I'm particularly speaking about officially contracted soldiers not part of the Storm-Z units. Almost 500k mobilized by last year, and 400k new set of troops yet to be moved to the front. And they are now fighting a much smaller UAF than what they started with.
 
randomradio said:
Sure, my number's older. But you can see that the actual deaths are far lesser than your 400k dead.

The number of dead among RAF is actually even lesser once you take the penal battalions out of the picture. So I'm particularly speaking about officially contracted soldiers not part of the Storm-Z units. Almost 500k mobilized by last year, and 400k new set of troops yet to be moved to the front. And they are now fighting a much smaller UAF than what they started with.
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The 50k only covers half the war and it only covers a fraction of the dead. You think every body has been recovered from no-man's land, from under buried rubble. There's probably 5 or 6 bodies rotting away somewhere for every officer or person of note who's actually been buried, assuming the study was even trying to be legitimate. In some cases there are no bodies, e.g. direct or near direct hit from a HIMARS. Take that video from a while ago where a group of Russians were gathered around a Shahed launcher when a HIMARS landed on them. Add the HIMARS warhead to the drone warheads and their proximity and you only have pieces and blood spatter, no bodies, no burial.

644 days, 1800 fire missions per day, 9000 artillery rounds per day fired. 1 killed every 3 fire missions and 15 rounds say. Do the maths. Russian state figures are BS along with everything else they've said about this war, how it started and the reasons for it.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1729773196075778487


jetray said:
bargain of the century !!! wonder what will happen if russia gives nukes to some monkeys in middle east.
https://twitter.com/x/status/1729089247766773798
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Could backfire on Russia, consider their involvement in Syria. Could also result in nuclear retaliation against Russia if the bomb material has the signature of one of their reactors.
 
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Footage of the battle and the first defeat of the Ukrainian Leopard 1A5 tank made in Germany have been published. The battle episode was filmed in the Kupyansk area; the tank was in service with the 44th mechanized brigade of the Ukrainian Army. The tank was not directly hit; the tank was probably damaged by a nearby artillery shell explosion, after which the crew abandoned it. The German Leopard 1A5 tank is a modernization of the first Leopard-1 tank, created in 1987. The tank is very vulnerable as it has thin armor. The thickness of the frontal armor of the tank is up to 70 mm, the turret armor is up to 65 mm, the sides of the tank have armor 35-45 mm thick. Data on the first versions of Leopard 1 tanks.

 
BMD said:
The 50k only covers half the war and it only covers a fraction of the dead. You think every body has been recovered from no-man's land, from under buried rubble. There's probably 5 or 6 bodies rotting away somewhere for every officer or person of note who's actually been buried, assuming the study was even trying to be legitimate. In some cases there are no bodies, e.g. direct or near direct hit from a HIMARS. Take that video from a while ago where a group of Russians were gathered around a Shahed launcher when a HIMARS landed on them. Add the HIMARS warhead to the drone warheads and their proximity and you only have pieces and blood spatter, no bodies, no burial.

644 days, 1800 fire missions per day, 9000 artillery rounds per day fired. 1 killed every 3 fire missions and 15 rounds say. Do the maths. Russian state figures are BS along with everything else they've said about this war, how it started and the reasons for it.
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Inheritance laws deal with all that. Missing in action is part of it.

And it's not Russian state figures, it's BBC's figures via social media interactions and inheritance claims.

And your argument makes it way worse for the Ukrainians.
 
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BMD said:
The 50k only covers half the war and it only covers a fraction of the dead. You think every body has been recovered from no-man's land, from under buried rubble. There's probably 5 or 6 bodies rotting away somewhere for every officer or person of note who's actually been buried, assuming the study was even trying to be legitimate. In some cases there are no bodies, e.g. direct or near direct hit from a HIMARS. Take that video from a while ago where a group of Russians were gathered around a Shahed launcher when a HIMARS landed on them. Add the HIMARS warhead to the drone warheads and their proximity and you only have pieces and blood spatter, no bodies, no burial.

644 days, 1800 fire missions per day, 9000 artillery rounds per day fired. 1 killed every 3 fire missions and 15 rounds say. Do the maths. Russian state figures are BS along with everything else they've said about this war, how it started and the reasons for it.
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Since July:
www.economist.com

A new study finds that 47,000 Russian combatants have died in Ukraine

The invasion has at least doubled Russia’s total combat losses since 1945
www.economist.com www.economist.com
The authors double-checked this figure against data broken down by sex and age on the total number of Russians who die each year. Figures for 2023 were not available, but Dmitry Kobak, a researcher, found that 24,000 more men aged 15-49 died in 2022 than female death rates that year would suggest—a close match for the inheritance-based estimate of 25,000 deaths.

Using records of compensation payments to military families, the study suggested that a further 78,000 fighters have been wounded so gravely that they have left military service. This would bring Russia’s irrecoverable losses to 125,000—nearly the size of its original invading force.

So total deaths and maimed are at 125k, so about 150k in total by now.
 
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