Ukraine - Russia Conflict

Herciv said:
But India does. Its companies are more and more powerful, like China 20 years ago. Its army is more and more poweful like China 20 years ago. Modi is having much deeper relation with much more countries especially in the arabic region. Modi has develop its own road toward Europe.
Modi doesn't want the road of US nor the one of China.
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When far away people start looking from their own limited & flimsy eyesight and think what we need & want, it really starts getting depressing.

Case in point, the very same, our PM, Narendra Modi party BJP is running government since at least 2 decades in Gujarat and they have not only released the multiple gangrape convicts (not alledged, but convicted in full court) and but also garlanded by BJP's elected representatives and RSS (religious parent organization of BJP) with full fanfare. What to make out of it?

Now somebody who might not have lived in India enough, don't know cultural, social and other factors which make most impact on local people's thinking, and then the person starts framing a political diagram, to his/her best understanding and claims it's "The thing" happening. Nothing could be further from the truth.
Being powerful isn't equal to what's good for people and society.
 
jetray said:
Nonsense, Indian being a non-aligned country was providing support to many freedom struggles in asia /africa since its independence. This directly clashed against western imperialistic interests. If we look at holistic point of view what west has been doing throughout the history there is no way west & India get along with each other. India is the anti-thesis to western imperialism while china is a competitor as such it always ends up being on the opposite side of either group.
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Such as?

Russia is a European imperialist too. They took over 30% of Asia (as well as 40% of Europe) and either killed or drove out everyone living there. So I don't see why you feel they are saints. Why haven't you helped any of those areas with independence struggles? Russia invaded more of Asia than Britain did FFS. And it hasn't given any of it back since. But Russia is your friend. So your main principles against western imperialism seem to be against boat usage, against withdrawal from invaded territories, and against leaving enough people around in invaded areas to complain. Good to know.

This also explain why you are fine with Russia's invasion of Ukraine. No boats were used, they don't plan on withdrawing and they are either killing everyone off or forcefully deporting them. Strange morals but okay.


jetray said:
Probably some one should remind you of Indian-Irish links which pissed of british during the early 19th century.
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You mean like the terms _Anonymous_ uses, which are mostly from the 19th century?
 
jetray said:
So who created the chinese monster in the first place?
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Your friend Russia did.

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jetray said:
Yeah India can get to the top if we dumped our morals and principles into dustbin like west has been doing for ages. China is now just aping the west in every thing thats why there is a collision with west, both competing in the same market space.
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You have no morals. You are happy to be friends with entities far worse than the west, simply because they haven't directly affected you in the past - see previous post for details. It's all just a charade on your part.
 
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BMD said:
Such as?

Russia is a European imperialist too. They took over 30% of Asia (as well as 40% of Europe) and either killed or drove out everyone living there. So I don't see why you feel they are saints. Why haven't you helped any of those areas with independence struggles? Russia invaded more of Asia than Britain did FFS. And it hasn't given any of it back since. But Russia is your friend. So your main principles against western imperialism seem to be against boat usage, against withdrawal from invaded territories, and against leaving enough people around in invaded areas to complain. Good to know.
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What's sauce to the goose ought to be sauce to the gander ? Isn't what you're putting out by way of Paddy logic applicable to the US, Canada, in fact all of the Americas, Australia even Israel. What do we do about them? Perhaps nothing, as they're your allies.

BMD said:
This also explain why you are fine with Russia's invasion of Ukraine. No boats were used, they don't plan on withdrawing and they are either killing everyone off or forcefully deporting them. Strange morals but okay.
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Take it up with them or don't. In what way is it India's concern? Why should inter tribal wars in Europe involve the world?

BMD said:
You mean like the terms _Anonymous_ uses, which are mostly from the 19th century?
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I've often held that in here people can classified based on their intellect , placing them on the spectrum beginning with a normal person on the extreme left of the said spectrum to an extremely stupid person on the extreme right of it.

If you notice I've left out geniuses & the criminally insane in this spectrum for they're exceptions not the rule .

The spectrum would start with a normal person on the extreme left & move on to a to a stupid person next to him, to an Irishman next to a stupid person, to sweetie, to a stupid Irishman, to you Paddy, to Paddy² where Paddy² would be you 10 yrs later awaiting a knee / hip replacement & prostate operation in NHS, still being slapped on the head by mom dearest for not tidying up the room, pissing in the pot with the seat on , not bathing in 6 months etc.

That's how the spectrum on intellect would read in here & out there or at least it should be read that way.

On topic links between Indo Irish freedom fighters were 20th century not 19th century for the latter represents the 1800s.
 
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Air defence activity in Yevpatoria, Western Crimea.

Panic in Yevpatoria. It's not funny anymore. Let's get together and get out of here Russian air defense is in full operation
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jetray said:
Nonsense, Indian being a non-aligned country was providing support to many freedom struggles in asia /africa since its independence. This directly clashed against western imperialistic interests. If we look at holistic point of view what west has been doing throughout the history there is no way west & India get along with each other. India is the anti-thesis to western imperialism while china is a competitor as such it always ends up being on the opposite side of either group.

Probably some one should remind you of Indian-Irish links which pissed of british during the early 19th century.
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Ever considered why Asia has 4.7bn people in it, but the Russian 30% only has 34m?
 
_Anonymous_ said:
What's sauce to the goose ought to be sauce to the gander ? Isn't what you're putting out by way of Paddy logic applicable to the US, Canada, in fact all of the Americas, Australia even Israel. What do we do about them? Perhaps nothing, as they're your allies.
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People in the US, Canada and Australia get a vote and a damn decent standard of life, as can be seen in the net flow of migration towards those places and away from places like Russia, where they have no vote or rights, and the standard of living is terrible. And from places India claims to have helped free from oppression.

As for Israel, I believe the Jews are the original people of that region historically.


_Anonymous_ said:
Take it up with them or don't. In what way is it India's concern? Why should inter tribal wars in Europe involve the world?
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Well, your folks were talking about being part of a balance. When that's your position on a democracy being invaded, exactly what balance do you offer? The truth is that India offers no multi-polar balance because it is not independent enough of Russian energy and arms to offer a position different to Russia's, and so it lies and contorts the truth to try and moralise the only stance its dependency allows it.

_Anonymous_ said:
I've often held that in here people can classified based on their intellect , placing them on the spectrum beginning with a normal person on the extreme left of the said spectrum to an extremely stupid person on the extreme right of it.
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_Anonymous_ said:
If you notice I've left out geniuses & the criminally insane in this spectrum for they're exceptions not the rule .

The spectrum would start with a normal person on the extreme left & move on to a to a stupid person next to him, to an Irishman next to a stupid person, to sweetie, to a stupid Irishman, to you Paddy, to Paddy² where Paddy² would be you 10 yrs later awaiting a knee / hip replacement & prostate operation in NHS, still being slapped on the head by mom dearest for not tidying up the room, pissing in the pot with the seat on , not bathing in 6 months etc.

That's how the spectrum on intellect would read in here & out there or at least it should be read that way.

On topic links between Indo Irish freedom fighters were 20th century not 19th century for the latter represents the 1800s.
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This part is complete nonsense, as one can expect from you. Back on ignore you go.
 
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Russia are getting desperate, continually trying to say they have moved the frontline when they haven't. Around Donetsk they are claiming to have recently captured territory held since Feb 24th, like the bottom corner of Marinka. Quite funny really.
 
jetray said:
shrinking budget , less javelins more tows. Next will be bow & arrow instead of bullets.
https://twitter.com/x/status/1560800457290817536
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:rolleyes: Really? You're really that salty and not too bright that because they are getting TOWs it somehow means US is giving them less capable weapons? Only the really dumb and uneducated think like that. TOW missile's range is much greater than the Javelins and has a bigger punch than the Javelin. US passed a bill giving Ukraine $40 billion and it's given in increments. But nice try.
 
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