Ukraine - Russia Conflict

They barely have any new next-gen weapons themselves, certainly too few to field operationally in Ukraine it seems. They sent 1 T-90M and that was killed by an 84mm recoilless rifle. Their comms and recce has been crap.

Their only T-90M loss was their own kill. The tank either broke down or stopped due to enemy action, but the Russians decided they won't recover it, so they blew it up themselves.

I doubt anyone in Europe still wants Russian weapons mate. You're kidding yourself as usually.

Russian oil is going to Europe via India in the form of petroleum. The Russian weapons bit is for other non-European countries that can no longer trade with Russia except via India.
Expensive. 2,600 missiles at $6.5m for a Kalibr and $10m for an Iskander-M. So $17-26bn in stand-off missiles alone, which is over 1% of Russian GDP ($1.6tr - pre-war).... in just over quarter of a year. After 12 months they'll have spent more than their annual defence budget in missiles alone. :ROFLMAO:


Don't be silly. The cost is many times lower than that. A T-90 costs less than $2M, so why will a missile be more expensive?
 
Their only T-90M loss was their own kill. The tank either broke down or stopped due to enemy action, but the Russians decided they won't recover it, so they blew it up themselves.



Russian oil is going to Europe via India in the form of petroleum. The Russian weapons bit is for other non-European countries that can no longer trade with Russia except via India.


Don't be silly. The cost is many times lower than that. A T-90 costs less than $2M, so why will a missile be more expensive?
It was taken out one way of the other. I doubt the crew escaped either way.

We were talking about weapons but I note you're still helping Russia bypass sanctions.

Cruise missiles cost more than tanks, hence why they wouldn't be using so many if their air force wasn't sh1t.
HOT in Kherson region: Ukrainian fighters showed INFLAMMABLE VIDEO of destruction of occupiers

 
It was taken out one way of the other. I doubt the crew escaped either way.

We were talking about weapons but I note you're still helping Russia bypass sanctions.

Cruise missiles cost more than tanks, hence why they wouldn't be using so many if their air force wasn't sh1t.
HOT in Kherson region: Ukrainian fighters showed INFLAMMABLE VIDEO of destruction of occupiers


The crew escaped. They were seen running.

I was talking about oil for Europe and weapons for military customers. And no, we are highly interested in keeping our trade going with Russia. You can santion them, we don't care. As EAM Jaishankar has already said, India is its own side.

No, Russian missiles are cheaper than the T-90M. Even in the West, tanks are more expensive than missiles.
 
The crew escaped. They were seen running.

I was talking about oil for Europe and weapons for military customers. And no, we are highly interested in keeping our trade going with Russia. You can santion them, we don't care. As EAM Jaishankar has already said, India is its own side.

No, Russian missiles are cheaper than the T-90M. Even in the West, tanks are more expensive than missiles.
And how far would thy get on foot given that someone was close enough to hit their tank with an unguided 84mm recoilless rifle?

India is playing the role of IG Farben alongside China in this war.

Western tanks are far more than tracked coffins that's why.


Okay, that was an export contract.

 
Soldiers of one of the units of the operational command "North" destroyed the enemy unit along with ammunition with the help of anti-tank missile system "Stugna".
 
And how far would thy get on foot given that someone was close enough to hit their tank with an unguided 84mm recoilless rifle?

India is playing the role of IG Farben alongside China in this war.

Western tanks are far more than tracked coffins that's why.


Okay, that was an export contract.


Too much Call of Duty for you. Why would UAF kill unarmed, fleeing soldiers? Even in the Donets, the Russians caught UAF soldiers fleeing to their side across the water, where they were vulnerable, and the Russians let them go. The tank crew simply ran over to the Russian side and that was that. A Russian tank then fired upon the abandoned T-90M and the convoy simply moved on.

We are just looking after our own interests. We don't see the world like sheep do.

Doesn't matter, tanks are still more expensive. And Russian missiles are absolutely dirt cheap. The ATACMS alone cost about $800,000. The Iskander could cost 2-3 times less. And the majority of the missiles fired in the war was the Iskander, more than 60%.
 
Too much Call of Duty for you. Why would UAF kill unarmed, fleeing soldiers? Even in the Donets, the Russians caught UAF soldiers fleeing to their side across the water, where they were vulnerable, and the Russians let them go. The tank crew simply ran over to the Russian side and that was that. A Russian tank then fired upon the abandoned T-90M and the convoy simply moved on.

We are just looking after our own interests. We don't see the world like sheep do.

Doesn't matter, tanks are still more expensive. And Russian missiles are absolutely dirt cheap. The ATACMS alone cost about $800,000. The Iskander could cost 2-3 times less. And the majority of the missiles fired in the war was the Iskander, more than 60%.
To stop them coming back in another tank later.

I think it's more a case that you don't morally have a leg to stand on with respect to the Ukraine War, so you call everyone else sheep to cover it up.

Russian tanks aren't expensive. They're very basic. The cruise missiles are relatively high tech and rely of western electronics. You also have to allow for yacht tax on each missile. There is no way a 3.8t guided ballistic missile will cost 1/3rd of $800k. Provide evidence.
 
To stop them coming back in another tank later.

I think it's more a case that you don't morally have a leg to stand on with respect to the Ukraine War, so you call everyone else sheep to cover it up.

Russian tanks aren't expensive. They're very basic. The cruise missiles are relatively high tech and rely of western electronics. You also have to allow for yacht tax on each missile. There is no way a 3.8t guided ballistic missile will cost 1/3rd of $800k. Provide evidence.

Even war has ethics.

Nah, we're good. We know the truth, you don't.

You will have to look up its ruble rate instead of some fake USD rate. A 14k T Yasen class sub costs $1B, a 10k T Virginia class sub costs $3.5B. Hence proved.
 
Even war has ethics.

Nah, we're good. We know the truth, you don't.

You will have to look up its ruble rate instead of some fake USD rate. A 14k T Yasen class sub costs $1B, a 10k T Virginia class sub costs $3.5B. Hence proved.
If an enemy doesn't surrender they are fair game by any law. If the crew surrendered after escaping they are legally obliged to take them, if they tried running then you're legally entitled to shoot them.

No, your truth is Russian BS. This is the truth. Yanukovych did something that was politically and economically illiterate, ignored the people who voted for him and then ran. Both major Ukrainian parties promised to join the EU in 2010, there was no EEU movement during that election. What he did was like Macron deciding to join the CSTO now or something, without any vote or consultation. It could only have one result.


The Ukrainian President’s Big Broken Promise​

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DECEMBER 6, 2013, 6:40 PM

Aside from the fact that these are submarines and not even remotely close to similar capability, your prices are 1 decade removed from each other.


According to Forbes, the cost of a Tochka-U is estimated at $300,000, while the cost of a Kalibr is $6.5 million