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BMD said:
Yeah, a terminal guidance system, which is called a seeker. What? How does that statement even make sense to you? IFF is basically a kind of radio. DSMAC has a seeker that images the target area, and compares it with an image of the target so that it knows what area to hit.

The E variant is only accurate to 70m over 280km. So no, it isn't.

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Stop wasting my time telling me that DSMAC isn't a seeker. I've even shown you a diagram of a cruise missile with the seeker labelled clearly. The sensible thing to do is simply accept that you are wrong. @Ashwin

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A DSMAC is a guidance system that works throughout its flight, so how can it be "terminal"? Lol, just 'cause something works from launch to end doesn't mean it's a seeker, never mind a terminal seeker.

The E variant is MTCR limited to 280Km, which we know is "fake".
 
randomradio said:
A DSMAC is a guidance system that works throughout its flight, so how can it be "terminal"? Lol, just 'cause something works from launch to end doesn't mean it's a seeker, never mind a terminal seeker.

The E variant is MTCR limited to 280Km, which we know is "fake".
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Not always. INS/GPS and TERCOM (for cruise missiles) are used throughout the flight, but how could a Pershing II use DSMAC (RADAC) throughout the flight when it's in space? It's for accurate terminal guidance, i.e. a seeker and contain the same hardware as a seeker, hence same cost.

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The combination of these technologies produced the digitized scene-mapping area correlator (DSMAC). DSMAC systems are often combined with TERCOM as a terminal guidance system, allowing point attack with conventional warheads.
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INS will not give you the desired accuracy over such range (unless you use something like AIRS which is even more expensive than a seeker) and GLONASS can be jammed.

safriz said:
So whats exactly happening?
UK government has blocked all Russian media on aor, on cable and on the Internet. So we cannot have any news from Russian sources.
All what we hear is from othet sources, which are biased against Russia.
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You won't here any news from Russia, all the 'news' is state-controlled.
 
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BMD said:
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Couple of weeks more and the war is going to get interesting once HiMARS/MLRS get deployed. If I were Ukraine I'd deploy them to Kherson region and strategically pull back from Severodonetsk since it has no strategic value. Once Russian forces start dying/retreating from Kherson Ukraine should start its offensive in Kherson using Odessa's brigade for reinforcements.
 
BMD said:
Not always. INS/GPS and TERCOM (for cruise missiles) are used throughout the flight, but how could a Pershing II use DSMAC (RADAC) throughout the flight when it's in space? It's for accurate terminal guidance, i.e. a seeker and contain the same hardware as a seeker, hence same cost.

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Pershing II has a radar seeker, which also performs the DSMAC function. It has a radar homing phase.
 
safriz said:
So whats exactly happening?
UK government has blocked all Russian media on aor, on cable and on the Internet. So we cannot have any news from Russian sources.
All what we hear is from othet sources, which are biased against Russia.
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The Russians have crossed the Donets river at multiple points, and, as of a few days ago, the Severo-Lysychansk area has slowly started becoming untenable for the Ukrainians and there is a risk of Russia encircling the region, these are the best troops the UAF have, including "NATO" troops. So they are currently debating whether to hold or retreat to a more defensible position along Slovyansk. And when it comes to Slovyansk itself, the battle to take the city has begun.

Long story short, with the Russians having destroyed all their production facilities, the UAF are running out of materials, and Western weapons are coming in way too slowly. In the meantime, the Russians are using their 10-15 times artillery advantage to pound the UAF, so the casualty rates are also unsustainable. At least 200-300 UAF are being killed every day along with some 600-800 injured. That's more than a battalion per day. The Russians have found a way to push the UAF back while taking very few casualties themselves.

If the UAF is to win, they need to raise a very large force composed of well-trained soldiers with Western equipment. But the West is sending them peanuts. While the UAF failed to modernise themselves over the last 8 years, the West also only prepared the UAF to fight an insurgency, so no heavy weapons.
 
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Innominate said:
Couple of weeks more and the war is going to get interesting once HiMARS/MLRS get deployed. If I were Ukraine I'd deploy them to Kherson region and strategically pull back from Severodonetsk since it has no strategic value. Once Russian forces start dying/retreating from Kherson Ukraine should start its offensive in Kherson using Odessa's brigade for reinforcements.
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Svereo has political value, 'cause it's the only UAF presence in Luhansk. But yeah, if the Russians start attacking the main city of Slovyansk, then Severo will become completely useless.
 
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Pershing II has a radar seeker, which also performs the DSMAC function. It has a radar homing phase.
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The guidance to re-entry is purely inertial, the radar then starts imaging the target area to compare with pre-recorded images taken by satellite and recon planes. With TV/IIR cruise missiles this is done by an IIR/TV seeker.


Innominate said:
Couple of weeks more and the war is going to get interesting once HiMARS/MLRS get deployed. If I were Ukraine I'd deploy them to Kherson region and strategically pull back from Severodonetsk since it has no strategic value. Once Russian forces start dying/retreating from Kherson Ukraine should start its offensive in Kherson using Odessa's brigade for reinforcements.
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Agreed. They also need to work on the remaining piece of the Kharkiv area.

I would plant explosives underground throughout Severodonetsk and in the bunkers under the Azot chemical plant and then pull out, and when the Russians advance trigger the explosives.
 
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randomradio said:
The Russians have crossed the Donets river at multiple points, and, as of a few days ago, the Severo-Lysychansk area has slowly started becoming untenable for the Ukrainians and there is a risk of Russia encircling the region, these are the best troops the UAF have, including "NATO" troops. So they are currently debating whether to hold or retreat to a more defensible position along Slovyansk. And when it comes to Slovyansk itself, the battle to take the city has begun.

Long story short, with the Russians having destroyed all their production facilities, the UAF are running out of materials, and Western weapons are coming in way too slowly. In the meantime, the Russians are using their 10-15 times artillery advantage to pound the UAF, so the casualty rates are also unsustainable. At least 200-300 UAF are being killed every day along with some 600-800 injured. That's more than a battalion per day. The Russians have found a way to push the UAF back while taking very few casualties themselves.

If the UAF is to win, they need to raise a very large force composed of well-trained soldiers with Western equipment. But the West is sending them peanuts. While the UAF failed to modernise themselves over the last 8 years, the West also only prepared the UAF to fight an insurgency, so no heavy weapons.
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Russian and Ukrainian casualties are currently both running at 100-200 per day. Russian advances are very slow in some areas, in other areas there is stalemate, in Kherson they are losing ground daily.
 
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Innominate said:
Couple of weeks more and the war is going to get interesting once HiMARS/MLRS get deployed. If I were Ukraine I'd deploy them to Kherson region and strategically pull back from Severodonetsk since it has no strategic value. Once Russian forces start dying/retreating from Kherson Ukraine should start its offensive in Kherson using Odessa's brigade for reinforcements.
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I'm just hoping the recon drones and general intelligence is good enough to make full use of the range.
 
BMD said:
I'm just hoping the recon drones and general intelligence is good enough to make full use of the range.
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There hasn't been any reason to use drones deep inside enemy lines since they don't have the means to hit that far but that will soon change. Russians behind the frontlines feel safe since they know they can't get touch by Ukraine arty but that will soon change. What will make HiMARS/MLRS a game changer is each rocket is GPS guided and will be able to hit them deep and at night.

US with their intel/SATs is also going to provide GPS coordinates.
 
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