Lok Sabha passes Citizenship Bill amidst Opposition outcry

Sure, but Muslims openly identifying as atheist in Pakistan would be an open invitation to violence, considering the state’s blasphemy laws are interpreted to outlaw apostasy, coupled with the National Database and Registration Authority’s (NADRA) refusal to let citizens officially change Islam as their religion.
Pakistan’s War on Atheism

Identifying yourself as Hindu might not bring about immediate legislative discrimination, but identifying yourself as athiest brings about immediate state coercion.
Reaffirms my post that you've quoted. The numbers are too small & insignificant. The SC may well consider empirical truths that it's impossible to be an atheist in an Islamic country to which our government may well plead it'd be impossible to identify them and in case we do, they can always apply for citizenship thru the regular route. We haven't prohibited anyone from seeking our citizenship except we've kept the bar high.





Ok Gentleman the fun & games are over. Officially! Why, you ask?


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Good. Finally

Rahul Gandhi To Lead Congress's Citizenship Law Protest In Delhi Tomorrow ( )
 
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And how do you think this government has done on that?

It's pretty telling that someone with no horse in the race hyphenates Modi with Shah :)

Maun ki baat ...

Cheers, Doc

Doc,
At least get the race right, My dog isn't in the race for CAA. :)

The government has underperformed on the economic front, I was hoping for tougher reforms, but this government (Modi-Shah, i.e PMO which has direct control over Finance, Defence, home and EFI, hope that explains why I use Modi Shah ).My expectation was tougher penalties on malpractices in corporate governance, Strengthening of SEBI, Higher investment caps for Navratna PSU's, Faster resolution of payments for Infra companies, tariff regulation for Steel, Pharma, Speciality Chemicals, lowering direct taxes for the middle class and pay revision for Primary and secondary government school staff.

The government has underperformed on the defence acquisition and development front, External affairs and internal administration as well.

But I still rate them higher than UPA-2, more or less close to some aspects of Rao Government.
 
And the thakedars of the constitution are biased when Hindus get brutalised day in day out
Women raped - religion Hindu - ignore
Man lynched - religion Hindu - ignore
Mob violence on - religion Hindu - ignore
Attack on faith - religion Hindu - ignore

Propaganda has limits indian constitution was never secular , it was inserted in the 70s
First Indian constitution was written with hindu murals from Ramayan and Mahabharat , so the original constitution writers were dismissive of hindu mainstreaming ?

Don't answer , nobody is interested in BDSM offers
Forget about Hindus , we died , will continue to die at the hands of muzzis and Cristo

You bleatings only makes me wish muzxies and Cristo kill us faster

Typical victim complex of a member of a faith that is flexing majortanism for a decade on all not of the faith now.

If being a billion strong you are so purportedly weak, a definitional change is not going to help you.

Not against people many of whom believe fanatically in a book finally written somewhere in 1000 AD.

The Constitution means nothing in comparison. Do look elsewhere for help.

Cheers, Doc
 
I really don't have a dog in the race.

From the TV debate shows and the Parliament speeches I have seen, the following is my observation.

Bill crafted/ Acts Amended to protect refugees and create a path to Naturalization/Citizenship is not againt Article 14,

CAA doesn't claim one religion is superior to others (doesn't infringe equality), it rather does two things with simplicity:
1> Classification of the groups that have established the precedence of Religious persecution. This is an intelligible differentia that is specific to Islamic countries in the Indian subcontinent. i.e the groups specified are different from the professed state religion of these countries.
2>The Differential that is set by the classification of the groups is to identify the refugees who fled their home country to escape persecution, thus the classification is directly related to the objective of providing status relief to refugees in India.

CAA was aimed to alleviate citizenship requests for individuals who were victims of religious persecution. That is the scope, not Sectarian persecution (Shia, Ahmadi), Political Persecution (Sindhi, Baloch, Kashmiri, Hazara); For such cases the existing frame work for political asylum is still available to these cases.

The only place I see the SC striking down the bill is exclusion of Atheists as a classification group which faces the biggest challenge of the death penalty especially in Pakistan due to its Blasphemy Laws.

Now coming to NRC:

2019 election turnout by EC's own records about 900 million people were eligible to vote, i.e around 900 million people are above the age of 18. My assumption is there should be no problem in establishing their names in the national NRC, especially for the ones who have a PAN card, Aadhar Card, Passport, Voter Id, birth certificate, domicile cert, school LC, etc. I would suggest the government to conduct the NRC on similar lines to KYC for banks and brokerages.
This beautiful video of kapil sibbal legal overview of the entire issue is the clearest explanation of what is wrong with cab
 
Technically we don't confirm to French secular definitions.

Our form of secularism is technically definitionally (western) pluralism.

There cannot be a Hindu Rashtra in a nation where 300+ million do not identify as Hindu.

Cheers, Doc
The word in Indian constitution is "Panth Nirpeksh". I do agree with you here that Indian secularism does not confirm to French secularism. BUT, it is even more stringent than the Frech secularism. We just can't have muslim personal law or separate laws for any religion in any form. It was for this reason that even the reservations were given initially only for ten years, than extended every ten years till till date. reservation is a temporary provision in our constitution. Muslims can't have it their way in the name of secularism. Either they have to give up their minority status and also their separate laws and become secular or have everything as per sharia in a Hindu Rashtra. in which case they will be treated in similar manner as Hindus are treated in an Islamic Republic/ State.
 
The word in Indian constitution is "Panth Nirpeksh". I do agree with you here that Indian secularism does not confirm to French secularism. BUT, it is even more stringent than the Frech secularism. We just can't have muslim personal law or separate laws for any religion in any form. It was for this reason that even the reservations were given initially only for ten years, than extended every ten years till till date. reservation is a temporary provision in our constitution. Muslims can't have it their way in the name of secularism. Either they have to give up their minority status and also their separate laws and become secular or have everything as per sharia in a Hindu Rashtra. in which case they will be treated in similar manner as Hindus are treated in an Islamic Republic/ State.

I agree with you 500%.

Get UCC.

Cheers, Doc
 
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Compare this to thousands and lakhs of Hindus

Some cases are genuine some are not ( not those in the links )
Modus operandi is to migrate via homophobic , atheist laws , all nationalities indulge , 2 indian girls claimed lesbian and harresment to move to Canada , guess what even during questioning.

Case by case basis the atheist can be considered , but not ahmefiyas they created por...... And now want refugee fuk them . Karma is bitch . Blood of lakhs of Hindus Sikhs in their hands.

Those who don't learn from history don't get second chance
Remember prithviraj chauhan

Islamic infighting Shit in islamic countries not out problem
 
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Since you are endangered species i will answer you , that's the only reason , i want to not have that burden on me .

You got options what type of answer you want

1. JNU /JMI style answer

2. Muzzie style answer

3. Pappu style answer

4. sickular style answer

5. Libtard style answer

6. presstitude type answer

7. Bharat tere tukre honge insha allah type answer

8. Imran Khan Niazi / india national congress style answer ( from Congress Turkish office )

9. When All Idols Will Be Removed...Only Allah’s Name Will Remain aka IIT K style answer

10. Fuk O* hindutva banner style answer

etc

etc

etc

if you want more options don't hesitate , and i will be referincing from videos of hindu women begging 2 legged pigs for mercy before being raped for being a hindu and butchered Hindus who nobody gave a fuk about etc etc
And the thakedars of the constitution are biased when Hindus get brutalised day in day out
Women raped - religion Hindu - ignore
Man lynched - religion Hindu - ignore
Mob violence on - religion Hindu - ignore
Attack on faith - religion Hindu - ignore

Propaganda has limits indian constitution was never secular , it was inserted in the 70s
First Indian constitution was written with hindu murals from Ramayan and Mahabharat , so the original constitution writers were dismissive of hindu mainstreaming ?

Don't answer , nobody is interested in BDSM offers
Forget about Hindus , we died , will continue to die at the hands of muzzis and Cristo

You bleatings only makes me wish muzxies and Cristo kill us faster

RW and Left, Both sides on the same coin. Alarmist, Victimhood and Virtuous.

Its my right to use presstitude,sickular,Libtard but how could you call me bhakth or Sanghi.

One says the fascist Hitler is here the other you want them to rape your sister?

Both not realising how similar they are in their hatred.
 
The word in Indian constitution is "Panth Nirpeksh". I do agree with you here that Indian secularism does not confirm to French secularism. BUT, it is even more stringent than the Frech secularism. We just can't have muslim personal law or separate laws for any religion in any form. It was for this reason that even the reservations were given initially only for ten years, than extended every ten years till till date. reservation is a temporary provision in our constitution. Muslims can't have it their way in the name of secularism. Either they have to give up their minority status and also their separate laws and become secular or have everything as per sharia in a Hindu Rashtra. in which case they will be treated in similar manner as Hindus are treated in an Islamic Republic/ State.

do you have any answers to the questions sibal asked in the video I shared?
 
This beautiful video of kapil sibbal legal overview of the entire issue is the clearest explanation of what is wrong with cab
Dog Whistle? to mix refugees vs Illegal immigrants.

Mr Sibal forgets that this law is exactly to address the refugee crisis.

one point I want to address of this legendery whataboutry leaders.
baccho ko kaise citizenship dooge:
Bacche jo India mein born hue hai, woh naturalized Indians hain.


Let me remind of you a famous line : "We do not want war. If you want war we accept your offer unhesitatingly. We will either have a divided India divided or a destroyed India."

The congress party was browbeaten into submission by direct action day, and it spinelessly agreed to partition. Was HMS butchering around people for the partition of India? The ones who draw parallels between Savarkar and Jinnah are ill-informed.
 
You would be surprised.

How much fighting did you have here on 370?

I wasn't here ....

Cheers, Doc

Look man @vstol Jockey

Take it from a man without his ancestral homeland.

Apni dharti sabko pyari hai.

You are playing with fire with citizenship.

What else option is being left to 200+ million Indians now?

Today they'll come to the streets.

Tomorrow if you use force, you will have Syria on steroids.

Cheers, Doc
 
You would be surprised.

How much fighting did you have here on 370?

I wasn't here ....

Cheers, Doc
370 they were preparing. This CAA is the time they brought that out.

They couldn't prepare thoroughly since 370 was sudden.

You think they all went to gather bags of rocks after CAA was passed? They've been preparing for months.
 
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370 they were preparing. This CAA is the time they brought that out.

They couldn't prepare thoroughly since 370 was sudden.

You think they all went to gather bags of rocks after CAA was passed? They've been preparing for months.

Dude where do you live?

How many rocks you want?

I'll provide. From my own compound.

Cheers, Doc
 
do you have any answers to the questions sibal asked in the video I shared?
I will go thru it tomorrow and post my comments. But I suggest that we must wait for the SC verdict on this issue. A two weeks time has been given to govt to file its reply and I am sure by end of feb we will have the verdict. But what happens if SC upholds this amendment? Will those who have caused so much of losses and created anarchy, apologise to the people of India and pay up for the damages?