Ukraine - Russia Conflict

They are "outdated" bcause they are not meant for close range saturation rocket attacks that hamas and hezbolla can bring but they can absolutely handle ballistic and cruise missile attacks from Russia. I think the US will buy them back to transfer them to Ukraine in fact I wouldn't be surprised if this was a US idea. Ukraine says it needs 7 Patriot batteries to complement their SAMP-T's to completely cover Ukraine airspace so 6 Israeli batteries would be more than enough with the 3 they already have. It would also complement the incoming F-16's with datalink giving F-16's a much further reach in BVR or in the shooting down of drones and cruise missiles.
 
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Fire at the refinery in Ryazan as result of a drone attack​


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Innominate said:
They are "outdated" bcause they are not meant for close range saturation rocket attacks that hamas and hezbolla can bring but they can absolutely handle ballistic and cruise missile attacks from Russia. I think the US will buy them back to transfer them to Ukraine in fact I wouldn't be surprised if this was a US idea. Ukraine says it needs 7 Patriot batteries to complement their SAMP-T's to completely cover Ukraine airspace so 6 Israeli batteries would be more than enough with the 3 they already have. It would also complement the incoming F-16's with datalink giving F-16's a much further reach in BVR or in the shooting down of drones and cruise missiles.
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They can certainly deal with Su-34s lobbing glide bombs.
 
randomradio said:
Not necessarily. The Russians are preparing for an offensive, so we can only come to a conclusion after we see the result. Since the Ukrainian counteroffensive in 2022, the Russians have been taking it slow all for the sake of the upcoming offensive.
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Russians are not "taking it slow", they're going as fast as they possibly can. They are slow because Ukrainians oppose fierce resistance. Russia cannot possibly go faster.

Here, a Russian takes some casual stroll in the occupied territory of Avdiivka, looking at the scenery, admiring the beauty of Russki Mir.
https://twitter.com/x/status/1785397616412356857
randomradio said:
We are not following the same wars then.
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Evidently, as you keep thinking that Russia is trying to minimize its losses, or is deliberately advancing slowly.

randomradio said:
Lot of fake news coming out.
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LOL.

I guess the floods are fake news too? And the destroyed refineries as well, of course.

randomradio said:
Pretty much zero losses to date.
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Because they're not attacking NATO yet.

You seem to be quickly to forget the context of the sentence bits you respond to.
 
RASALGHUL said:
"Air defence facilities have shot down 10 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles, six U.S.-made ATACMS operational-tactical missiles, and two French-made Hammer aerial guided bombs".
They figured out ATACMS quite early.
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You have to balance that against the damage done by the ones that get through. How much does a single S-400 radar cost, even without the launchers, plus Ka-52 helicopters? More or less than 6 ATACMS (circa 6 x $800k-1000k)?
randomradio said:
Lot of fake news coming out.
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Yeah, Hindustan CrTimes pumps it out all day. Russia have had more success lately but they are still behind where they were mid-July last year and well behind where they were early June.
 

And yep, oil price remains stable. OPEC sets the price not Russia, and that would remain so with or without Russian oil.

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Surprise F-16 update issued by Ukraine

Ukraine has spent long months waiting for Lockheed Martin-made F-16 jets to take to the skies.
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RASALGHUL said:
"Air defence facilities have shot down 10 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles, six U.S.-made ATACMS operational-tactical missiles, and two French-made Hammer aerial guided bombs".
They figured out ATACMS quite early.
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Et voila as @Picdelamirand-oil might say.
BMD said:
Nice!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1785630215848255844
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