I think it was very evident from the get go, anyone with even half a brain cell knew what the Frenchies were trying to do, but that is besides the point bcz every single thing pointed out in that paper has merit independent of whatever the French were planningLook Frenchies are never going to seriously buy our gear, those news are just idle gossip & were intended for their deals to speed up.
It was very foolish and naive of us, can't believe someone even thought this was a good idea, like you said it is pretty self evident they would never even seriously consider or use it.This was probably an offer by us , a Brazil like give and take proposal which they will never seriously consider or use.
I am not disagreeing with you but Area weapons from other countries (like to Koreans) have better CEP than 800 metres (at least they claim they do)First point is, the current Pinaka is MBRL an area weapon, Its role is to neutralise an area of approx 1km x 1 km/ 800 meter whatever.
Frenchies are looking for a precision MLRS where it is for pinpoint strike role at longer distance with 1 or 2 rockets, maybe 5-6 together.
As for the French, while their demands for accuracy are different from ours and we have different priorities, would I be wrong in saying that Guided Pinaka can do better in terms of CEP.
AgreedUntil the new variants are ready & established , we are unlikely to get any serious traction beyond the 122mm grad consumables ie rockets.
Because the Army never asked for it, and the MoD or Netas never pushed for it,DRDO initiated the long range guided rocket project much behind than others ,
Infact we were buying Smerch right after Inducting Pinaka,
And even the Smerch was not pursued diligently because Army saw no use for long Range MLRS, so no wonder DRDO never worked on it.
Infact correct me if I am wrong Solar Defence proposed a long Range MLRS but Army showed no interest and that was silently shelved.
But miraculously in big 2025 Army realised we need long Range MLRS and bamm we imported PULS MLRS instantly.
The truth is before 2025 army was not interested in long Range MLRS.
Still won't be ready by 2030,it means LRGR will be based on mature tech & can take lesser development time.
Also if it will take less development time and the tech is already mature why aren't we developing the entire Range of MLRS like the Chinese, why aren't we developing our very own PHL 191
Are we waiting for the Army to have another revelation so that we can start development in 2030 and order it in 2040 just like Guided Pinaka
Guided Pinaka was tested in 2017 and a decade later in 2026 we still haven't ordered it.
If we need to order foreign weapon to gain experience every single time what does it say about Army's competence.IA ordering PULS is to gain experience on such a long range MLRS , features from it will be incorporated into our LRGR like systems. Without hands on training & use, army can not even write a GSQR properly, PSQR can be written as a fantasy weapon system like they do every time, often stretches the feasibility of a weapon system.
Will we be also ordering mercenaries and Generals from Ukraine to gain experience in drone warfare and it's related command structure or are we going solo.
Indian army's inability to write coherent QRs only shows it's incompetence and nothing else.
It doesn't take a genius to figure out carrying 8 meter long Fire sticks (Smerch) on a 4x4 is utterly ridiculous, but somehow we have a QR from the army saying just that.
I have no doubt the reason for author's doubt is nefarious (borderline xenophobic even) but like you said earlier our LRUs for our GNC kits come from the outside.About the precision & jamming part, so in high jamming & spoofing environment the author can doubt the Indian system but not the EU/usa made one, we can guess why.
If push comes to shove EU/USA can reconfigure these LRUs easily, but can we.
Agreed but I think it's a bit disingenuous to compare INS with GPS, INS has its own inherent limitationsIs it any surprise why gps co-ordinate fed bombs started failing in Ukraine once high ew was deployed. Our module is designed with multi redundant channel so when gps is denied it switched to ins and cep remains very good now that precision of ins has become better than before. This was always need of the hour for us because we face ew degraded environment, therefore none of our missile ever rely on external signal. Very basic usp of ins being dead reckoning in nature.
Also what is your basis for saying that others don't have INS just as good as ours, if switching to INS keeps in GPS denied environment keeps our CEP good won't that be the case with others too,
Genuinely curious, How is this even relevant ?Lastly, show me one MBRL/MLRS made by western oems that flies at speed > 4 mach class. (I genuinely do not know).
Guided pinaka flies mach 3.4 i think, anything with guidance kit need to fly at reduced speed.
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