PAK-FA / Sukhoi Su-57 - Updates and Discussions

LOL, aren't all the ones on display at major airshows just T-50 prototypes? They don't even have the surface putty applied. When have you ever seen a so-called Su-57 on display?


I am sure the "real" Su57 has the RCS of an electron and the range for a round trip to Mars. Till then, us armchair generals can only use the data available-- especially compared to its competition.
 
Stealth != Protection from lucky strikes. If at all enemy AD was even involved with that SINGLE incident, all it showcased was the survivability of the platform.

You and the Iranians can claim "6-0" all you want.
 
Stealth != Protection from lucky strikes. If at all enemy AD was even involved with that SINGLE incident, all it showcased was the survivability of the platform.

You and the Iranians can claim "6-0" all you want.
Oh,
since “stealth”≠ “Protection from lucky strikes”, then I'd rather choose “lucky” rather than 'stealth.' Might as well prepare more greenbacks for the Americans and see when they'll revive the F-117 — that 'highly stealthy' but “unlucky” advanced weapon which entered service in 1983 and was retired in 2008, setting the record for the shortest service life of Since the F-86 entered service any jet-powered aircraft since the dawn of aviation. After all, the Americans clearly don't understand as well as Your Excellency folks what kind of weapons are truly trustworthy. Mmhmm.(y)
Because the Americans would rather hold their noses and use the granddaddy B-52 — which got shot down nine times in a single night over Vietnam — than continue using 'stealth' fighters. Isn't that just bizarre?
It just occurred to me — weren't the Americans discussing restarting the F-22 production line a couple of years ago to sell to the Japanese for their F-3 future fighter program? Too bad the Japanese didn't take their American daddy up on the offer. Maybe this is an opportunity — more suitable than buy the Su-57s..
Oops — struck a nerve at the Pentagon again. My bad.
 
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Lower the DeepSeek "temperature" setting bud - that should help it hallucinate less.
We are going off topic.

And F117 still had a longer career than Yang Wei, the designer of your stealth 5th gen, recently purged to XinJiang likely with a missing kidney.
 
Lower the DeepSeek "temperature" setting bud - that should help it hallucinate less.
We are going off topic.

And F117 still had a longer career than Yang Wei, the designer of your stealth 5th gen, recently purged to XinJiang likely with a missing kidney.
F-117, J-20, Su-57, which one is better to buy?