Brexit and Future of UK : Discussions

Put that post in Funny Stuff, Houlihan.
You seem to have twisted sense of humour.

Just look at British current account deficit of 4% or more over a decade. These would have collapsed UK but they still exist due to returns from foreign investment.

UK has invaded many countries with USA and has many oil companies and other assets which give handsome returns. So, UK's colonial practice is funding it even today. Companies like BP are minting money for UK

UK is ‘not reliant on foreign investors’ to fund current account gap
Britain is not reliant on the ‘kindness of strangers’ to fund its current account gap, said researchers at the Bank of England, contradicting Mark Carney’s explanation of how the UK funds its lifestyle. Instead, the current account deficit has been possible because of British nationals making capital gains on foreign assets, which have funded the country’s overseas spending. The UK’s current account deficit reached 5.9 per cent of national income at the end of 2016, the highest level since equivalent figures started to be collected in 1948. The two main elements of the current account balance are the trade balance — the difference between the value of Britain’s exports and imports — and the primary income balance — which includes the difference between investment income earned abroad by residents, and that earned domestically by non-residents. Mr Carney, the governor of the bank, has repeatedly warned that Britain’s trade deficit leaves the country reliant on foreigners investing in the UK to fund the current account gap. Mr Carney said that “relying on the kindness of strangers is not optimal . . . when you’re running a 4-4.5 per cent current account deficit” and when uncertainty over Brexit might deter foreign investment. But a new analysis of official statistics by two members of bank staff, published on Thursday, challenges this view. “Rather than a pauper relying on the charity of strangers, the UK is more like a member of the landed gentry, using its past foreign investment to fund its lifestyle of excess,” said Rachana Shanbhogue and Stephen Burgess, the authors of the research. The new research was published on the Bank Underground blog, an outlet for bank staff to share their emerging thinking and views that challenge or support “prevailing policy orthodoxies”. Between 2012 and 2016, there was a net outflow of £82bn of foreign investment from UK assets, the researchers said. Instead, the widening current account deficit has been funded by UK residents cashing in on capital gains made on their investments abroad. This has been used to fund the country’s increased overseas spending. Between 2012 and 2016, UK investors cashed in £526bn of foreign investments or an average of around 6 per cent of national income each year. However, these divestments were more than offset by capital gains made by UK residents on their overseas assets during that period. The value of overseas assets, which are typically denominated in foreign currencies, has been boosted by the devaluation of sterling since the Brexit vote. Recommended UK banks ready to withstand hard Brexit, stress tests find BoE secretly warned UK courts of Brexit onslaught Central banking has never looked more daunting Since UK investors currently hold assets overseas worth 420 per cent of UK national income, the country could continue to fund its current account deficit by disposing of foreign assets “for decades”, said the researchers. “This does not mean UK policymakers can be complacent,” said the authors. “An extreme reversal of attitudes to the UK — so that foreigners not only stop investing in the UK, but sell off their existing holdings — would clearly have large effects on UK asset prices. But . . . the UK is less vulnerable to the whims of foreign investors than they have been in the past.” Analysis in last month’s Financial Stability Report, published by the BoE, suggests that since the start of 2016, the UK has been more reliant once again on foreign investment to fund its current account deficit. Foreign capital inflows have increased and UK investors have acquired new assets abroad.
 
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You seem to have twisted sense of humour.

Just look at British current account deficit of 4% or more over a decade. These would have collapsed UK but they still exist due to returns from foreign investment.

UK has invaded many countries with USA and has many oil companies and other assets which give handsome returns. So, UK's colonial practice is funding it even today. Companies like BP are minting money for UK

UK is ‘not reliant on foreign investors’ to fund current account gap
What he meant was - Britain was busy doing charity in former colonies like India. He isn't as sharp as he pretends to be nor what you give him credit for. He certainly wasn't aware of the phenomenon this elaborate article talks about.

Now get ready to suffer more data mining by him on this and related topics thanks to the lifeline you've thrown him.
 
What he meant was - Britain was busy doing charity in former colonies like India. He isn't as sharp as he pretends to be nor what you give him credit for. He certainly wasn't aware of the phenomenon this elaborate article talks about.

Now get ready to suffer more data mining by him on this and related topics thanks to the lifeline you've thrown him.

Meanwhile back in the land of reality.............

Car sales plunge as Nissan warns on Brexit
 
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Britain leaving is only phase 1. Phase 2 is setting up a far more liberal trading bloc with the US, Canada, Australia and New Zealand, which will cover only trade and not free citizenship and politics. Then I suspect we will find out how much EU member states really like the EU.
 
Britain leaving is only phase 1. Phase 2 is setting up a far more liberal trading bloc with the US, Canada, Australia and New Zealand, which will cover only trade and not free citizenship and politics. Then I suspect we will find out how much EU member states really like the EU.
You forgot yours and our favourite RoI: that's Republic of Ireland for the uninitiated with the highest GDP/capita, I suspect of all the nation's you've named in your post.



That probably explains why the old hag's dancing.


 
You forgot yours and our favourite RoI: that's Republic of Ireland for the uninitiated with the highest GDP/capita, I suspect of all the nation's you've named in your post.
That may well be the first country to join to avoid a hard border.:)
 
Can't see why you find this so amusing. There are parts of the EU people like and parts they hate. We will simply take the parts they like and strip the rest, so that the customers get what they want.
 
Can't see why you find this so amusing. There are parts of the EU people like and parts they hate. We will simply take the parts they like and strip the rest, so that the customers get what they want.
I assume you have strong evidence of the Anglo US + trading bloc, you're discussing out here else I'd have whatever it is you're having.
 
What do the forum members think about the impact of Brexit on India, Isn't it better for India to have a weakened EU and alone British in the long run?
 
What do the forum members think about the impact of Brexit on India, Isn't it better for India to have a weakened EU and alone British in the long run?
Europe will be stronger after Brexit because the UK saw Europe only as a large free trade area and blocked all the progress that could make it a competing power with the United States.
 
Europe will be stronger after Brexit because the UK saw Europe only as a large free trade area and blocked all the progress that could make it a competing power with the United States.
The UK represented 1/6th of EU GDP, without it you have no chance of catching the US, let alone a potential Anglo trading bloc.

You also betray Juncker's lies. There is still no official admission that the EU is supposed to be a country/federal super-state. Please at least have that officially admitted.
 
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I assume you have strong evidence of the Anglo US + trading bloc, you're discussing out here else I'd have whatever it is you're having.
Makes sense. It will also be very easy. Similar economies, similar wages, similar living standards, common language, relatively long distance from the Middle East and Africa. Far simpler than the EU.
 
Makes sense. It will also be very easy. Similar economies, similar wages, similar living standards, common language, relatively long distance from the Middle East and Africa. Far simpler than the EU.
Will you be informing Trump or should I do the honours? Besides if its another trading bloc you think the formerly Great Britain wants to join, why did you get out of EU to begin with?

See Donahue, there are people who look before they leap & there are people who leap first and ask wtf did I do that later?

See you around.
 
Will you be informing Trump or should I do the honours? Besides if its another trading bloc you think the formerly Great Britain wants to join, why did you get out of EU to begin with?

See Donahue, there are people who look before they leap & there are people who leap first and ask wtf did I do that later?

See you around.
Because we only want the trade, not the mass immigration, pathetic rules and financial robbery.
 
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The UK represented 1/6th of EU GDP, without it you have no chance of catching the US, let alone a potential Anglo trading bloc.
You also betray Juncker's lies.

Europe has 508 million inhabitants, without the UK it will have 445 million inhabitants. At the moment GDP per capita is very uneven, but one of Europe's goals, which the UK does not understand, is to make progress in the countries with the lowest incomes. That is why the richest pay more than the poorest. Germany has achieved this with East Germany, which has made significant progress. When GDP per capita has equalized, it will be time to think of a federal Europe that will be as powerful as the United States.
 
Europe has 508 million inhabitants, without the UK it will have 445 million inhabitants. At the moment GDP per capita is very uneven, but one of Europe's goals, which the UK does not understand, is to make progress in the countries with the lowest incomes. That is why the richest pay more than the poorest. Germany has achieved this with East Germany, which has made significant progress. When GDP per capita has equalized, it will be time to think of a federal Europe that will be as powerful as the United States.

Meanwhile back in the UK - reality is hitting home.........

Brexit costing Britain £500m a week and rising, says report
 
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Meanwhile back in the UK - reality is hitting home.........

Brexit costing Britain £500m a week and rising, says report
But but but, you're mistaken. According to our mutual pal @BMD here, these are at best temporary inconveniences.

A huge golden treasure chest lies at the end of the rainbow - the rainbow being a trading bloc of all Anglophile nations with a majority WASP populace and similar cultural values.

He'd love to disclose more but right now it's all hush hush.