Opinion Understanding Bhima Koregaon

[RATHORE]

Just a simple question, do you even know what is the traditional occupation for Patidars- leva patels and kadva patels? that raul baba was supporting to promise untenable reservations for?

He probably didn't even know that there are 2 types of Patels lol.

 

[_Anonymous_]

No one said anything about Periyar or Karunanidhi being anti-Brahmin. You brought it up and now you are discussing it in length!.

I did so for there are larger issues involved. Caste and casteism has different connotations at different times in different locations of modern India. Periyar constantly emphasised he was anti Brahminism not anti Brahmin . Though the movement he set into motion frequently conflated the two.

Self-Respect Movement had to do with eradication of casteism, women’s rights and rational thinking. Of course people who had everything will be pissed. Same goes for Brahmin not attacking Dalit in TN, No one said they did. They have negligible influence to do anything.

Your stance is self contradictory. On the one hand you claim people who had everything would be pissed & OTOH you agree with my statement that they did not indulge in violence against Dalits in TN adding they had negligible influence . Confused , are we ? Don't worry . You aren't alone . That needn't prevent you from drawing conclusions.

Other than your insecurity i don't see an argument here. Only thing i said was how Dravida movement eliminated the possibility of Hindutva politics in south.

I've seen you comment on the insecurity of the people's post , you quote on quite frequently. Its 4 times , the last I counted it , to 4 different people . No better way to hide one's own insecurity than accuse the other of being insecure . If that doesn't work , call out his caste. Offense after all is the best form of defence. Good gambit . After all there's nothing much at stake here.

You never made any such comment on Dravidian politics eliminating Hindutva earlier. If that's the case how do you explain the BJP's rise in Karnataka? Btw - Dravidian politics as you put it , is prevalent only in TN.

Again you are mixing personal life and ideology because you failed to counter ideologies as it is. Savarkar's apology is against his public ideology which is Hindutva for the united india. He was an irrelevant figure in the biggest social/national movement of the time. Because he failed to support a greater good with his narrow mindset. Someone's number of wife or sexual preference is no one else's business.

Whether a person's personal life ought to be examined in the context of his ideology or not is subjective . Irrespective of this , people will do it . What has Savarkar's apology to the British got to do with his public ideology ? These are mutually exclusive . He issued a grovelling apology to get his life sentence pardoned or remitted. The British used it to serve their own political ends. They didn't invent Savarkar or his thoughts. Those are his own .

He postulated Hindutva and declared among other things that the Hindus and Muslims constitute two separate nations not in s geographical sense with separate territories based on religion but in an ideological sense . Having said that he also argued for cultural nationalism , in favour of forcing Hindu cultural hegemony over the Muslims and Christians.

If he were such an irrelevant figure , why are you even discussing him ? Admittedly , his view was a narrow perhaps even bigoted one. But it ran counter to Jinnah's equally narrow vision and curiously even mirrored it in some aspects . Yet Jinnah's ideology has many votaries. Not so in Savarkar's case . At least not at the time of our Independence movement .

That someone held public office . The Hindu Marriage Act which prohibits bigamy was passed in 1954. Karunanidhi was sworn in as CM in 1968-9. His third marriage took place after the HMA was passed. It's pretty rich , isn't it - the CM of a state being on the wrong side of the law.

Besides , I wasn't referring so much to the fact that he had two wives as much as I was referring to the irony of his two wives following Brahminical traditions something that Karunanidhi himself had publicly condemned as irrational and superstitious in accordance with the thoughts of Periyar and his self respect movement .

There is nothing wrong with having extreme views on Tamil language same as savarkar's view of hindustan. They are popular because of their radical views. Same goes of Jihadi mullas. What matter is how you practice them.

So , you end with a whimper after the promise of a bang . Having extreme views on language , religion , ethnicity , etc is acceptable provided the thinkers don't act on it . What was the previous arguement you made about Savarkar and his narrow minded views earlier on in your post all about then ?

 

[Shajida Khan]

Pakistan's main problem was it allowed itself to be used by USA. No sooner did Pakistan got Independence , they went after USA offering it military bases their chief demand was to demolish India and bring back their mythical 1000 year Islamic rule.which was never going to happen. When India asked for assistance in building Institution and Universities like MIT from USA, Pakistan neglected it and went on a weapon purchasing spree,because Pakistan was of having this illusion of 1 Momeen = 15 Kafir Hindus and it was only a matter of time before India gets invaded again Ghazwa-e-Hind. The Americans were too happy to oblige demands of Pakistan.When Americans really wanted India on their side, being a Democracy akin to theirs.


Second mistake Letting NATO use Pakistan as a proxy against USSR, Pakistan society was ok with modernity,General Zia-uL-Haq destroyed all its Scientific temper, colleges, promoted Madarssas which glorified Jihad and started churning out Mujahideens instead of college students. Infact he went a step further and disowned the only Noble Prize winner in Physics, Dr.Abdus Salam, When it was Ahmadi Muslims who actively supported two nation .Now why would you remove a group who wants to be called Muslims. That is called shooting your foot. I wouldn't mind if ISCKON or any other sect wants to be called Hindus and propagate it. That is the core difference between Abrahamic Religions and Sanatana Dharma, we accept you into our fold if you accept us, we don't claim exclusivity and rights to heaven. The concept of Devil, GOD, Heaven and Hell,believer, Infidel only exists in Abrahamic Religions

It is not only my view but several Founding fathers views that Abrahamic Religions are incompatible with Bharat.
Views of Dr. Ambedkar that so called ‘saviours of Dalits’ won’t let the public know

None of this has much to do with my original objection. "If Pakistan followed the right path -- as you mentioned-- of having a religion-centric national identity why the heck it is as divided as it is today and why the heck did it broke in '71." Clearly something is amiss. Clearly religion is not enough for national identity and nation unity and national integrity. Also, it is doubtful if religion has much to do with nation building atleast for the people of the subcontinent.

You know, Pakistan was the first country to yell "Pakistan ka Matlab kya, ....". Didn't go too well for them!

Pages 226-227: “Take the position of women. It is insisted by Muslims that the legal rights given to Muslim women, ensure them a greater measure of independence than allowed to other Eastern women… the Muslim woman is the most helpless person in the world … her fate is ‘once married, always married’. She cannot escape the marriage tie, however irksome it may be. While she cannot repudiate the marriage, the husband can always do it without having to show any cause. Utter the word ‘Talaq’ and observe continence for three weeks and the woman is cast away”

Pgs 230-232: “The Mohamedans observe not only caste but also untouchability. There can thus be no manner of doubt that the Muslim Society in India is afflicted by the same social evils as afflict the Hindu Society. Indeed, the Muslims have all the social evils of the Hindus and something more. That something more is the compulsory system of purdah for Muslim women”

In page 233 he says “The existence of these evils among the Muslims is distressing enough. But far more distressing is the fact that there is no organised movement of social reforms among the Musalmans of India on a scale sufficient to bring about their eradication … The Hindus have their social evils … and a few of them are actively agitating for their removal. The Muslims on the other hand, do not realise that they are evils and consequently do not agitate for their removal. Indeed, they oppose any change in the existing practices.”

His refusal to convert to Christianity and Islam, despite being offered inducements of a large scale by both missionaries and Nizam of Hyderabad, proves that he was against Abrahamic religions. He believed that one would cease to be an Indian if he converted to either of these religions and was in favour of converting to one of the various Indic religions. He asked his followers to do the same stating “I advise my Dalit brothers to convert to Buddhism and avoid conversion to non-Indic religions”. He viewed Abrahamic religions as a threat to national integration and that should put to rest all doubts about his views on either of these religions.

Aren't you confusing two things? Someone's personal disinclination and dislike towards Islam does not automatically mean their inclination towards any other religion including Hinduism or your nabulous term Sanatan Dharm. To remain non-religious can be an equally valid choice. May not be in Ambedkar's time but now it is very much feasible.

My take on religion is this. Religion is a personal thing and a personal choice. Keep it to your person. State should be 'Secular' in true sense. Giving no damn about any religion. Simple!

Jayasree Saranathan: ‘Indian Dharma is Sanatana Dharma’ – Sri Aurobindo



‘Indian Dharma is Sanatana Dharma’ – Sri Aurobindo




During the height of freedom struggle,

Sri Aurobindo was arrested and put into jail where he had soul-searching experience.

The result was that he came out with clearer goals of achieving Nationalism

through Sanatana dharma!

Later he shared his thoughts in a meeting at Uttarpara in Bengal, on 30 May 1909.





This speech is very much suitable for today's India

which is turning anarchist with internal bickering,

thanks to the divide and rule policy of present crop of politicians.

Sri Aurobindo's solution to Unity and development of our country

is to adopt Sanatana dharma as the Dharma of India!


https://www.quora.com/Why-did-Swami...nemy-more-in-Complete-Works-volume-V-page-282
Why did Swami Vivekananda say, "And then every man going out of the Hindu pale is not only a man less, but an enemy more" in Complete Works (volume V, page 282)?

I have many more freedom fighters who supported this idea of a Sanatana Dharmic nation.But alas, Gandhi,Nehru (who called himself being born as Hindu was a mistake)hijacked it and imposed their demands on rest of Hindus.

I didn't mention Ireland. All Eastern European nations, Baltics, Russia has state religion and they are doing just fine. Russia is also diverse, so your argument Secularism is needed for diverse nation like India is a flop. China also had many diverse groups but they are all called a Monolithic group called Hans, it was done by CCP, no such thing was attempted by Secular politicians as it suited their agenda to keep peddling 'Unity in Diversity' so that they are perpetually in power.

In real life a Unit which is uniform, always triumphs, a diverse hodgepodge mixture will break up very soon.
A chain is only as strong as its weakest link
A Uniform chain is always stronger than a curry mixture chain link.

And why are you quoting these?

 

[Aravind]

None of this has much to do with my original objection. "If Pakistan followed the right path -- as you mentioned-- of having a religion-centric national identity why the heck it is as divided as it is today with Balochis and Pakhtoons cursing Punjabis for stealing their natural resources and vice-versa. and why the heck did it broke in '71. Clearly something was amiss. Clearly religion is not enough for national identity and nation unity and national integrity. Also, it is doubtful if religion has much to do with nation building atleast for the people of the subcontinent.

I will tell you why, remember why they promoted Wahabis over others. That was Pakistan's problem,
Jayasree Saranathan: ‘Indian Dharma is Sanatana Dharma’ – Sri Aurobindo
If you can please follow, the link above, you will understand 'We are the Children of Righteousness and We are the Bulwark against Injustice/Adharma, so it is incumbent upon us to fight and keep Adharma/Injustice away. That is Sanatana Dharma ( Eternal Religion/ Righteousness)

 

[Shajida Khan]

I will tell you why, remember why they promoted Wahabis over others. That was Pakistan's problem,
Jayasree Saranathan: ‘Indian Dharma is Sanatana Dharma’ – Sri Aurobindo
If you can please follow, the link above, you will understand 'We are the Children of Righteousness and We are the Bulwark against Injustice/Adharma, so it is incumbent upon us to fight and keep Adharma/Injustice away. That is Sanatana Dharma ( Eternal Religion/ Righteousness)

You are not getting it. Let me break it down for you.

1. You claim that India should have a 'Sanatan Dharm' as national religion because having a state religion is good for national integrity and eliminates corrupt leaders.

2. We have a counter example of a nation which is/was very similar to us, very near to us and who adopted a national identity based on religion. Yet it is divided, it is having some very corrupt leaders, its politics is equally dirty as India if not dirtier. And to top it all it was broken into two due to a internal conflict!

How do you reconcile the above two points?

 

[Shajida Khan]

I didn't mention Ireland. All Eastern European nations, Baltics, Russia has state religion and they are doing just fine. Russia is also diverse, so your argument Secularism is needed for diverse nation like India is a flop. China also had many diverse groups but they are all called a Monolithic group called Hans, it was done by CCP, no such thing was attempted by Secular politicians as it suited their agenda to keep peddling 'Unity in Diversity' so that they are perpetually in power.

Russia today does not have a state religion. Please provide your sources that suggest it does.

Religion in Russia -- Thats Russian embassy website.

It does have a Russian orthodox church but its not a government body. Analogous for India will be Sankracharya Math IIRC. It is a seat for religious body for majority religion in the country. In soviet times it was actually anti religious.

Leaving Russia most of the eastern european nations are small and homogenous, so not exactly something you can fit to India.

'Han' identity is a non-religious one. It actually derives its name from Han dynasty and encompasses most of ethnic Chinese. The closest analog to 'Han' will be 'Bhartiya' or 'Indian'.

 

[Aravind]

You are not getting it. Let me break it down for you.

1. You claim that India should have a 'Sanatan Dharm' as national religion because having a state religion is good for national integrity and eliminates corrupt leaders.

2. We have a counter example of a nation which is/was very similar to us, very near to us and who adopted a national identity based on religion. Yet it is divided, it is having some very corrupt leaders, its politics is equally dirty as India if not dirtier. And to top it all it was broken into two due to a internal conflict!

How do you reconcile the above two points?

Mataji, This was our founding fathers beliefs,
I live beside a Muslim colony called Mohammedguda. etc. So i know the reality Mataji. Please don't tell me i got less interactions with Muslims.

1. I only ask for Dharma/ Righteousness. Anyone Dharmic is my Bretheren. Please did you read what i posed before ?
2. LOL Pakistan ain't BHARAT. We are
Janani Janma-bhoomi-scha Swargadapi Gariyasi" (Devanagari: जननी जन्मभूमिश्च स्वर्गादपि गरीयसी.)
Mother and Motherland are more than Heaven. For our Lord RAM, Jai Hanuman

 

[Aravind]

Russia today does not have a state religion. Please provide your sources that suggest it does.

Religion in Russia -- Thats Russian embassy website.

It does have a Russian orthodox church but its not a government body. Analogous for India will be Sankracharya Math IIRC. It is a seat for religious body for majority religion in the country. In soviet times it was actually anti religious.

Leaving Russia most of the eastern european nations are small and homogenous, so not exactly something you can fit to India.

'Han' identity is a non-religious one. It actually derives its name from Han dynasty and encompasses most of ethnic Chinese. The closest analog to 'Han' will be 'Bhartiya' or 'Indian'.

LOL, I lived years in Baltic states, go ahead ask me,
I can converse in romanian, Italian, Latin too....
Ahh... there you go Russian Orthodox is a body which was scared and mowed down sites of ISCKON TEMPLES In Russia.When GOI made a deal with Russia to allow building of a Orthodox Christian Church in INDIA, but Russiasns went back on their promises and denied us a place for SRI KRISHNAS TEMPLE.

 

[Guynextdoor]

India’s GDP growth seen decelerating to 6.5% in 2017-18 from 7.1% in 2016-17

Indian economy in 2017: The year the economy tanked

@dray what blasphemy! The article says that quality of growth was bs no matter what the numbers say! Bro sue them!

 

[Guynextdoor]

Identifying the real hidden adversary is half the battle, Dalit leaders have rightly identified BJP-RSS-VHP-corporates as their adversary. Shiv Sena is just a regional party of cultivators, the truth is BJP-RSS hates Shivsena and vice-versa. Both Shivsena and Dalits recognize BJP as their common adversary.
Shiv Sena Trying to Revive Anti-Gujarati Sentiment to Counter BJP? - The Quint
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By targeting the RSS-BJP-corporates... they are going straight for the jugular... >> the corporates interests behind BJP...

Jignesh Mevani not responsible for Bhima-Koregaon violence: Ramdas Athawale

Timesnow and Arnab Goswami(Republic) has emerged as the most shamelessly pro-RSS-BJP channels.

You have mistaken. It is not corporations that are the enemy. They have proven themselves as neutral with profit motive. It is the small business in rural areas with need for plenty of cheap workers ready to do unclean jobs which collaborate on the oppression project.

 

[Shajida Khan]

Mataji

AINT YOUR MAMMA, BOY

This was our founding fathers beliefs,

Who are these founding father, may I ask? Certainly Ambedkar was not in favour of making India a 'Sanatan Dharm' republic. Neither was Patel who hated the word 'Hindustan'. Gandhi was deeply hurt by partition and was not exactly in favour of making a Hindu Rashtra.

I live beside a Muslim colony called Mohammedguda. etc. So i know the reality Mataji. Please don't tell me i got less interactions with Muslims.

I don't doubt where you live and how much interaction you have with Muslims. What does it have to do with anything?

1. I only ask for Dharma/ Righteousness. Anyone Dharmic is my Bretheren. Please did you read what i posed before ?

'Righteousness' according to whom? Who defines what is right? Is this something that is discussed and deliberated and agreed upon or something that is privately revealed or read from a scripture?

2. LOL Pakistan ain't BHARAT. We are
Janani Janma-bhoomi-scha Swargadapi Gariyasi" (Devanagari: जननी जन्मभूमिश्च स्वर्गादपि गरीयसी.)
Mother and Motherland are more than Heaven. For our Lord RAM, Jai Hanuman

Among all the nations, Pakistan and Bangladesh are the most similar to us. It shouldn't be a surprise because they came out of the same political entity.

BTW, You are still avoiding the question. How do you reconcile the idea that 'State religion keeps the nation together' with the fact 'A nation that is too similar to us got dismembered and is divided ever since even after having state religion'. Honestly you have no point here.

 

[Shajida Khan]

LOL, I lived years in Baltic states, go ahead ask me,
I can converse in romanian, Italian, Latin too....
Ahh... there you go Russian Orthodox is a body which was scared and mowed down sites of ISCKON TEMPLES In Russia.When GOI made a deal with Russia to allow building of a Orthodox Christian Church in INDIA, but Russiasns went back on their promises and denied us a place for SRI KRISHNAS TEMPLE.

I have no issues you being well travelled. My point is simple though :-

1. Is Russia having a State Religion? Yes or No. I say no and I ask you to provide evidence to the contrary or an acceptance that you are wrong.
2. How do you apply what works in small homogenous countries of Balcans and East Europe in a huge diverse country such as India. Different contexts different solutions.

 

[Guynextdoor]

How am i a bad influence? Because i told my family, You Vote for BJP ,WE HIndus get taken cared of.
YOU OFFER ME BETTER I WILL VOTE FOR YOU.

Vote aap

 

[Aravind]

I have no issues you being well travelled. My point is simple though :-

1. Is Russia having a State Religion? Yes or No. I say no and I ask you to provide evidence to the contrary or an acceptance that you are wrong.
2. How do you apply what works in small homogenous countries of Balcans and East Europe in a huge diverse country such as India. Different contexts different solutions.

READ #157
Yes RUSSIA DOES ARE YOU NAIVE? THE ORTHODOX Christian Church is the new PRUSSIAN EMPIRE i told you why before...!
2. Small is how you expand... You dont understand strategy do you?

 

[Shajida Khan]

READ #157
Yes RUSSIA DOES ARE YOU NAIVE? THE ORTHODOX Christian Church is the new PRUSSIAN EMPIRE i told you why before...!

If you think that Russian Orthodox Church is 'State Religion' then we can also agree that 'Kanchipuram Math' is already a 'State Religion' of India and nothing further needs to be done. So be happy! You are already living in your desired state!

2. Small is how you expand... You dont understand strategy do you?

Not everything which is small grows or expand. I guess you are new to the concept of being scalable.

 

[Aravind]

If you think that Russian Orthodox Church is 'State Religion' then we can also agree that 'Kanchipuram Math' is already a 'State Religion' of India and nothing further needs to be done. So be happy!

Not everything which is small grows or expand. I guess you are new to the concept of being scalable.

Are you naive? i gave enough indications for you, yet you chose the route to Insult me.
There was just one swami Shri Adi Shankaraacharya who established Sanatana Dharma.. '
You don't know the concept of evolution, YOU ABRAHAMIC RELIGIONS WILL BE STUCK ONLY THERE!
While we Hindus question "Who am I"???
Do you understand that Tatva of Bhraman? " NA BHUTO NA BHAVISYHYATI!
you cannot question your Religion we can. As we are Seekers of Knowledge, WE CAN QUESTION EVEN YOUR GOD! DID your GOD EVER SAY OR answer back is the question?

 

[smestarz]

Are you talking about Smriti Irani or you are confused?
I do assume you talk about Smriti Irani, and you can see how many debates she participated in Parliament and on TV, and do compare it with the interview of the then VP of Congress party who when asked about any question would answer about Namo or woman empowerment.
It is still one of the best funny video for me. You do surely show trend of the same.. I can say with 99.99% of certainity that you are purely RaGa supporter, and it all runs in your family. Happy going at that.

BTW, i do not agree trying to get Ayurveda doctors practicing allopathy, but then even a pharmacist is not giving medicines based on your symptoms.. Even people are self medicating. how cool is that ?

So, if I do interpolate your question that who would i prefer to be treated by.. An Allopathy doctor who failed few times and then somehow passed (irrespective of his caste) or An Ayurveda Vaidya who is practicing Allopathy (with his caste not in question) ,, It would be neither, I would prefer my nephew who has finished his medical education last year.. And I sure know that he deserved the seat. So its all about capability.
BTW you did not answer the last part of my question.,

Would you get say your heart surgery done by person who failed few times and fianlly passed and became a doctor , its not a rhetorical question. Lets say the Surgeon is RaGa ..

You you weren’t putting sass Bahujan type people in charge of hrd, you might actually be putting in place people who INCREASE the number of medical colleges.instead you’ve got idiots trying to get Ayurveda doctors to practice allopathy

 

[smestarz]

Thats the best you can get to? Raga Team B?

Vote aap

 

[Shajida Khan]

Are you naive? i gave enough indications for you, yet you chose the route to Insult me.

If there is any one who is insulting you, its you yourself.

I merely asked a simple question. What is the source of your assertion that Russia has a state religion? And you buckled up so fast that it was hilarious! Anyways.

There was just one swami Shri Adi Shankaraacharya who established Sanatana Dharma.. '

And? Your point being?

You don't know the concept of evolution, YOU ABRAHAMIC RELIGIONS WILL BE STUCK ONLY THERE!

I am well aware of concept of Evolution via Natural Selection, thank you!
'Abrahamic Religion' have evolved quite a bit since antiquity. The issue is you consider religion --atleast Abrahmic ones-- as something which written in the book. Most of us practice it and the practices now are very different than what was say 200 years back. For example, we do not exactly kill anyone and everyone who choose to leave Islamic faith, actually that pretty rare these days or christians do not exactly stone an adultrous person to death.

Remember this, religions are not text, not revealed messages. They are essentially practices. And practices evolved over time, no matter what the book says.

While we Hindus question "Who am I"???
Do you understand that Tatva of Bhraman? " NA BHUTO NA BHAVISYHYATI!
you cannot question your Religion we can. As we are Seekers of Knowledge, WE CAN QUESTION EVEN YOUR GOD! DID your GOD EVER SAY OR answer back is the question?

Doesn't matter.
The philosophical underpinning of Sanatan Dharam are of no use to us. We simply don't share them. But you are free to ponder on them.

What I believe though is that you cannot or rather you should not be able to shove it down anyone and everyone's throat. Those who want to share these will take it themselves while others will not. Not very hard, right?

And honestly, for most of 'us' this thinking about 'God' comes very last in the priority. We have more pressing matters to take care of. Like education, jobs, houses, food. You know the boring and essential ones. Religion is more of an afterthought.

 

[Infowarrior]

You have mistaken. It is not corporations that are the enemy. They have proven themselves as neutral with profit motive. It is the small business in rural areas with need for plenty of cheap workers ready to do unclean jobs which collaborate on the oppression project.

Yes most corporations are neutral in profit motive, but some of them are definitely using Hindutwa to divert attention. For example Adani is using Hindutwa in Tribal areas to clear any opposition to it's mining activities.


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Meet the Tribal Woman in Coimbatore Who Is Standing Up to Isha Foundation
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Still waiting for hearing on Isha Foundation’s illegal construction in TN: Activists

Not just abduction charges, Isha Yoga centre also in the dock for environmental violations

History and reality is very complicated... I will give an example...
East India company banned Christian protestant missionaries in India 1783-1813, because they feared that this will lead more educated and assertive Indians. Sati was onlt prevalent in Rajasthan and some parts of western India. But Sati was projected as pan India social evil, actually a propoganda that missionaries where spreading in the west to overturn this ban. This ban was revoked in 1813, conversions were one of the reasons stated for 1857 revolt. Some missionaries were killed in this revolt, East India company then created propaganda in England about Indians killing Missionaries, hence Indians not fit for conversions.
"The Epic of the Race": The Indian Uprisings of 1857
BBC NEWS | South Asia | Indian mutiny was 'war of religion'

Right now many corporates like TATA and Essar are using the same approach of East India company and it is using Hindutwa to keep tribals backward and poor. I'm sure Smriti Irani(parsi) is sponsored by Tatas.
Untold Story of Hindukaran (Proselytisation) of ADIVASI (TRIBAL) in DANG: A Report – Indian Cultural Forum
Maharashtra govt ‘diverts’ 460 hectares of tribal land near Mumbai for industries
These areas, deep inside the forests and over the hills, were inaccessible for others and continued to remain so for over a century thereafter. The post-independence era saw a shift in priorities of the government towards settlement of the tribals. The Land Revenue Act was amended to provide for the return of land, acquired by non-tribals without the prior permission of the collector, back to the tribal.

A common complaint among the missionaries has been that the provision has been misused by digging out the roots of the ownership of lands in their possession to the ancestors of the present generation of the tribals. If the reopening of cases and the resultant slew of litigation is seen by the Christians as harassment, the tribal – read Christian - descendants of the original owners see virtue in siding with the state.

The missionaries have a much larger land bank in their possession in the north of state including Jashpur and Sarguja districts. Yet, significantly, the confrontation linked to the ownership of land is more pronounced in the south – in Bastar where the government has signed significant MOUs with the likes of Tatas and Essars and has failed so far to acquire and hand over the huge tracts of promised land.
Hindutva targeting of Christians in Chhattisgarh over conversions really about land? - Firstpost

Due to reservations many tribals are getting educated and have jobs, now it is upon these tribal youth to lead their people. Now if they have fate they will form their own political party, learn farming=value of land, cooperative mining=grab business from Adani and Essar etc...

http://www.thehindu.com/elections/g...-opens-account-in-gujarat/article21839930.ece
http://www.hindustantimes.com/citie...r-education/story-qVFzy3U01QtcOfm72cUsQJ.html

http://www.apnlive.com/india-news/a...y-alliance-wins-hyderabad-varsity-polls-27901
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/...an-jawaharlal-nehru-university/1/1061877.html
http://www.newindianexpress.com/nat...nt-union-polls-in-madhya-pradesh-1687455.html

Meghalaya is a Tribal state with 85% ST population. Clearly BJP can never expect to woo a Tribal state if it is sincere about anti-reservation(Kamandal). ST cut off is the lowest and they don't even have to pay fees. Highest beneficiary of Mandal are the Tribals.