Israel-Hamas Conflict: Updates & Discussions
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Details Of Israel's Long-Range Strike That Decimated Yemeni Port Emerge
Israeli fighters used man-in-the-loop guided weapons to destroy the Houthi-controlled port of Hudaydah's only large overhead dock cranes.
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IAF explained yesterday that this drone was detected but due to a human error it was not destroyed.
I don't see a cloudy future for Israel with Houthis.
Sole solution used by east EU country (as Hungary, Poland...) : stop migration.
Let all that monkeys with themselves in Africa or Middle east.
One problem, there's not going to be a Hamas post war.
Hamas announces 'national unity' deal with Palestinian rivals
Beijing (AFP) July 23, 2024 - Hamas announced Tuesday it had signed an agreement in Beijing with other Palestinian organisations including rivals Fatah to work together for national unity, with China describing it as a deal to rule Gaza together once the war ends.
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Ship Security Team Appears To Detonate Explosive-Laden Houthi Drone Boat With Gunfire
An embarked security team fired about two dozen shots at the approaching Houthi drone boat, with it exploding just before it could cause any damage.
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I really hope so !One problem, there's not going to be a Hamas post war.
Hamas announces 'national unity' deal with Palestinian rivals
Beijing (AFP) July 23, 2024 - Hamas announced Tuesday it had signed an agreement in Beijing with other Palestinian organisations including rivals Fatah to work together for national unity, with China describing it as a deal to rule Gaza together once the war ends.www.spacewar.com
These countries are directly providing arms to attack Russia, thus they are directly involved. Iran and Houthis can do the same. You cant dictate who can join in a conflict. Imagine afghanistan calling foul for anyone other than US joining fight.
So if a militia in a ungoverned country attacks another that give right to invade? I thought sovereignty is sacrosanct.
According to which international law was the invasion of Iraq carried out again? Dont tell me they poked bush first.
Still waiting for "1 million children" claim, buddy. Made-up statistics and Wikipedia pages couldn't even come close to that.
More Than 700,000 Ukrainian Children Taken To Russia Since Full-Scale War Started, Official Says
Russian children's commissioner Maria Lvova-Belova has said that more than 700,000 Ukrainian children have been taken from Ukraine to Russia since the start of the Russian invasion of Ukraine.www.rferl.org
Child abductions in the Russo-Ukrainian War - Wikipedia
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Again with this kindergarten-level argument, "they attacked first." That does not give you the right to bomb hospitals and destroy civilian infrastructure.Hamas attacked first, so lets see their leader have his day in court first, along with the leaders of Hamas's backers who ordered this war. Then we will discuss the trial of Netanyahu, although currently no ICJ arrest warrant has been issued. In fact, I think Putin's arrest warrant was issued first, so it's Putin's trial, then the Hamas leader's trial in order. If India arrests Putin and Hamas faces trial and an ICJ arrest warrant is issued for Netanyahu, then it will be executed.
As if an arrest warrant makes any difference.
Just like the destruction of the Taliban?
Russia agreed to that when it signed the Budapest Memorandum, it's written in black and white that we would provide assistance. I think the issue here is that you're complaining the response is disproportionate in case you suffer from Amnesia. The Houthis have launched 200 attacks against civilian targets in Israel. Israel blew up their oil terminal and it would be entitled to do a lot more. The Houthis have also attacked civilian shipping from dozens of different uninvolved nations, Israel hit their port. Furthermore, the whole war started because Hamas attacked Israel. The Houthis can indeed choose to join a war, but that means they forfit the right to not have the hell bombed out of them.
It's sacrosanct until you attack someone, especially if that attack kills 1,000+ people. All nations have the right to take the necessary steps to defend themselves from such actions and the future occurrence of such, which in this case means wiping out Hamas and in the case of Afghanistan meant wiping out Al-Quaeda. Many nations would currently have the right to invade Yemen and wipe out the Houthis. The Houthis should consider that fact very carefully. What? Do you expect people to sit back and put up with militias from 'ungoverned' regions (that want to be recognised as states
) killing thousands of their citizens and do nothing?The law of nine-stitches - they should have made the one stitch in 1991. Like it or not the UN sanctions were killing people indirectly and Saddam was killing people directly, that was driving recruitment for Al-Quaeda, which posed a threat to many countries. Saddam had also committed a million war crimes... use of chemical weapons on civilians, torture of civilians, hostages and PoWs, hostage takings, unprovoked invasion of Kuwait, deliberate environmental damage... etc. Should we allow someone to break all these international laws and get away with it? If so, what is the point in having the law? Enforcement of international law was the reason.
Okay 744,000. It's ballpark at least, unlike your bullshit.
The sad legacy of Russian orphans lies behind Putin's troops kidnapping tens of thousands of Ukrainian children
The co-author of “Russia’s Abandoned Children: An Intimate Understanding,” says it dates back to the Soviet myth that all children got excellent care.
You should read international law on warfare more clearly. If an otherwise civilian structure is being used for a military purpose, it ceases to be a military structure. That said, Israel's maths on acceptable collateral levels are somewhat outside those of NATO.
Whilst we're on the subject of rights and law, you should check out the 1951 Refugee Convention. It states that all the civilians should have been evacuated via Egypt about 9 months ago. Imagine if Ukraine had left Bakhmut, Soledar and Avdiivka fully populated. All these civilians are forced to remain in Gaza because they're the only defence against Israeli bombs that Hamas has and many of the nations making humanitarian accusations know this full well, and are exploiting the fact prolifically. You want to complain, evacuate them to India. That should be the first response to any nations/citizens complaining. People would rather set up dubious charities and UN organisations in Gaza than evacuate a single person, tell me I'm wrong.
Well it didn't for India when Putin visited, that's for sure, Mr. Western Hypocrisy.
The goal was to destroy Al-Quaeda, don't see Bin Laden about, don't see any 9/11-sized attacks. Killing the Taliban would mean killing everybody, it's possible obviously, but people would complain too much.
@Ashwin - Also going to point out that the Houthis started the game of targeting oil facilities 5 years ago.
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Abqaiq–Khurais attack - Wikipedia
Netanyahu calls for demilitarized, deradicalized post-war Gaza
Washington (AFP) July 24, 2024 - Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu called Wednesday for a demilitarized and deradicalized post-war Gaza, laying out his vision for the narrow coastal territory devastated by nine months of war.
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Hamas leader is a HUGE deal because of where he was killed and how... they are saying it was some air strike whether by missile, drone or aircraft they are not saying however if it's one of those three Iran will have no choice but to retaliate strong. Israel has a lot of agents in Iran I always thought it would be by car bomb or ambush which would likely keep Iran from a missile retaliation.
I hope an F-35I was the cause... haters would have no choice but to respect.
Hamas leader is a HUGE deal because of where he was killed and how... they are saying it was some air strike whether by missile, drone or aircraft they are not saying however if it's one of those three Iran will have no choice but to retaliate strong. Israel has a lot of agents in Iran I always thought it would be by car bomb or ambush which would likely keep Iran from a missile retaliation.
I hope an F-35I was the cause... haters would have no choice but to respect.
This idiot was living in qatar & came to tehran for presidential inauguration. Qatar is something very close to iran with american military base.
Very fact they dint take him out in qatar but they did it in iran sends a big message to iran.
Very fact they dint take him out in qatar but they did it in iran sends a big message to iran.
The "how" he was taken out is very important. If it was done by agents using IED's or anti-tank missile Iran may not be able to respond the way it would like but if it was a missile, drone or aircraft then Iran has no choice but to respond like the last time it attacked Israel.