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China has already started withdrawing from Afghanistan.


Intelligence online already did a piece on it. But it is behind the paywall. What they reported first was then carried over to other mainstream media.

The economic crisis in China is much worse than what's being let out on MSM & SM . This coupled with Xi's own troubles within the CCP is not good news at all.

If the problem with Iran continues , it'd have a cascading effect across economies around the world including China impacting exports to begin with apart from inflation blowing up.

Remember the CCP has artificially controlled both inflation & kept the exchange rate low on the Yuan preventing it's appreciation . That's how they've built up this formidable export machinery. It costs a lot to keep both inflation down & to prevent the Yuan from appreciating.

All this is being unravelled very rapidly. If this trend continues for a few months , I won't be surprised to see China wracked with internal protests for the social contract between the CCP & their citizens starts coming undone.

How the CCP under Xi will respond will bear careful scrutiny ! Don't be surprised if China begins some sort of adventurism in the neighborhood. Taiwan or LAC ? Take your pick.
 

The economic crisis in China is much worse than what's being let out on MSM & SM . This coupled with Xi's own troubles within the CCP is not good news at all.

If the problem with Iran continues , it'd have a cascading effect across economies around the world including China impacting exports to begin with apart from inflation blowing up.

Remember the CCP has artificially controlled both inflation & kept the exchange rate low on the Yuan preventing it's appreciation . That's how they've built up this formidable export machinery. It costs a lot to keep both inflation down & to prevent the Yuan from appreciating.

All this is being unravelled very rapidly. If this trend continues for a few months , I won't be surprised to see China wracked with internal protests for the social contract between the CCP & their citizens starts coming undone.

How the CCP under Xi will respond will bear careful scrutiny ! Don't be surprised if China begins some sort of adventurism in the neighborhood. Taiwan or LAC ? Take your pick.


How did you come to that conclusion in the last paragraph? That usually applies to Pakistan.

I thought China is like 90 percent Han Chinese, there is no insurgency inside China like in Pakistan and I assumed China is not an insecure state like Pakistan

Regarding that debt, Pakistan is never settling it's debt with China. 26 Billion USD 😂
 
How did you come to that conclusion in the last paragraph? That usually applies to Pakistan.
Are you really unacquainted with Mao's decision to attack India in 1962 to deflect criticism of his disastrous handling of The 5 Pests Campaign & The Great Leap Forward & the nearly 50-100 million deaths due to the man made famines caused by those events ?

Moving on to 1969 Ussuri River Clashes with the former USSR was also as a result of The Cultural Revolution which in turn was initiated to keep Mao in power.

It's not as if both these incidents rested solely on Mao's intention to create external diversions to tide over internal problems , there were other underlying reasons to it too . However the reasons forwarded by me happen to play a great role in getting Mao to initiate those border conflicts.

Hence Xi choosing to take a leaf out of Mao's book to initiate something on the borders is definitely a possibility to be considered in case the internal situation in China turns out to be too hot for him to handle .
I thought China is like 90 percent Han Chinese, there is no insurgency inside China
Why do you think the Uighurs are being treated the way they are assuming you're aware of this development ?! The Tibetans are also under the scanner though they're no longer in rebellion mode like they used to be earlier.
like in Pakistan and I assumed China is not an insecure state like Pakistan
The CCP & it's top leadership has always been paranoid . That's the hallmark of all totalitarian regimes . This attribute in turn gets transferred down the line & manifests itself in wars in extreme scenarios.
Regarding that debt, Pakistan is never settling it's debt with China. 26 Billion USD 😂
Eventually they'd have to . It's either Paxtan or its successor states.
 
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nah they wont, the CCP will just continue to squeeze them to eventually kick out the Americans from pakistan. They need pakistan to act as a dog to keep India vigilant. Why else would they give them the J35 and the KJ 500 and the HQ19.
Then I'm confident you've no clue what you're talking about especially w.r.t the Chinese. No country forgives debts least of all the Chinese.

Read reports UK had repaid it's debts as part of the lend lease arrangement with the US as late as 2006. That's more than 60 years after the end of WW-2.

The United Kingdom made its final repayment for the post-war loans used to settle Lend-Lease debts to the United States on December 29, 2006. While the original Lend-Lease materials were largely written off in 1945, the UK took out a 1946 Anglo-American loan to purchase remaining goods, paying off this final debt over 60 years later.

Both the US & China are using Paxtan against India. However that has no bearing on their commercial transactions. In fact Paxtan prefers the west especially the US for they're known to have given aid to Paxtan & have been very generous in that apart from providing arms packages either free or at very nominal rates.

Not so the Chinese who provide no aid whatsoever & charge good a good amount as interest besides selling arms on credit.
 
Then I'm confident you've no clue what you're talking about especially w.r.t the Chinese. No country forgives debts least of all the Chinese.

Read reports UK had repaid it's debts as part of the lend lease arrangement with the US as late as 2006. That's more than 60 years after the end of WW-2.



Both the US & China are using Paxtan against India. However that has no bearing on their commercial transactions. In fact Paxtan prefers the west especially the US for they're known to have given aid to Paxtan & have been very generous in that apart from providing arms packages either free or at very nominal rates.

Not so the Chinese who provide no aid whatsoever & charge good a good amount as interest besides selling arms on credit.
yes ofc they will squeeze pakistan by the balls but they wont abandon pakistan or push them to the brink of bankruptcy(tbf pakistan is enough on its own). Nobody wants a completely destabilized pakistan. They will just slowly extract the people for all their worth, at the end of the day, thats all pakistan is good for to china. Resource to be extracted.
 
yes ofc they will squeeze pakistan by the balls but they wont abandon pakistan or push them to the brink of bankruptcy(tbf pakistan is enough on its own). Nobody wants a completely destabilized pakistan. They will just slowly extract the people for all their worth, at the end of the day, thats all pakistan is good for to china. Resource to be extracted.
All those grand calculations don't work beyond a point. Paxtan is teetering on the brink. From the west's PoV the fact that Paxtan is a N power has more bearing than the fact that they hold nuisance value especially as far as India is concerned .

Eventually if Paxtan starts coming apart horizontally & vertically like it is happening, the first thing that will happen is to secure their NWP from the west's PoV.

Beyond that they're really not bothered what happens to Paxtan.