A Little Banter - Thread
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Nowhere to launch them from in the UK, except Scotland and you know what the Scottish are like. My point was, why do you need all this foreign assistance for everything when you're launching satellites? Usually people learn to build fighter jets before spaceships.
We make Su30 in HAL. Though the design is Russian, we make all the parts here like engine, radar, airframe, avionics etc. India used to make MiG21 in 1970s too, again with Russian technology transfer. Now, India has made Tejas plane and engine is arriving in 2 years.
India chooses to get assistance to leapfrog by understanding the technology and then replicating it easily. The most important aspect of any technology is the idea and by getting assistance, ideas are obtained in a short cut
So, we still launched a satellite in the late 1960s, at a time when the closest you got to lift off was a bad curry.I don't see the French making such excuses. Oh and somebody had a launchpad in Australia from where they launched some you rockets with pathetically underpowered engines. And that's as far as their space program went...
France has more space.
The fact you've been doing this from MiG-21 to Su-30 to Rafale should prompt some questions about exactly when domestic design will take over.
The point here is that India manufactures the MiG21, Su30 as if they were Indian. Rafale is not manufactured by India. Russia gave full ToT and hence there was very little reason to make Indian design. Now there is a need and it is already made. Tejas Mk1 is under production already
French did find space for launch site outside europe but biggest colonial looter cant? or maybe UK is too depended on others and developed a lazy habit of blaming them for its own stupidity.
We made our first fighter in the sixties. Don't know how you missed. Too obsessed with french uh?
Because we choose it to be that way. We proved we could do it 40 years ago. All Black Arrow rockets were launched from Woomera in Australia. There is no place in the UK to do it.
'Proved' what ? That you could launch a toy rocket ? Start-ups make those these days- case in point, electron from NZ.
You could still lease land from the 'commonwealth'. Or grab land from natives as you did in Diego Garcia.
And guess what will happen if your GNSS program ever materializes ?
'Euro'fighter Typhoon.
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Which fighter was that? Indian design? The Marut with British engines.
We've already launched satellites but there isn't an economic case for maintaining our own launch capability.
Black Arrow launched Prospero.
Yes, it will work.
Not much Euro about it mate. British airframe design, British engines, developed by Britain during the '80s when the other partners were having a vacation. British developed radar and EW and IRST.
Tejas is little more than a trainer jet. You still see foreign designs for all the proper fighter jets and their engines.
How many other nations were launching satellites in the 1960s? 3?I don't see the French making such excuses. Oh and somebody had a launchpad in Australia from where they launched some you rockets with pathetically underpowered engines. And that's as far as their space program went...
No it isn't. The EJ200 is entirely based on the Rolls-Royce XG40 - do your research. Eurojet is just there to make everybody feel included.That's cute. Eurofighter is using a europian engine. Your entire military is imported. Even your deterrence depend on a third party.
Lets not go down on that road.
So French had a better economy?
Myth. Whilst it uses a foreign SLBM, it is entirely under UK control and the warhead and submarine is British.
No, there just isn't the money to justify doing it but some people just do it anyway. Landing on the moon wasn't exactly based on an economic model either. The money is in making the satellites.
Why? Just because Germany doesn't maintain any of its air force. Germany is a shit partner for fighter jets. France will enjoy working with them.
