AMCA flush air data system under testing on LCA drop tank.
I can only be as sure as the DRDO's publications. So far the frequency range of the TSA antennas meant for the AMCA seem to be consistent in different publications, DefExpo & Aero India shows. Keep in mind there are other TSA antennas being developed for other uses besides the AMCA. The application area of TSA antennas seem to be wide ranging; from jammers to volume scan & targeting radars. It is not known if the other TSA antennas are swappable with the AMCA's antennas.@Gautam are you sure about the frequency range of shared apertures that will be used in AMCA as distributed sensors.
The entire point behind body flush antennas is they don't need FSS radomes. There are 3 ways of reducing RCS: shaping, RAM/FSS & coatings. Body flush antennas conform to the stealthy shape of the aircraft to reduce their RCS. Thus there is no need for RAM/FSS. Coatings are used on body flush antennas as it is very thin and don't hinder the performance of the antennas. But RAM/FSS will effect the performance, thus if it is not needed it is best avoided.Wouldn't they also require wide band FSS.
So it's DAS will not be passive I.e based on EO system. They were developing dual band detectors so it make sense to utilize it on making MAWS too.AMCA's DAS will use ultra-wide band TSA antennas.
The DAS will have active elements. I believe this is what the AMCA's project director meant when he said that the fighter will have 6th gen technologies so it will be a 5.5 gen fighter. His words not mine.So it's DAS will not be passive I.e based on EO system.
MAWS ? MAWS are based on IR/Visible light sensors. I think you mean RWRs. Those functionalities will be built in on the AMCA's side arrays. Jammers are most effective when they are directed and not broadcasted unidirectionally. The side array jammers will be directed jammers, why else would you need to mount them on the sides ? You can just mount a central jammer and blast EM waves in all directions, but that won't be very effective. For proper direction of jammers there must be EM waves detection and ranging capabilities built in to detect enemy radars/seekers. That is what a RWR does.They were developing dual band detectors so it make sense to utilize it on making MAWS too.
I am talking about f35 type DAS made up of dual band IR detectors since there will be MAWS in AMCA giving 360° coverage so why not make it DAS.The DAS will have active elements. I believe this is what the AMCA's project director meant when he said that the fighter will have 6th gen technologies so it will be a 5.5 gen fighter. His words not mine.
MAWS ? MAWS are based on IR/Visible light sensors. I think you mean RWRs. Those functionalities will be built in on the AMCA's side arrays. Jammers are most effective when they are directed and not broadcasted unidirectionally. The side array jammers will be directed jammers, why else would you need to mount them on the sides ? You can just mount a central jammer and blast EM waves in all directions, but that won't be very effective. For proper direction of jammers there must be EM waves detection and ranging capabilities built in to detect enemy radars/seekers. That is what a RWR does.
How effective the side arrays will be as in RWR role will depend on the speed at which the arrays can detect enemy radars and direct their jamming signals. LDRE has plenty of experience of making quick reacting radars given their work on the BMD and various other AD programs. Can they fit in such functionalities on the small size of a side array remains to be seen. DRDO should probably start working on some advanced chaffs like BriteCloud.
Either way it seems threats from radar guided missiles are well taken care of. It is the IR seeking missiles that worry me. DRDO has made no attempts yet to develop a DIRCM system or advanced flares. As things are now it seems their plan is to continue using a version of the older Phosphorus/Magnesium based flares. IR seekers globally are widening their detection bandwidth to N-IR and VN-IR. Soon enough the older flares wont be enough. However, flare systems are incredibly modular, so they can start work later and can plug new types of flares in older launch cases. So DRDO does have time in hand for the flares, not so for the DIRCM. DIRCMs are not modular, need to be externally mounted and take up significant amount of onboard power. If they chose to get one late it will stall the AMCA project, if they don't get one then the AMCA will have no additional protection from IR seeking missiles or MANPADS.
AMCA's DAS will probably have 360 coverage. Whether it will be dual band or not remains to be seen. DRDO & VEM Tech have developed some dual band IR sensors for UAVs and seekers. Maybe those sensors can be modified for DAS usage.I am talking about f35 type DAS made up of dual band IR detectors since there will be MAWS in AMCA giving 360° coverage so why not make it DAS.
So it will have active as well as passive 360° situational awareness.AMCA's DAS will probably have 360 coverage. Whether it will be dual band or not remains to be seen. DRDO & VEM Tech have developed some dual band IR sensors for UAVs and seekers. Maybe those sensors can be modified for DAS usage.
Don't know. Depends on the internal space & electric power available for the side arrays. Separate antennas take up a lot of space but is more efficient in terms of power and cooling. Distributed sensors use much less space but are inefficient in power management and cooling.Regarding side array jammer can't these distributed sensors act as one just like in su 57 or it will be a separate antenna.
Well they are developing advanced flare.The DAS will have active elements. I believe this is what the AMCA's project director meant when he said that the fighter will have 6th gen technologies so it will be a 5.5 gen fighter. His words not mine.
MAWS ? MAWS are based on IR/Visible light sensors. I think you mean RWRs. Those functionalities will be built in on the AMCA's side arrays. Jammers are most effective when they are directed and not broadcasted unidirectionally. The side array jammers will be directed jammers, why else would you need to mount them on the sides ? You can just mount a central jammer and blast EM waves in all directions, but that won't be very effective. For proper direction of jammers there must be EM waves detection and ranging capabilities built in to detect enemy radars/seekers. That is what a RWR does.
How effective the side arrays will be as in RWR role will depend on the speed at which the arrays can detect enemy radars and direct their jamming signals. LDRE has plenty of experience of making quick reacting radars given their work on the BMD and various other AD programs. Can they fit in such functionalities on the small size of a side array remains to be seen. DRDO should probably start working on some advanced chaffs like BriteCloud.
Either way it seems threats from radar guided missiles are well taken care of. It is the IR seeking missiles that worry me. DRDO has made no attempts yet to develop a DIRCM system or advanced flares. As things are now it seems their plan is to continue using a version of the older Phosphorus/Magnesium based flares. IR seekers globally are widening their detection bandwidth to N-IR and VN-IR. Soon enough the older flares wont be enough. However, flare systems are incredibly modular, so they can start work later and can plug new types of flares in older launch cases. So DRDO does have time in hand for the flares, not so for the DIRCM. DIRCMs are not modular, need to be externally mounted and take up significant amount of onboard power. If they chose to get one late it will stall the AMCA project, if they don't get one then the AMCA will have no additional protection from IR seeking missiles or MANPADS.
Well this is encouraging. I seem to have missed this development. Thank youWell they are developing advanced flare.
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Our current RWR is having detection capability of 2-18 ghz whereas in current 5th gen aircraft 10 such RWR are used thus giving wide coverage even RWR used in rafale also work in wide band upto 40 ghz. Do we any plans for making such RWR.The DAS will have active elements. I believe this is what the AMCA's project director meant when he said that the fighter will have 6th gen technologies so it will be a 5.5 gen fighter. His words not mine.
MAWS ? MAWS are based on IR/Visible light sensors. I think you mean RWRs. Those functionalities will be built in on the AMCA's side arrays. Jammers are most effective when they are directed and not broadcasted unidirectionally. The side array jammers will be directed jammers, why else would you need to mount them on the sides ? You can just mount a central jammer and blast EM waves in all directions, but that won't be very effective. For proper direction of jammers there must be EM waves detection and ranging capabilities built in to detect enemy radars/seekers. That is what a RWR does.
How effective the side arrays will be as in RWR role will depend on the speed at which the arrays can detect enemy radars and direct their jamming signals. LDRE has plenty of experience of making quick reacting radars given their work on the BMD and various other AD programs. Can they fit in such functionalities on the small size of a side array remains to be seen. DRDO should probably start working on some advanced chaffs like BriteCloud.
Either way it seems threats from radar guided missiles are well taken care of. It is the IR seeking missiles that worry me. DRDO has made no attempts yet to develop a DIRCM system or advanced flares. As things are now it seems their plan is to continue using a version of the older Phosphorus/Magnesium based flares. IR seekers globally are widening their detection bandwidth to N-IR and VN-IR. Soon enough the older flares wont be enough. However, flare systems are incredibly modular, so they can start work later and can plug new types of flares in older launch cases. So DRDO does have time in hand for the flares, not so for the DIRCM. DIRCMs are not modular, need to be externally mounted and take up significant amount of onboard power. If they chose to get one late it will stall the AMCA project, if they don't get one then the AMCA will have no additional protection from IR seeking missiles or MANPADS.
Theoretically the side arrays should be capable of taking on some of the responsibilities of the RWR. I haven't found any separate RWR projects for the AMCA yet.Do we any plans for making such RWR.
What are side arraysTheoretically the side arrays should be capable of taking on some of the responsibilities of the RWR. I haven't found any separate RWR projects for the AMCA yet.
Oh speaking of which :
Smaller radar like antenna arrays mounted on the two sides of the AMCA. Exact location remains to be seen.What are side arrays
Meta-materials are also being researched. It seems JA research is moving ahead faster. Or maybe meta-materials research isn't being published.I thought meta material stealth coating will be used.
Got it so out of those 2 arrays one will be transmitter and another receiver. They can work as standalone as well as in tandem with RWR.Smaller radar like antenna arrays mounted on the two sides of the AMCA. Exact location remains to be seen.
Meta-materials are also being researched. It seems JA research is moving ahead faster. Or maybe meta-materials research isn't being published.
I think this is the final design then why did they showed different design in aero India.
Seems like AMCA will useGeneration of design data for
Condenser of Vapour Compression Module (VCM) of AMCA”.
It must be part of detailed design phase .