Agni & Prithvi Ballistic Missiles : News & Discussions

Off-road mobility is not required for our missiles. Plus India's road network is pretty good and getting better. It's also going to be difficult to spot from space if our TELs looks like regular trucks.

As for MIRVs, its relevation to the public and its existence are not synonymous. Moreover, its relevation doesn't suit our current diplomatic and security needs even if they have been deployed. The US is going to face difficulties back home if it's revealed that India has operationalised MIRV. Plus, this relevation will benefit Pakistan more than it does India. You can say that if MIRV has been deployed, it makes more sense for India to keep quiet about.
Deterrent is the word here.
All nuclear weapons are flaunted for deterrence purposes.
No point in having a nuclear weapon if enemy doesn't know about it.
 
Deterrent is the word here.
All nuclear weapons are flaunted for deterrence purposes.
No point in having a nuclear weapon if enemy doesn't know about it.
Incorrect. You don't always need to flaunt nukes to establish deterrence. Only states which are insecure and with low self-esteem do that. For example, North Korea and the "land of the pure". Israel doesn't need to display its nuclear weapons to establish deterrence. It only helps Iran or any other state in the region to have an overt reason to develop one for themselves. In India's case, it already established and this is just strengthening it.

Ambiguity is the word here.
 
Incorrect. You don't need to flaunt nukes to establish deterrence. Only states which are insecure and with low self-esteem do that. For example, North Korea and the "land of the pure". Israel doesn't need to display its nuclear weapons to establish deterrence. It only helps Iran or any other state in the region to have an overt reason to develop one for themselves. In India's case, it already established and this is just strengthening it.

Ambiguity is the word here.
Since Paxtanis are loud, motor mouths they don't/won't understand language of silence which is much more effective, deafening and deadly....🤗🤗
 
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Israel has USA nuclear shield and don't have enough mukes of its own to flaunt.
Other insecure nations such as USA and Russia flaunt their nukes abundantly.
 
Incorrect. You don't always need to flaunt nukes to establish deterrence. Only states which are insecure and with low self-esteem do that. For example, North Korea and the "land of the pure". Israel doesn't need to display its nuclear weapons to establish deterrence. It only helps Iran or any other state in the region to have an overt reason to develop one for themselves. In India's case, it already established and this is just strengthening it.

Ambiguity is the word here.
China does it regularly and so is Russia.
I think Jagga Badmash has a point here
 
China does it regularly and so is Russia.
I think Jagga Badmash has a point here
Who questions their deterrence? When was the last time they said we will nuke you?
Israel has USA nuclear shield and don't have enough mukes of its own to flaunt.
Other insecure nations such as USA and Russia flaunt their nukes abundantly.
You are such a durpok. Why don't you be a supermarket man and quote me?
 
Israel has USA nuclear shield and don't have enough mukes of its own to flaunt.
Other insecure nations such as USA and Russia flaunt their nukes abundantly.
Israel nuc stock pile is in the 80 warheards if I remember well. It is an estimation read some years ago. It seems not impossible.
Isn't it far enough for a 9 millions country?

Just imagine to use just the quarter against Iran : the country would be smashed, and all the other arab country can't do anything fearing a nuc answer.
 
Because, You don't know how to defend your point of view? :oops:

Aren't you the same guy bitches about PJ-10 then praises the ~700kg CM-400AKG as the best missile because it gets supersonic at terminal?
I Guess,Brahmos air launched version i argued against and favored CM-400AKG.
Below are some of my reasons

Brahmos ALCM warhead . 300 kg

CM-400AKG warhead 200Kg

Brahmos ALCM max Range 400 km

CM-400AKG max range 250 km

How many IAF aircrafts can currently carry Brahmos?
3 ( The rest are yet to be converted, and at max there will be 42).

How many PAF jets can carry CM-400AKG?
The entire JF-17 fleet without modifications.

How many Brahmos per aircraft be carried?
One under central pylon.

How many CM-400AKG Thunders can carry?
Two.


How many Brahmos IAF has right now?
Less than 10.

How many CM-400AKG PAF has right now.
110
 
I Guess,Brahmos air launched version i argued against and favored CM-400AKG.
Below are some of my reasons

Brahmos ALCM warhead . 300 kg

CM-400AKG warhead 200Kg

Brahmos ALCM max Range 400 km

CM-400AKG max range 250 km

How many IAF aircrafts can currently carry Brahmos?
3 ( The rest are yet to be converted, and at max there will be 42).

How many PAF jets can carry CM-400AKG?
The entire JF-17 fleet without modifications.

How many Brahmos per aircraft be carried?
One under central pylon.

How many CM-400AKG Thunders can carry?
Two.


How many Brahmos IAF has right now?
Less than 10.

How many CM-400AKG PAF has right now.
110
Is the CM-400AKG supersonic? If not, baith jao maamu. Prepare yourself to be vaccinated. For the sheer number & variety of SAMs at our disposal will tackle whatever you aim in our direction assuming you don't claim later what you did on 27th Feb.
 
Mach 5 at terminal

I'm glad you took the bait. Now think if you had diplomatic relations with Israel, this would be very difficult for us to achieve.




 
Deterrent is the word here.
All nuclear weapons are flaunted for deterrence purposes.
No point in having a nuclear weapon if enemy doesn't know about it.

You are going about it the wrong way. Information about deterrence is spread using leaks within the system, during diplomatic visits, in consulates etc. It's not done using public proclamations.

Public proclamations are done for political reasons.
Like this:
"We have nuclear of nuclear bombs (the mother of nuclear bombs). I decided to tell them, do whatever you want to do (but we will retaliate)," the prime minister said.

He is referring to thermonukes. But, since it's not clear, you can assume whatever you want to. If thermonukes have been deployed, do you think your leadership doesn't know about it already? Or do you think you have somehow become the authority on whether India has this or that deployed?

Where's the public announcement from Israel on their stockpile?
 
If thermonukes have been deployed, do you think your leadership doesn't know about it already?

I would be very careful using terms like deployed. Indian thermonuclear warheads are never in a deployed state. At least not yet. The only ones deployed are the ones with the IN. And they are not thermonuclear warheads.

Are they inducted in an operational configuration? Maybe.

On a completely un-related note....nukes are not for discussion in political rallies. That of course is my personal opinion.
 
I would be very careful using terms like deployed. Indian thermonuclear warheads are never in a deployed state. At least not yet. The only ones deployed are the ones with the IN. And they are not thermonuclear warheads.

Are they inducted in an operational configuration? Maybe.

On a completely un-related note....nukes are not for discussion in political rallies. That of course is my personal opinion.
He gets a special pass.
 
I would be very careful using terms like deployed. Indian thermonuclear warheads are never in a deployed state. At least not yet. The only ones deployed are the ones with the IN. And they are not thermonuclear warheads.

Are they inducted in an operational configuration? Maybe.

On a completely un-related note....nukes are not for discussion in political rallies. That of course is my personal opinion.
Boosted fission can be classed as thermo nuclear as it involves fusion stage. Albeit in a low key role of generating high energy neutrons, not actual blast.
 
Boosted fission can be classed as thermo nuclear as it involves fusion stage. Albeit in a low key role of generating high energy neutrons, not actual blast.
Seedhe seedhe kyon nahin kehte maamu, your thermonukes are 2-4 devices of boosted fission type which the Chinese sold you & you're now trying to pass off as your own & as thermonukes.
 
Where's the public announcement from Israel on their stockpile?
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I've been seeing this same list for the past 10 yrs now .
A case I know well, France situation : The number of warheads is now stabilized since 20 years. It is now just under 300. Why do you want us to built some more? It's more than enough to put Russia, for exemple, to a full ruin.
Same for Israel who first ennemy is Iran : a quarter of the 80 nukes will erase 90% of the interesting part of the country.
The US and russian stock pile is absolutely useless.
As said by general De Gaulle to a US counter part about the US deterrence : "why do you want to be able to destroy 50x your ennemy? The first is enough".
 
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I would be very careful using terms like deployed. Indian thermonuclear warheads are never in a deployed state. At least not yet. The only ones deployed are the ones with the IN. And they are not thermonuclear warheads.

Are they inducted in an operational configuration? Maybe.

On a completely un-related note....nukes are not for discussion in political rallies. That of course is my personal opinion.

All that's just semantics though. The point is whether thermonukes are weaponised and available for use in a short period of time.

The answer is we don't know.
 
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