Dunno but it has been accepted by army, post #39. It maybe prototype-II or something, report also highlights using of composite hatches.
Dunno but it has been accepted by army, post #39. It maybe prototype-II or something, report also highlights using of composite hatches.
CVRDE issues EoI to manufacture turbocharger for 1500 hp diesel engine. Also,
Ashok Leyland will collaborate with CVRDE for manufacture, assembly and testing of lightweight clutch for the design and development of weight optimised 1,500 hp automatic transmission for main battle tanks.
Ashok Leyland wins tender for defence tracked combat vehicles; makes foray into niche segment - Firstpost
Ashok Leyland will collaborate with CVRDE for manufacture, assembly and testing of lightweight clutch for the design and development of weight optimised 1,500 hp automatic transmission for main battle tanks.
Ashok Leyland wins tender for defence tracked combat vehicles; makes foray into niche segment - Firstpost
RInfra to deliver parts prototypes for Arjun Mark II ahead of schedule
Reliance Infra is planning to deliver prototypes of the hull and turret for the Arjun Mark II main battle tank (MBT) to the Combat Vehicle Research and Development Establishment (CVRDE) six month ahead of the deadline. The prototypes are being manufactured at the company’s facility in Silvassa.
RInfra had won the contract to manufacture the prototypes in 2017 through a competitive bidding process. Other bidders included L&T, Bharat Forge, the Mahindras and Godrej.
“We are ready to deliver the hull and turret for the Arjun Mark II MBT six months ahead of schedule,” a Reliance spokesperson told BusinessLine. “This is amongst the first such projects to be awarded to the private sector in India, with the longer-term objective of creating alternative capacities and capabilities.”
The CVRDE has been looking to scale up the manufacturing capacity of Arjun tanks to meet the Army’s requirements. Private sector players were hence considered as an alternative supply line in addition to the Ordnance Factory Board, which has so far been the sole supplier of indigenous components for the MBTs.
Without disclosing the details and size of the CVRDE order bagged by RInfra, sources said the company is targeting an overall opportunity of ₹2,500 crore once mass production starts.
The Defence Acquisition Council gave the green signal for the ₹6,600-crore procurement of 118 Arjun Mark II MBTs to equip two regiments back in 2014. This will be in addition to an earlier order for 124 Arjun Mark I tanks currently manufactured by state-owned Heavy Vehicles Factory at Avadi, Chennai.
The Mark II version developed by the CVRDE was based on the Army’s recommendations following comparative trials of the Arjun Mark I and Russia’s T-90.
Indigenous components
One of the main requirements, according to experts, was to reduce the weight of the tank as well as incorporate an anti-tank missile firing capability. The weight of Mark II has been reduced to less than 50 tonnes. The updated model has over 90 improvements over the previous version. Also, it largely relies on indigenous components.
If its below 50 tonnes then CVRDE wouldn't have been looking for 70 tonne trailer for arjun mk-2.
Reliance Infra is planning to deliver prototypes of the hull and turret for the Arjun Mark II main battle tank (MBT) to the Combat Vehicle Research and Development Establishment (CVRDE) six month ahead of the deadline. The prototypes are being manufactured at the company’s facility in Silvassa.
RInfra had won the contract to manufacture the prototypes in 2017 through a competitive bidding process. Other bidders included L&T, Bharat Forge, the Mahindras and Godrej.
“We are ready to deliver the hull and turret for the Arjun Mark II MBT six months ahead of schedule,” a Reliance spokesperson told BusinessLine. “This is amongst the first such projects to be awarded to the private sector in India, with the longer-term objective of creating alternative capacities and capabilities.”
The CVRDE has been looking to scale up the manufacturing capacity of Arjun tanks to meet the Army’s requirements. Private sector players were hence considered as an alternative supply line in addition to the Ordnance Factory Board, which has so far been the sole supplier of indigenous components for the MBTs.
Without disclosing the details and size of the CVRDE order bagged by RInfra, sources said the company is targeting an overall opportunity of ₹2,500 crore once mass production starts.
The Defence Acquisition Council gave the green signal for the ₹6,600-crore procurement of 118 Arjun Mark II MBTs to equip two regiments back in 2014. This will be in addition to an earlier order for 124 Arjun Mark I tanks currently manufactured by state-owned Heavy Vehicles Factory at Avadi, Chennai.
The Mark II version developed by the CVRDE was based on the Army’s recommendations following comparative trials of the Arjun Mark I and Russia’s T-90.
Indigenous components
One of the main requirements, according to experts, was to reduce the weight of the tank as well as incorporate an anti-tank missile firing capability. The weight of Mark II has been reduced to less than 50 tonnes. The updated model has over 90 improvements over the previous version. Also, it largely relies on indigenous components.
If its below 50 tonnes then CVRDE wouldn't have been looking for 70 tonne trailer for arjun mk-2.
only with a complete modification of the armour.
A modern armor is made of differents layers of steel/uranium/glass/glass fiber/Kevlar/rubber/ceramic.... (not all together !)
Maybe you can remove one layer and let a free space instead... or replace a high weight steel or uranium layer (not all of course) by a lower weight material.
Maybe you can decide to reduce the protection in one part of the MBT.
Maybe a new engine + transmission help to reduce the weight.
But it's impressive. Too impressive to be true?
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Armour is the key characteristic of arjun and i don't think DRDO will compromise there. I was expecting final reduced weight btw 58-60 tonnes, that much reduction will need some design change i believe. Also, T-90MS weigh 48 tonnes, so we could same trailer no need for new one then. Leopard 2A6 weigh 63 tonne and they have trailer capable of carrying 70-73 tonne, should be same for arjun also.
somehow I think the Media over compensates the achievement of DRDO / HAL other institutes, and raises our hopes so high that when the actual product comes out, even though its "good" we dont like it any more. Weight reduction from 65+ to 50 tonnes is not just impressive - it feels like some armor would have been compromised.
then again, this report is not from any official defense research group - so take it with a grain of salt?
then again, this report is not from any official defense research group - so take it with a grain of salt?
TRISHUL: What's Wrong With The T-90S MBT's Fire-Control System?
this was a critical deficiency? Might be a partial deficiency, as it was in T-90.
I dont know how IA planning to fight with latest gen Al Khalid-2 which hold superior FCS than T-90S,, but as T-90 is demigod we achieve anything. And if we match with Israeli standards, Israeli had such FCS in Mk 2B. LoL. And here we talking about Arjun deficiencies. This boggles my mind. But again as Venom movie is released, T-90 cover itself in black venom and kill anything.
And if people still unable to tell the difference in
with this
Then god save us. But these are just partial deficiencies.
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The T-90s are coming in with new upgrades.
The driver will be getting uncooled TIs. DRDO's sights will probably be chosen.
https://www.drdo.gov.in/drdo/English/Night_Sight_for_T-90.pdf
The commander will get a DRDO designed TI as well.
As for the gunner's sights. DRDO may have an option while the Russians have introduced the Irbis-K.
T-90 Tanks to Get MCT-Matrix Heat-Vision Sight
The driver will be getting uncooled TIs. DRDO's sights will probably be chosen.
https://www.drdo.gov.in/drdo/English/Night_Sight_for_T-90.pdf
The commander will get a DRDO designed TI as well.
As for the gunner's sights. DRDO may have an option while the Russians have introduced the Irbis-K.
T-90 Tanks to Get MCT-Matrix Heat-Vision Sight
Upgraded Arjun tank on trial
An upgraded version of the Arjun tanks that has better firing and mobility is presently undergoing validation trials. ‘Arjun Mark 1A’ was being validated at trials, the Parliament was informed this week. This was the first official confirmation and the ‘Mark 1A’ will be an a additional version of the tank till ‘Mark 2’ version, which is somewhat lighter in weight, is readied, okayed and accepted.
Sources said it was a significant development as it showed that the Ministry of Defence was ready to keep on improving the tank, be it the addition of more power or reducing its weight.
The Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) and the Indian Army had, in the first half of this year, agreed on accepting the new version. In all, the Army is looking to have 118 pieces. A total of 93 modifications have been done over the first version of Arjun, 124 of which were inducted in 2010-11.
Sources said the Army was okay with the tank, but wanted it to be lighter than its present weight of 68 tonne. Most modern European tanks are of the same weight and tank-transporters (specialised trucks) for Arjun are available to ferry it.
The ‘Mark 2’ will have to be lighter by some 3 tonne and be in the range of 65 tonne. This may require some modification in the hull of the tank for the final contours to emerge.
As part of the arrangement with the Army, the DRDO has promised to set up a system to maintain the Arjuns within India. It will be an annual maintenance contract with the Bharat Earth Movers Limited as a possible agency.
The tanks, as part of the trials, had already done some 4,000 km of run and only the upgrades were being tested now, said sources.
An upgraded version of the Arjun tanks that has better firing and mobility is presently undergoing validation trials. ‘Arjun Mark 1A’ was being validated at trials, the Parliament was informed this week. This was the first official confirmation and the ‘Mark 1A’ will be an a additional version of the tank till ‘Mark 2’ version, which is somewhat lighter in weight, is readied, okayed and accepted.
Sources said it was a significant development as it showed that the Ministry of Defence was ready to keep on improving the tank, be it the addition of more power or reducing its weight.
The Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) and the Indian Army had, in the first half of this year, agreed on accepting the new version. In all, the Army is looking to have 118 pieces. A total of 93 modifications have been done over the first version of Arjun, 124 of which were inducted in 2010-11.
Sources said the Army was okay with the tank, but wanted it to be lighter than its present weight of 68 tonne. Most modern European tanks are of the same weight and tank-transporters (specialised trucks) for Arjun are available to ferry it.
The ‘Mark 2’ will have to be lighter by some 3 tonne and be in the range of 65 tonne. This may require some modification in the hull of the tank for the final contours to emerge.
As part of the arrangement with the Army, the DRDO has promised to set up a system to maintain the Arjuns within India. It will be an annual maintenance contract with the Bharat Earth Movers Limited as a possible agency.
The tanks, as part of the trials, had already done some 4,000 km of run and only the upgrades were being tested now, said sources.
So basically 124 mk-1(58 tonne), 118 mk-1A(68 tonne) and later mk-2(62 tonne) will be ordered.
With FRCV delayed to 2040s looks like arjun mk-2 will be ordered in bulk. Maybe its a new design with HNS steel, weight optimised hull, turret, 1500 hp engine, tyres, composite hatches etc. Here is what the 70T trailer for mk-2 in development by DRDO.
With FRCV delayed to 2040s looks like arjun mk-2 will be ordered in bulk. Maybe its a new design with HNS steel, weight optimised hull, turret, 1500 hp engine, tyres, composite hatches etc. Here is what the 70T trailer for mk-2 in development by DRDO.