Armenia-Azerbaijan Conflict 2020
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Against Quad Copters, even shotguns work. I have even personally tried it in shooting range. Even the bigger quad copters can be shot down with a shotgun shell. Against MALEs (3KM - 9KM ceiling) smaller AA guns like 37mm guns from world war 2 will be good enough.
Remember these are slow moving aircrafts which are basically like those before the jet age.
Take Chinese Wingloong for example.
Ceiling : 4KM
Speed : 280 KM / h
Thats the characteristics of Stuka dive bombers from WW2. Heck even Stuka dive bombers were faster than this.
Against quadcopters, AAA is fine. Against MALE and HALE, those long range guns are useless.
Against quad copters, a simple shotgun works wonders. I have shot 10 QC using a vintage shotgun. Its very satisfying and you should try it too.
PS : Thats not my video. I do have a video of that.
MALE are essentially glorified WW2 prop planes. Ack Acks worked back then, they will work now as well. Unless you have some evidence to contrary, I guess you are just asserting like always without a shred of evidence.
For HALEs there are two types. Jet engined powered ones like WZ-7 and WZ-2000 and turbo prop based like MQ-9. Jet engine powered ones are not cheap and they deserve a missile like QRSAM to counter but then, these are not exactly what you will face in a swarm attack. MQ-9 is again a high flying slower plane which can be countered with a AA gun.
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Haha. How many WW2 movies have you seen showing bombing raids? How many planes finish their mission and always come back? You speak as though the guns are so effective that all planes are destroyed after just 1 mission.
Before all that why don't you check what is the standoff range of these drones first?
Yeas, shitty foreign policy. That tiny nation has supported us in kashmir issue without any doubt
Andd if someone asks me, on basis of my moral value i will tell our silence is just a back stab. The world doesn't need any neutral country any more.
Depends which raid you are talking about. If it is first day of Operation Barbarossa, then most of them came back. If it is sometime later, then nope. Also, if it were UK, after a point, german air raids became less of an issue for them. Heck, british even pushed germans to move away from their "cruise" missile (V-1), the first drones if you will to ballisitic missiles because V-1s were too easy to intercept.
In the present, just by using improvised version of such tactics all such drones can be countered much easily. All this hard on for new and shiny tech is just that... hard ons. In real world, billion of dollars worth of new and shiny research falls for very basic attacks. And I say that as someone who hold enough patents and research papers.
Don't believe me? 200 million dollars + Global hawk was shot down by what was essentially a cold war time A2A missile clone in Iran. So much for drones and HALE.
Sure why not?
MQ-9 fields Hellfire missile with a range of 5-6 KM.
Guns can be hidden and you can also put dummy guns. So good job wasting a 100 K missile on a 100 dollar prop of a dummy gun.
As always, tactics win battles not really technology.
Now that I have answered your question, will you answer this one from me please?
Have you ever hunted ducks or any game using a gun? Because if you had you would know what it is to shoot a QC. So have you ever shot any gun? On a game bird by any chance?
Check again, the range of PGMs.
I don't think you know this but air defence is not done by a couple of people with shotguns.
Drones are decimating Armanian forces. Without bringing brown the drones, Armenians will loose without much fighting.
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Fake news. Paxtan has a whole army of terrorists from various tanzeems. Why wouldn't it deploy them instead of the PA. That's what they did & are doing in Afghanistan. Why should Armenia be different?
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