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I found this online posted by an Indian:

"India has badly insulted the energies of Venus and Jupiter which are the two prime indicators of material and spiritual wealth. There is chaos on the roads, chaos in the society in the name of caste and religion, there is no cleanliness anywhere, there is no aesthetics or beauty in architecture or the surroundings in big cities, society has degraded women over the years, they have polluted holy rivers like Ganga and even the hill stations/natural environment are suffering. There is heavy corruption everywhere right from bottom to top. Science, technology, knowledge and innovation were never given importance post independence. Millions of small girls (Venus) were killed or aborted and women were burnt in the name of dowry. Such a society can never progress because the 2 great benefics have gone haywire. To add to that, no sincere hardwork and corruption has disbalanced Saturnine energies too. No focus on modern technology and scientific skills screwed up Rahu too. I can go on and on but will leave it here because it is painful as an Indian ....."
 
I found this online posted by an Indian:

"India has badly insulted the energies of Venus and Jupiter which are the two prime indicators of material and spiritual wealth. There is chaos on the roads, chaos in the society in the name of caste and religion, there is no cleanliness anywhere, there is no aesthetics or beauty in architecture or the surroundings in big cities, society has degraded women over the years, they have polluted holy rivers like Ganga and even the hill stations/natural environment are suffering. There is heavy corruption everywhere right from bottom to top. Science, technology, knowledge and innovation were never given importance post independence. Millions of small girls (Venus) were killed or aborted and women were burnt in the name of dowry. Such a society can never progress because the 2 great benefics have gone haywire. To add to that, no sincere hardwork and corruption has disbalanced Saturnine energies too. No focus on modern technology and scientific skills screwed up Rahu too. I can go on and on but will leave it here because it is painful as an Indian ....."

All these are destined to happen in Kaliyuga. The demon Kali loves to hoard (read consume) humanity towards itself by indulging their minds and actions to these four A-karma (vices) - Gambling, Alcohol, Sexual promiscuity and consuming Meat. The fifth is the pursuit of Gold - moolah, dough, money. When humans become so self obsessed with the self it causes conflict in society and hence the exploitation, misuse and disrespect of all that is mother nature - living as well as inanimate things. This is a Cosmic Churn happening right now which will consume all causing the imbalance. Like Vasudeva Krishna says in Bhagvat Geeta, that I am the Progressed Destruction ("Kaal" in sanskrit) and none either from the Kauravas or the Pandavas will be spared.
 
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Anirudh Kumar Mishra (@Anirudh_Astro) Tweeted:
Saturn has transited to Capricorn sign which will bring worldwide.

Death by violence
Rapid and sudden change in climate pattern
Hopelessness among people..
Religious extremism will rise
Trust among people will dip
Causalities by technical problems

2020 is a nightmare! Anirudh Kumar Mishra on Twitter ( )


Levina🇮🇳 (@LevinaNeythiri) Tweeted:
1/n Last time on DM i earned a lot of brickbats frm my friends for not informing about a MERCURY RETROGRADE in advance. ☹️ Last retrograde happened btwn Oct 31st-Nov 20 in the sign of SCORPIO (a sign of extremes🤪). If u observed—a lot of chaos happened during that period. Levina on Twitter ( )

Levina🇮🇳 (@LevinaNeythiri) Tweeted:
2/n Next mercury retrograde will happen btwn Feb 17th- Mar 10th (few days +-). Bt it happens in another emotional sign—Pisces. Since PISCES isn’t as extreme a sign as SCORPIO, I believe it’ll b relatively better period 4 most of us. Last retrograde in NOV ws when SHIV-SENA duped ( )


The above posts were such a pleasant sight first up in the morning that I couldn't help but think it would be very selfish on my part were I not to spread the cheer here.

Perhaps you'd like to elaborate on the celestial phenomena described above

@vstol Jockey ; @Golden_Rule
 
Anirudh Kumar Mishra (@Anirudh_Astro) Tweeted:
Saturn has transited to Capricorn sign which will bring worldwide.

Death by violence
Rapid and sudden change in climate pattern
Hopelessness among people..
Religious extremism will rise
Trust among people will dip
Causalities by technical problems

2020 is a nightmare! Anirudh Kumar Mishra on Twitter ( )

So more of the same s*** that's been happening every year forever? Shocking:rolleyes:.
 
Anirudh Kumar Mishra (@Anirudh_Astro) Tweeted:
Saturn has transited to Capricorn sign which will bring worldwide.

Death by violence
Rapid and sudden change in climate pattern
Hopelessness among people..
Religious extremism will rise
Trust among people will dip
Causalities by technical problems

2020 is a nightmare! Anirudh Kumar Mishra on Twitter ( )


Levina🇮🇳 (@LevinaNeythiri) Tweeted:
1/n Last time on DM i earned a lot of brickbats frm my friends for not informing about a MERCURY RETROGRADE in advance. ☹️ Last retrograde happened btwn Oct 31st-Nov 20 in the sign of SCORPIO (a sign of extremes🤪). If u observed—a lot of chaos happened during that period. Levina on Twitter ( )

Levina🇮🇳 (@LevinaNeythiri) Tweeted:
2/n Next mercury retrograde will happen btwn Feb 17th- Mar 10th (few days +-). Bt it happens in another emotional sign—Pisces. Since PISCES isn’t as extreme a sign as SCORPIO, I believe it’ll b relatively better period 4 most of us. Last retrograde in NOV ws when SHIV-SENA duped ( )


The above posts were such a pleasant sight first up in the morning that I couldn't help but think it would be very selfish on my part were I not to spread the cheer here.

Perhaps you'd like to elaborate on the celestial phenomena described above

@vstol Jockey ; @Golden_Rule

Correction to what Levina said -- Mercury is not becoming retrograde in Pisces, instead it is going to be retrograde in Aquarius from 2/16 to 3/8. When it moves to Pisces from 4/7 to 4/23, it will be debilitated

Here are several challenging transits with overlapping dates.

1/15 till 9/23 Ketu is in Moola, its own Nakshatra, ruled by the Godess Kaali
1/15 till 5/19 Rahu is in Ardra, its own Nakshatra, ruled by Rudra - the fierce form of Shiva
2/16 to 3/8 Mercury Retrograde in Aquarius
6/18 till 7/11 Mercury Retrograde in Gemini
4/7 to 4/23 Mercury Debilitated in Pisces
5/13 till 6/24 Venus Retrograde in Taurus
3/29 to 5/13 Jupiter Debilitated in Capricorn
5/14 to 6/29 Jupiter Debilitated and Retrograde in Capricorn
6/30 till 9/11 Jupiter Retrograde in Sagittarius
5/10 till 9/28 Saturn Retrograde in Capricorn

So, the first 9 months of 2020 is going to be filled with upheaval. Till mid-May, the all powerful Rahu and Ketu - the power derived due to their placement in the nakshatra of their ownership, will play a game of extreme deception and will cause religion driven conflicts. From mid-May to end-June, Jupiter the Dharma lord gets debilitated as well as is retrograde and there after is retrograde in its own moola-trikona sign of Sagittarius; from mid-May till end-Sept, Saturn is retrograde in its own sign of Capricorn. This seems to be an extremely dangerous period where all kinds of Adharma and Akarma will precipitate.

Tough times ahead with a lot of social-government conflict and upheaval!! Mainly due to ignorance and foolishness of the masses by getting trapped in the hands of the few manipulators of society.
 
Saturn is retrograde in its own sign of Capricorn. This seems to be an extremely dangerous period where all kinds of Adharma and Akarma will precipitate.

Tough times ahead with a lot of social-government conflict and upheaval!! Mainly due to ignorance and foolishness of the masses by getting trapped in the hands of the few manipulators of society.


Modi is a Saturn man, he is best suited for this time. His saturn is benefic for him, as he is not a family man and his family is his country, it will benefit the country.
 
Correction to what Levina said -- Mercury is not becoming retrograde in Pisces, instead it is going to be retrograde in Aquarius from 2/16 to 3/8. When it moves to Pisces from 4/7 to 4/23, it will be debilitated

Here are several challenging transits with overlapping dates.

1/15 till 9/23 Ketu is in Moola, its own Nakshatra, ruled by the Godess Kaali
1/15 till 5/19 Rahu is in Ardra, its own Nakshatra, ruled by Rudra - the fierce form of Shiva
2/16 to 3/8 Mercury Retrograde in Aquarius
6/18 till 7/11 Mercury Retrograde in Gemini
4/7 to 4/23 Mercury Debilitated in Pisces
5/13 till 6/24 Venus Retrograde in Taurus
3/29 to 5/13 Jupiter Debilitated in Capricorn
5/14 to 6/29 Jupiter Debilitated and Retrograde in Capricorn
6/30 till 9/11 Jupiter Retrograde in Sagittarius
5/10 till 9/28 Saturn Retrograde in Capricorn

So, the first 9 months of 2020 is going to be filled with upheaval. Till mid-May, the all powerful Rahu and Ketu - the power derived due to their placement in the nakshatra of their ownership, will play a game of extreme deception and will cause religion driven conflicts. From mid-May to end-June, Jupiter the Dharma lord gets debilitated as well as is retrograde and there after is retrograde in its own moola-trikona sign of Sagittarius; from mid-May till end-Sept, Saturn is retrograde in its own sign of Capricorn. This seems to be an extremely dangerous period where all kinds of Adharma and Akarma will precipitate.

Tough times ahead with a lot of social-government conflict and upheaval!! Mainly due to ignorance and foolishness of the masses by getting trapped in the hands of the few manipulators of society.

Not a good year for marriage??
How does it work when opposites like Venus and Saturn influence a house??
Say Venus and Saturn aspect 7th house, how should one read it??
In my case I have Venus 7th aspect, Jupiter 9th aspect, Saturn 3rd aspect and Mars 8th aspect along with rahu placement in 7th house. What does it say as to the spouse and marital life?? I mean, Venus says a beautiful/youthful wife and Saturn says a serious/old type of person. So how should I read such combinations??
Upapada Langna has Venus in 2nd house. I guess that is a favourable placement for marriage no?

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All these are destined to happen in Kaliyuga. The demon Kali loves to hoard (read consume) humanity towards itself by indulging their minds and actions to these four A-karma (vices) - Gambling, Alcohol, Sexual promiscuity and consuming Meat. The fifth is the pursuit of Gold - moolah, dough, money. When humans become so self obsessed with the self it causes conflict in society and hence the exploitation, misuse and disrespect of all that is mother nature - living as well as inanimate things. This is a Cosmic Churn happening right now which will consume all causing the imbalance. Like Vasudeva Krishna says in Bhagvat Geeta, that I am the Progressed Destruction ("Kaal" in sanskrit) and none either from the Kauravas or the Pandavas will be spared.

I feel that the concept of Kaliyuga and Yugas in general is the biggest psychological attack on the Hindu mind. It constraints them and make them backward looking. Whoever came up this idea, must had noble intentions for sure but they failed to take into account that if you put all the great things into the past, what is left to look for the future and to why change the present?

First, it is based on a false assumption that humans were pious little creatures in the beginning. This type of myth is found in almost all religions of the world. Consider the mythology of Adam & Eve which is similar. Their beginning in heaven is similar to idea of Satyuga but Yugas also have a cyclical nature which makes them different. As we know about the world history, we know that their was never a peaceful time where no wars existed. Human history is full of strifes, wars, theft, natural calamities, diseases etc. Whatever is happening now has happened before and will happen again in future in some different form.

Second, if all the bad things are predestined to happen in Kaliyuga then it gives justification to whatever corruption happens in the society presently. Muslims are taking over India? Its Kaliyuga, it had to happen so nothing to worry. Islamic horders are pillaging India? Kaliyuga bro, Christian converting the masses: Its kaliyuga and Jesus is Kalki.
You see how this concept has so much potential to be misused by disarming the spirit? At best it is a coping strategy but never a fighting strategy. It helps people to justify their current sh*tty predicament by justifying the role of destiny in it. If it is destiny, then it is predetermined and thus cannot be changed. Therefore accept all your sufferings & don't envision to change it.

According to Gyaanis and their various estimates , their are atleast 100,000+ years remaining in Kaliyuga or something of that order of magnitude around which their estimations converge. So that means that no matter what we do, we cannot create a just society until some Kalki comes to change the world order after thousands of years. Thus always look towards the future for some savior while sitting on our *censored**es and doing nothing.

I don't know how this idea came so heavy over the Hindu psyche but AFAIK it isn't found in many scriptures and perhaps was a later insertion. Even if it wasn't, it is best that we shed these harmful ideas from our psyche.

*End of Gyan*
 
I feel that the concept of Kaliyuga and Yugas in general is the biggest psychological attack on the Hindu mind. It constraints them and make them backward looking. Whoever came up this idea, must had noble intentions for sure but they failed to take into account that if you put all the great things into the past, what is left to look for the future and to why change the present?

First, it is based on a false assumption that humans were pious little creatures in the beginning. This type of myth is found in almost all religions of the world. Consider the mythology of Adam & Eve which is similar. Their beginning in heaven is similar to idea of Satyuga but Yugas also have a cyclical nature which makes them different. As we know about the world history, we know that their was never a peaceful time where no wars existed. Human history is full of strifes, wars, theft, natural calamities, diseases etc. Whatever is happening now has happened before and will happen again in future in some different form.

Second, if all the bad things are predestined to happen in Kaliyuga then it gives justification to whatever corruption happens in the society presently. Muslims are taking over India? Its Kaliyuga, it had to happen so nothing to worry. Islamic horders are pillaging India? Kaliyuga bro, Christian converting the masses: Its kaliyuga and Jesus is Kalki.
You see how this concept has so much potential to be misused by disarming the spirit? At best it is a coping strategy but never a fighting strategy. It helps people to justify their current sh*tty predicament by justifying the role of destiny in it. If it is destiny, then it is predetermined and thus cannot be changed. Therefore accept all your sufferings & don't envision to change it.

According to Gyaanis and their various estimates , their are atleast 100,000+ years remaining in Kaliyuga or something of that order of magnitude around which their estimations converge. So that means that no matter what we do, we cannot create a just society until some Kalki comes to change the world order after thousands of years. Thus always look towards the future for some savior while sitting on our *censored**es and doing nothing.

I don't know how this idea came so heavy over the Hindu psyche but AFAIK it isn't found in many scriptures and perhaps was a later insertion. Even if it wasn't, it is best that we shed these harmful ideas from our psyche.

*End of Gyan*

Kali yuga is not 100 percent adharmic. The cow of dharma stands on one leg in kali yuga. Which means 25% people are dharmic in kali yuga.
 
I feel that the concept of Kaliyuga and Yugas in general is the biggest psychological attack on the Hindu mind. It constraints them and make them backward looking. Whoever came up this idea, must had noble intentions for sure but they failed to take into account that if you put all the great things into the past, what is left to look for the future and to why change the present?

First, it is based on a false assumption that humans were pious little creatures in the beginning. This type of myth is found in almost all religions of the world. Consider the mythology of Adam & Eve which is similar. Their beginning in heaven is similar to idea of Satyuga but Yugas also have a cyclical nature which makes them different. As we know about the world history, we know that their was never a peaceful time where no wars existed. Human history is full of strifes, wars, theft, natural calamities, diseases etc. Whatever is happening now has happened before and will happen again in future in some different form.

Second, if all the bad things are predestined to happen in Kaliyuga then it gives justification to whatever corruption happens in the society presently. Muslims are taking over India? Its Kaliyuga, it had to happen so nothing to worry. Islamic horders are pillaging India? Kaliyuga bro, Christian converting the masses: Its kaliyuga and Jesus is Kalki.
You see how this concept has so much potential to be misused by disarming the spirit? At best it is a coping strategy but never a fighting strategy. It helps people to justify their current sh*tty predicament by justifying the role of destiny in it. If it is destiny, then it is predetermined and thus cannot be changed. Therefore accept all your sufferings & don't envision to change it.

According to Gyaanis and their various estimates , their are atleast 100,000+ years remaining in Kaliyuga or something of that order of magnitude around which their estimations converge. So that means that no matter what we do, we cannot create a just society until some Kalki comes to change the world order after thousands of years. Thus always look towards the future for some savior while sitting on our *censored**es and doing nothing.

I don't know how this idea came so heavy over the Hindu psyche but AFAIK it isn't found in many scriptures and perhaps was a later insertion. Even if it wasn't, it is best that we shed these harmful ideas from our psyche.

*End of Gyan*
I think what you read, understood and have written here is what is written and professed. But it is definitely not the truth, There is definitely 'destiny" as well as "free will"

Destiny is created through your Sanchit Karma and Prarabdh Karma. You cannot escape from it.

Free will is what creates Kriyamana Karma and is 100% in your control, through which you create your own destiny.

A simple way to understand this is that you took a debt of 1 Cr to buy a house which you need to pay back over 20 years. There is no escape from the principal and interest. No way. And you will have to keep doing the daily routine fixed income government job and repay that debt. That is the destiny you inherited and created out of your past Karma to fulfill your desire.

But there is a complex quality of "purushartha" available to every human being using which it can come out of its bondage. Using this "purushartha" you undertake risks to get into entrepreneurship with the intention to earn much more than the government job. This is your free will using which you can create your own destiny.

Most of us do not want to come out of our comfort zone and hence get bogged down by the destiny created by our past Karmas.

Regarding Yugas, in Kali yuga, humans survive only on one leg, which is that of "truth". Truth is relative. Those who aspire absolute truth do defeat Kali - the demon, in their current incarnation. They have identified Kalki within.

more later ...
 
I think what you read, understood and have written here is what is written and professed. But it is definitely not the truth, There is definitely 'destiny" as well as "free will"

Destiny is created through your Sanchit Karma and Prarabdh Karma. You cannot escape from it.

Free will is what creates Kriyamana Karma and is 100% in your control, through which you create your own destiny.

A simple way to understand this is that you took a debt of 1 Cr to buy a house which you need to pay back over 20 years. There is no escape from the principal and interest. No way. And you will have to keep doing the daily routine fixed income government job and repay that debt. That is the destiny you inherited and created out of your past Karma to fulfill your desire.

But there is a complex quality of "purushartha" available to every human being using which it can come out of its bondage. Using this "purushartha" you undertake risks to get into entrepreneurship with the intention to earn much more than the government job. This is your free will using which you can create your own destiny.

Most of us do not want to come out of our comfort zone and hence get bogged down by the destiny created by our past Karmas.

Regarding Yugas, in Kali yuga, humans survive only on one leg, which is that of "truth". Truth is relative. Those who aspire absolute truth do defeat Kali - the demon, in their current incarnation. They have identified Kalki within.

more later ...

I understand the concepts of the sanchita, prarbadha,kriyamana. It is well understood that their is a chain of cause and effect in the world and past actions definately affect present and future scenarios.

But my viewpoint on theory of Kaliyuga is different. The belief in Kaliyuga itself creates a new Karma which adds to the chain of cause & defect. Suppose someone is reading a great book, while reading it, some ideas enter his mind and creates an impression on him. Depending on the impression, it may lead him to greatness in a future time by guiding him at a critical moment. It was the Karma of the idea which he created while reading. Similarly, Kaliyuga and the impression it creates upon the mind of a dark future creates a new Karma. The very act of believing creates a potential future course.

We know from personal experiences & psychology that beliefs have great effect in determining the actions. The very belief that one can be successful or failure or going to have something, drives the person towards that goals as if the whole world is coming together to achieve that destiny. Belief in Kaliyuga creates a passive kind of impression on the mind and it becomes a self fulfilling destiny. If I believe that my life's outcome is controlled by a very powerful force which I don't have any control over and which is going to take me to ruin, then the destiny will automatically get fulfilled. If we believe that their is a greater *potential* tomorrow & we can make it or break it, then we are much more likely to "realize" our free will and work towards it.

Kaliyuga sabotages this realization. If the goal is to explain the chain of cause-effect then something better can be used. It is an unnecessary concept which has more downsides then upsides.

The other part is that just how wrong the idea is. Humans were hunter gatherers in the beginning and literally all our life was spent in foraging, hunting & fighting with other tribes. Life was simpler than, yes. But it wasn't that great either and something no one today would like to go back to.
 
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The belief in Kaliyuga itself creates a new Karma which adds to the chain of cause & defect

When you read something powerful and accept it as is, you create a "belief" about it.

However when you start questioning it and get to understanding the root cause of it, it creates a foundational "understanding" of it. Hence Kaliyuga has to be understood along with the other three yugas. Sanatan Dharma explains everything happening in cyclical form, not linear. It is exactly the form of a sinusoidal wave form, where all energy exist in that form. Extreme Kaliyuga happens at the bottom most point of the sinusoidal curve. And it is not absolutely dark as you have put it to be. Starting with four legs of the Dharma signified by bull, each leg representing austerity, cleanliness, truthfulness, and kindness; in the age of Kali Dharma stands on just one leg of truthfulness, which will be extremely difficult to decipher, though not impossible, because the human mind will be covered with extreme darkness of animal desires.

When you understand the above description of Yugas and Kaliyuga, you can come out of reactive Karma, instead you can propel yourself into proactive Karma. Manav-avatar of Lord Krishna is meant for such understanding.

Similarly, Kaliyuga and the impression it creates upon the mind of a dark future creates a new Karma. The very act of believing creates a potential future course

Only the weak will fear the dark times. But it is the king of the jungle who hunts in the darkness. So, humans have to live above fear and greed to hunt for "truthfulness" in this dark age of Kali.

Belief in Kaliyuga creates a passive kind of impression on the mind and it becomes a self fulfilling destiny

Do not live by "belief" of fear and greed; instead indulge into mental exercise to "understand" how to tackle "Kali Yuga". Reach out for the truth - the ultimate truth.

If I believe that my life's outcome is controlled by a very powerful force which I don't have any control over and which is going to take me to ruin, then the destiny will automatically get fulfilled. If we believe that their is a greater *potential* tomorrow & we can make it or break it, then we are much more likely to "realize" our free will and work towards it.

This "very powerful force" is not outside of oneself, but is within which is tormenting each and everyone. This force is nothing but the memories of your Sanchit Karma which keep erupting like volcanoes in an unconscious form, making you to act primarily driven by fear and greed, the basest of the animal instinct. It is accumulated from several past lives which were generated then out of darkness of ignorance. Karma in plain simple terms is like the Golden Rule - what goes around comes around. Say if you were a some sort of a Islamic raider in your past life who invaded, looted, pillaged and raped Hindus, in this life you will be a Hindu to experience the same act done by an Islamic in this life, who in past lives bore your brunt. This is how Kali Yuga grows extreme and intense when it approaches its peak. It loves to torment and create hell for humanity. Only the wise would still participate in this world without getting affected by it. Exactly like how Vasudeva Krishna lived.

Kaliyuga sabotages this realization. If the goal is to explain the chain of cause-effect then something better can be used.

Kaliyuga will sabotage your life only when you get trapped into it. Kaliyuga is like a honeytrap in which when one gets trapped, it makes you to do things against your wishes, to perform betrayal. It is the highest form of intelligence manipulation and Ops.

It is an unnecessary concept which has more downsides then upsides

It seems you are looking for a Disneyland to make you feel good. The reality is that each one of us has to go through the Amrut-manthan to excrete the poison out and retain the Amrut. It is an effort within and not from outside. In order to do this we have to get over of the enslavement of the two most manipulative Indriyaas of our Eyes and Ears which enslaves us to the demon Kali. Indeed there are several others which also play a role. It is only the ultimate truth which will give us mukti from the demon Kali.
 
There is Bhagwd Gita and there is also an Uddhav Gita. This Gita came about when Uddhav asked Shri Krishna that why He didn't save Pandavas when they played dice with Shakuni.

(The answer to that question is what I am posting here as received. Hopefully it will last longer here than in my notes and will be beneficial for folks interested in the teachings. This helped clarify a lot of my doubts as well and is a wonderful parable)

From his childhood, Uddhava had been with Krishna, charioting him and serving him in many ways.
He never asked for any wish or boon from Sri Krishna.
When Krishna was at the verge of completing His Avatar, he called Uddhava and said,
‘Dear Uddhava, in this avatar of mine, many people have asked and received boons from me; but you never asked me anything.
Why don’t you ask something now? I will give you.
Let me complete this avatar with the satisfaction of doing something good for you also’.
Even though Uddhava did not ask anything for himself, he had been observing Krishna from his childhood.
He had always wondered about the apparent disconnect between Krishna’s teachings and actions, and wanted to understand the reasons for the same.
He asked Krishna, ‘Lord, you taught us to live in one way, but you lived in a different way.
In the drama of Mahabharat, in the role you played, in your actions, I did not understand many things. I am curious to understand the reasons for your actions.
Would you fulfil my desire to know?’
Krishna said, ‘Uddhava, what I told Arjuna during the war of Kurukshetra was Bhagavad Gita.
Today, my responses to you would be known as ‘Uddhava Gita’.
That is why I gave this opportunity to you. Please ask without hesitation.’
Uddhava starts asking – ‘Krishna, first tell me who is a real friend?’
Krishna says, *‘The real friend is one who comes to the help of his friend in need even without being called’.*
Uddhava: ‘Krishna, you were a dear friend of the Pandavas.
They trusted you fully as Apadhbhandava (protector from all difficulties).
*Krishna, you not only know what is happening, but you know what is going to happen. You are a great gyani.*
Just now you gave the definition of a true, close friend.
Then why did you not act as per that definition.
Why did you not stop Dharmaraj (Yudhishtra)
from playing the gambling game?
Ok, you did not do it; why did you not turn the luck in favour of Dharmaraj, by which you would have ensured that dharma wins. You did not do that also.
*You could have at least saved Dharmaraj by stopping the game after he lost his wealth, country and himself.*
You could have released him from the punishment for gambling.
Or, you could have entered the hall when he started betting his brothers.
You did not do that either.
At least when Duryodhana tempted Dharmaraj by offering to return everything he lost if he bet Draupadi (who always brought good fortune to Pandavas), you could have intervened and with your divine power, you could have made the dice roll in a way that is favorable to Dharmaraj.
Instead, you intervened, only when Draupadi almost lost her modesty and now you claim that you gave clothes and saved Draupadi’s modesty;
how can you even claim this – after her being dragged into the hall by a man and disrobed in front of so many people, what modesty is left for a woman?
What have you saved?
*Only when you help a person at the time of crisis, can you be called ‘Apadhbandhava’.*
*If you did not help in the time of crisis, what is the use?*
Is it Dharma?’
As Uddhava posed these questions, tears started rolling from his eyes.
These are not the questions of Uddhava alone.
All of us who have read Mahabharata have these questions.
On behalf of us, Uddhava had already asked Krishna.
Bhagavan Krishna laughed.
‘Dear Uddhava, the law of this world is: *‘only the one who has Viveka (intelligence through discrimination), wins’.*
While Duryodhana had viveka, Dharmaraj lacked it.
That is why Dharmaraj lost’.
Uddhava was lost and confused. Krishna continues :
‘While Duryodhana had lots of money and wealth to gamble, he did not know how to play the game of dice.
That is why he used his Uncle Shakuni to play the game while he placed the bet.
That is viveka.
Dharmaraj also could have thought similarly and offered that I, his cousin, would play on his behalf.
*If Shakuni and I had played the game of dice, who do you think would have won?*
Can he roll the numbers I am calling or would I roll the numbers that he is asking for.
Forget this.
I can forgive the fact that he forgot to include me in the game.
But, without viveka, he did another blunder.
He prayed that I should not come to the hall as he did not want me to know that through ill-fate he was compelled to play this game.
He tied me with his prayers and did not allow me to get into the hall;
I was just outside the hall waiting for someone to call me through their prayers.
Even when Bheema, Arjuna, Nakula and Sahadeva were lost, they were only cursing Duryodhana and brooding over their fate; they forgot to call me.
Even Draupadi did not call me when Dusshasan held her hair and dragged her to fulfil his brother’s order.
She was also arguing in the hall, based on her own abilities.
She never called me.
Finally good sense prevailed; when Dusshasan started disrobing her, she gave up depending on her own strength, and started shouting *‘Hari, Hari, Abhayam Krishna, Abhayam’* and shouted for me.
Only then did I get an opportunity to save her modesty.
I reached as soon as I was called.
I saved her modesty.
What is my mistake in this situation?
‘Wonderful explanation, Kanna, I am impressed.
However, I am not deceived.
Can I ask you another question’, says Uddhava.
Krishna gives him the permission to proceed.
'Does it mean that you will come only when you are called!
Will you not come on your own to help people in crisis, to establish justice?’, asks Uddhava.
Krishna smiles. *‘Uddhava, in this life everyone’s life proceeds based on their own karma.*
*I don’t run it; I don’t interfere in it.*
*I am only a ‘witness’. I stand close to you and keep observing whatever is happening. This is God’s Dharma’.*
‘Wow, very good Krishna. In that case, you will stand close to us, observe all our evil acts; as we keep committing more and more sins, you will keep watching us. You want us to commit more blunders, accumulate sins and suffer’, says Uddhava.
Krishna says. ’Uddhava, please realise the deeper meaning of your statements.
*When you understand & realise that I am standing as witness next to you, how could you do anything wrong or bad. You definitely cannot do anything bad. You forget this and think that you can do things without my knowledge.*
That is when you get into trouble.
Dharmaraj’s ignorance was that he thought he can play the game of gambling without my knowledge.
*If Dharmaraj had realized that I am always present with everyone in the form of ‘Sakshi’ (witness), then wouldn’t the game have finished differently?’*
Uddhava was spellbound and was so very overwhelmed by Bhakti.
He said, *‘What a deep philosophy, Kesava.*
*What a great truth!*
*Even praying and performing pooja and calling Him for help are nothing but our feelings / beliefs.*
*When we start believing that nothing moves without Him, how can we not feel his presence as Witness?*
How can we forget this and act?
Throughout Bhagavad Gita, this is the philosophy Krishna imparted to Arjuna.
He was the charioteer as well as guide for Arjuna, but he did not fight Arjuna's War’:-
*Realize that the Ultimate Sakshi / the one who is the Witness is within & within you!*
 
So the two eclipse sun and moon along with Saturn's movement is really showing it's effects. This was predicted that things may go bad. Started with Anti CAA protest, US-Iran scuffle, and now this pandemic.

How long is this going to continue???
 
So the two eclipse sun and moon along with Saturn's movement is really showing it's effects. This was predicted that things may go bad. Started with Anti CAA protest, US-Iran scuffle, and now this pandemic.

How long is this going to continue???
some relief for India will come after 22nd Mar when Mars moves to its exaclted sign Capri and full relief when Venus moves to Tauras on 8th Apr. The big boost for India will come in Aug when Rahu moves to Tauras freeing the eight house of its ill effects and also that of Ketu.
 
some relief for India will come after 22nd Mar when Mars moves to its exaclted sign Capri and full relief when Venus moves to Tauras on 8th Apr. The big boost for India will come in Aug when Rahu moves to Tauras freeing the eight house of its ill effects and also that of Ketu.

Sir are there any Planetary ALIGNMENTS for a showdown with Pakistan

Now that the weather is turning favourable
 
Alrite gents, here is a leap of faith. Il take advantage of my anonymity here and risk all my credibility online (ha ha!)

I will make some disclosure and then make a recommendation. Why the disclosure is necessary before making the recco, hopefully that will be clear by the end of this.

First thing first, Im an engineer from the top institute in the country and have adequate scientific temperament. You see that guy in college with a ride and chicks, that's me.
Something happened and life changed for better. Important things became clear and non important things were left behind. I have witnessed time travel, not the kind you see in movies, it doesn't happen that way. Or may be it does but what I am witness to is the localised kind. I am also witness to inter dimensional travel.
big claims right. Well anonymity has its advantage :)

The why how and where can't be disclosed because its, for a lack of better word secret. The correct phrase in Hindi is 'Gupt'.

In short I am witness to miracles. Some others too but not relevant here.

Now comes the recommendation. I recently came across a couple of books where a mahatma narrates his experiences with 'Siddh' yogis and 'aghoris' of India. The book may seem like a work of fiction to the non initiated. Hence this brief prelude.
For the occult lover also this is a gold mine.

I could only read it in wonderment and utter amazement. Cant recommend this book enough. Its available here for a measly price of 300 + delivery charges

Buy it and thank me later. Its not a figment of imagination of the author though it might seem so occasionally. That much I wanted to insist by telling my experiences earlier.

But it without delay. It mentions part -1 but part -2 comes bundled with it.
 
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Alrite gents, here is a leap of faith. Il take advantage of my anonymity here and risk all my credibility online (ha ha!)

I will make some disclosure and then make a recommendation. Why the disclosure is necessary before making the recco, hopefully that will be clear by the end of this.

First thing first, Im an engineer from the top institute in the country and have adequate scientific temperament. You see that guy in college with a ride and chicks, that's me.
Something happened and life changed for better. Important things became clear and non important things were left behind. I have witnessed time travel, not the kind you see in movies, it doesn't happen that way. Or may be it does but what I am witness to is the localised kind. I am also witness to inter dimensional travel.
big claims right. Well anonymity has its advantage :)

The why how and where can't be disclosed because its, for a lack of better word secret. The correct phrase in Hindi is 'Gupt'.

In short I am witness to miracles. Some others too but not relevant here.

Now comes the recommendation. I recently came across a couple of books where a mahatma narrates his experiences with 'Siddh' yogis and 'aghoris' of India. The book may seem like a work of fiction to the non initiated. Hence this brief prelude.
For the occult lover also this is a gold mine.

I could only read it in wonderment and utter amazement. Cant recommend this book enough. Its available herefor a measly price of 300 + delivery charges

Buy it and thank me later. Its not a figment of imagination of the author though it might seem so occasionally. That much I wanted to insist by telling my experiences earlier.

But it without delay. It mentions part -1 but part -2 comes bundled with it.

What's the name of book?
 
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