Brahmos Supersonic Cruise Missile : News, Updates and Discussions

These guys are trained on PuDF.
Hardcore Braggarts surviving toughest of training on hostile territory.
Imagine opening dozens and dozens of accounts just for trolling and reading insults after insults and still holding the head high and still bragging on daily basis.
They are relentless and will not stop until you submit to their demands.
 
These guys are trained on PuDF.
Hardcore Braggarts surviving toughest of training on hostile territory.
Imagine opening dozens and dozens of accounts just for trolling and reading insults after insults and still holding the head high and still bragging on daily basis.
They are relentless and will not stop until you submit to their demands.
I guess u must be talking about pakistanis.
 
These guys are trained on PuDF.
Hardcore Braggarts surviving toughest of training on hostile territory.
Imagine opening dozens and dozens of accounts just for trolling and reading insults after insults and still holding the head high and still bragging on daily basis.
They are relentless and will not stop until you submit to their demands.

When was the last time a Pak Army chief talked about burying the Past
And Moving Forward , that too after
Getting a pounding for TWO years

You must read P-D-F to see how much they hate Bajwa

But those idiots dont know that Bajwa
Is talking of peace because his Army has lost the Will to Fight India
 
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All gr8 questions and rhetoric.

But if it was a cowering Pakistan, what made India pull down from such a great position of strength?

I suppose international diplomacy came into play. And the fact that Abhinandan got caught, which enabled diplomacy to work in Pak's favour. After 2019, the Pakistanis worked overtime on their FATF ball and chain, which was likely part of the deal brokered by the US to prevent escalation.

Based on the IN and IA Chief's comments, IN was to follow up with Brahmos attacks somewhere. And the next step on the escalation ladder was for the IA to initiate a limited war.

It seems like Abhinandan threw a monkey wrench into our plans. Public opinion switched towards rescuing him. The Pakistanis took their time in returning him, and that was enough time to cool off tensions. Things would have been different if it wasn't for him getting caught.
 
When was the last time a Pak Army chief talked about burying the Past
And Moving Forward , that too after
Getting a pounding for TWO years

You must read P-D-F to see how much they hate Bajwa

But those idiots dont know that Bajwa
Is talking of peace because his Army has lost the Will to Fight India
We should talk less. You guys brag a lot and that doesn’t look good at all.
And BTW even Ayub khan, Bhutto and even the SSG macho man Musharraf talked about peace. Nothing new if Bajwa too following their footsteps. It’s a clever policy to keep our narcissistic politicians like Nehru, Indira and Modi overconfident and distracted and off guard.
There is a reason a bankrupt and six times smaller pax is punching India left right and center since decades
 
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We should talk less. You guys brag a lot and that doesn’t look good at all.
And BTW even Ayub khan, Bhutto and even the SSG macho man Musharraf talked about peace. Nothing new if Bajwa too following their footsteps. It’s a clever policy to keep our narcissistic politicians like Nehru, Indira and Modi overconfident and distracted and off guard.
There is a reason a bankrupt and six times smaller pax is punching India left right and center since decades

The only thing that matters is your Capabilities , which are getting better under Modi Govt

And Bajwa has NOT impressed anybody in India by talking of peace

We know the Reality of Pakistani Intentions

Infact after Chinese aggressive behaviour , A Two Front War is an absolute certainity

My question is even though China was and is Fully Deployed in Ladakh
Why is Pakistan still HESITATING to start a War ; The 2 reasons that can be are

1 They dont believe in Chinese Capabilities

2 They are afraid of India
 
I suppose international diplomacy came into play. And the fact that Abhinandan got caught, which enabled diplomacy to work in Pak's favour. After 2019, the Pakistanis worked overtime on their FATF ball and chain, which was likely part of the deal brokered by the US to prevent escalation.

Based on the IN and IA Chief's comments, IN was to follow up with Brahmos attacks somewhere. And the next step on the escalation ladder was for the IA to initiate a limited war.

It seems like Abhinandan threw a monkey wrench into our plans. Public opinion switched towards rescuing him. The Pakistanis took their time in returning him, and that was enough time to cool off tensions. Things would have been different if it wasn't for him getting caught.
Honestly, ONE god damn man should not be able to put a stopper in India's plans.
And why the hell they chose ONE single worthless place to hit. Just after hitting it Sushma Swaraj declared the action over. It was a Shagun alright. Tokenism.

They had Markaz e Taiba which is in range of Pinaka rockets.
They had Muzzarpur base which can again be hit by our MBRL.

There were too many places.

Infact come think of it. These places should be marked and exercise should have been done in advance to hit them hard. When the terrorist incidence happen, rest should work like a clockwork. At this time send these assests here and at this time all of them hit all of these places and turn them to ash. Afterwards world can come in and decide what to do.

Due to "Shagun" tendencies, we are always caught with our pants down. Tokenism in everything.
 
I suppose international diplomacy came into play. And the fact that Abhinandan got caught, which enabled diplomacy to work in Pak's favour. After 2019, the Pakistanis worked overtime on their FATF ball and chain, which was likely part of the deal brokered by the US to prevent escalation.

Based on the IN and IA Chief's comments, IN was to follow up with Brahmos attacks somewhere. And the next step on the escalation ladder was for the IA to initiate a limited war.

It seems like Abhinandan threw a monkey wrench into our plans. Public opinion switched towards rescuing him. The Pakistanis took their time in returning him, and that was enough time to cool off tensions. Things would have been different if it wasn't for him getting caught.
A single pow is not supposed to hinder any government from executing its strategic plan over enemy. I dont think Abhinandan has nothing to do with escalating the ladder from outside. Infact we didn't have any plan other than bombing some random non military target inside Pakistan.
 
Why is Pakistan still HESITATING to start a War ; The 2 reasons that can be are

1 They dont believe in Chinese Capabilities

2 They are afraid of India
Or

3. They are afraid of US retaliation.

A war here will bring US into play, eventually. After India has been soundly beaten by China and Pakistan. More due to Indian incompetence than anything else. That will a major headache for Pakistan. They will have to make a choice then. Whom to listen to. China or US. And its not in their favor to be faced with that question. Yet.
 
A single pow is not supposed to hinder any government from executing its strategic plan over enemy. I dont think Abhinandan has nothing to do with escalating the ladder from outside. Infact we didn't have any plan other than bombing some random non military target inside Pakistan.
Let me correct it. We NEVER have any plans.
 
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I suppose international diplomacy came into play. And the fact that Abhinandan got caught, which enabled diplomacy to work in Pak's favour. After 2019, the Pakistanis worked overtime on their FATF ball and chain, which was likely part of the deal brokered by the US to prevent escalation.

Based on the IN and IA Chief's comments, IN was to follow up with Brahmos attacks somewhere. And the next step on the escalation ladder was for the IA to initiate a limited war.

It seems like Abhinandan threw a monkey wrench into our plans. Public opinion switched towards rescuing him. The Pakistanis took their time in returning him, and that was enough time to cool off tensions. Things would have been different if it wasn't for him getting caught.
Sure...
 
When was the last time a Pak Army chief talked about burying the Past
And Moving Forward , that too after
Getting a pounding for TWO years

You must read P-D-F to see how much they hate Bajwa

But those idiots dont know that Bajwa
Is talking of peace because his Army has lost the Will to Fight India
What made India lose the will to sustain escalatory pounding at LoC?
Intl pressure,
it's budget,
Logistics.
Fatigue,
Elections
Covid

All of the above?
 
I wonder where the flight tests will happen. We don't have a flight test platform. Russia again ?



It's going to Russia for tests. 4:15 onwards.

Incidentally , the Nirbhay is deemed by the DRDO to have cleared all it's trials pending induction into the armed forces as per the DRDO here . I wonder what the delay is all about . More to the point , what's the ITCM all about .

Recently there were speculations that the Nirbhay was tested but since there wasn't any communication from the DRDO / MoD , it was also speculated that the tests may not have met all the parameters or that further tests would be carried out in a few days post which communication to that effect would be made public.

Saurav Jha has tweeted that no test of the Nirbhay was carried out in the past few Days. This video although 4 months old seems to validate such a notion.
 
Incidentally , the Nirbhay is deemed by the DRDO to have cleared all it's trials pending induction into the armed forces as per the DRDO here . I wonder what the delay is all about . More to the point , what's the ITCM all about .
The ITCM looks increasingly like a case of changing requirements by users at the 11th hour. The Nirbhay's range is less than ideal. When the project started you could say that we don't have all the tech needed to make a longer range missile. That argument doesn't hold anymore.

I hope we get some clarity soon. It will be disappointing if the ITCM ends up with the same specs as Nirbhay.

Recently there were speculations that the Nirbhay was tested but since there wasn't any communication from the DRDO / MoD , it was also speculated that the tests may not have met all the parameters or that further tests would be carried out in a few days post which communication to that effect would be made public.

Saurav Jha has tweeted that no test of the Nirbhay was carried out in the past few Days. This video although 4 months old seems to validate such a notion.
There was a NOTAM out if I recall correctly. Maybe Nirbhay used as a platform for testing components meant for the ITCM.
 
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It's going to Russia for tests. 4:15 onwards.

Incidentally , the Nirbhay is deemed by the DRDO to have cleared all it's trials pending induction into the armed forces as per the DRDO here . I wonder what the delay is all about . More to the point , what's the ITCM all about .

Recently there were speculations that the Nirbhay was tested but since there wasn't any communication from the DRDO / MoD , it was also speculated that the tests may not have met all the parameters or that further tests would be carried out in a few days post which communication to that effect would be made public.

Saurav Jha has tweeted that no test of the Nirbhay was carried out in the past few Days. This video although 4 months old seems to validate such a notion.
Original Nirbhay was not built according to a particular service requirement. They have finished the development now its up to services to induct it as what it is if they want to.

Now four different missiles are coming out of the Nirbhay program which is fully according to different specific service requirements:
  • Land-based: Indigenous Technology Cruise Missile (ITCM)
  • Ship launched: Long Range Land Attack Cruise Missile (LRLACM)
  • Air-Launched Cruise Missile : (ALCM)
  • Submarine Launched Cruise Missile (SLCM)
Thus Nirbhay was closed as a Tech Demonstrator (TD) from my understanding.
 
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Original Nirbhay was not built according to a particular service requirement. They have finished the development now its up to services to induct it as what it is if they want to.

Now four different missiles are coming out of the Nirbhay program which is fully according to different specific service requirements:
  • Land-based: Indigenous Technology Cruise Missile (ITCM)
  • Ship launched: Long Range Land Attack Cruise Missile (LRLACM)
  • Air-Launched Cruise Missile : (ALCM)
  • Submarine Launched Cruise Missile (SLCM)
Thus Nirbhay was closed as a Tech Demonstrator (TD) from my understanding.
Last summer ,we had definite reports indicating deployment of Nirbhay in view of the situation on the LAC .

This year at the Aero India Show you've got a senior personnel of the DRDO make a comment on the status of the Nirbhay indicating approval of manufacture by the armed forces followed by induction which in her words is imminent .

Beyond this , I really don't know what does one comment on . You could direct your post to you know who & easily fill up 3-4 pages in a day or less & be none the wiser at the end of it all .
 
Last summer ,we had definite reports indicating deployment of Nirbhay in view of the situation on the LAC .

This year at the Aero India Show you've got a senior personnel of the DRDO make a comment on the status of the Nirbhay indicating approval of manufacture by the armed forces followed by induction which in her words is imminent .

Beyond this , I really don't know what does one comment on . You could direct your post to you know who & easily fill up 3-4 pages in a day or less & be none the wiser at the end of it all .
Nirbhay was never ordered or inducted thus no "deployment". DRDO offers n number of "failed" programs to services from prahaar to Rustom-1. Their words doesn't mean much.

You don't have to take every post personally. I didn't even disagree with you.
 
Nirbhay was never ordered or inducted thus no "deployment". DRDO offers n number of "failed" programs to services from prahaar to Rustom-1. Their words doesn't mean much.
So , as per you , the Nirbhay won't be inducted because you deem it as a failed product whereas several technologies developed during the course of the Nirbhay would be utilised in different iterations of the ITCM & there's a definite requirement for such missiles immediately given the situation on our borders .


You don't have to take every post personally. I didn't even disagree with you.
What ??! Where did I take it personally . I merely made the said comment in jest.