Brahmos Supersonic Cruise Missile : News, Updates and Discussions

Perhaps you have forgotten but the Continuous state of a Hot LOC along with IAF Caps , for 2 years after
Feb 2019 , is what has finally made Bajwa and Pak Army talk of Peace and
"Burying the Past "
The reality is determined by actions not words. The day Pakistan agrees that Kashmir is a part of India OR retreats from any real position on ground, we can say any of our power had any impact. I dont see it happening anytime in future simply because Indian government always says this : "Do not cross LoC!".
 
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Not true. We are taught to act cowardly by our society and education system.
Continues brainwashing that Gandian pacifism is panacea to all problems of life,big or small. We are taught not to confront bullies but to avoid or submit to them. We sugarcoat our cowardice with philosophical means.
We are quite adapt to this practice
Being Hindu is whole package. Society and education are integral part of it. I doubt Gandhian pacifism has any hold on us left. I mean current government is anything but Gandhian. There is an inherent incompetence in Hinduism. I cannt pin point where and how it is but somehow ALL of our operations, actions fall flat. Be it Covid, LoC, LAC anything.

I don't know what we are doing wrong but results have always been "boys played well". Folks joke is on us. I mean heck our lynch mobs fail to kill people. In Pakistan when they go lynching kafirs they kill entire families. In India, we only beat the guy and leave him. Incompetnce is hard-coded in us. Why? I don't know.

I believe it has something to do with our belief in doing "Shagun". Tokenism.

"Shagun" in buying vaccines. Remember only 10 million were ordered in Jan.
"Shagun" in buying oxygen generators.
"Shagun" in doing "intelligence driven bombing" empty madarsa. We tried hitting a empty militant training base (leaving god massive public terrorist base in Mirpur/Let HQ.
"Shagun" in rioting. Heck, our rioters cannt hit hard.
"Shagun" in defending borders.
"Shagun" in buying weapons. 36 Rafales. LOL!
"Shagun" in our support to BRA.
 
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Sargodha, lol.
Indian government can't even hack the pressure of sustaining a hot LOC, and you want missile attack on sargodha. Those days of us having the stomach to fight are gone buddy.
After balakot, PAF came into India, shot a mig21 at the border, captured a downed pilot, and Indian government did jack shit. Just chest thumping of we will act at time and place of choosing....
I guess u must be not aware that IA is carrying out pre emptive strikes inside Pakistan occupied Kashmir since 2019 to target terrorists.

We were going to do missile attack on Pakistan if they had not returned the pilot.
Being Hindu is whole package. Society and education are integral part of it. I doubt Gandhian pacifism has any hold on us left. I mean current government is anything but Gandhian. There is an inherent incompetence in Hinduism. I cannt pin point where and how it is but somehow ALL of our operations, actions fall flat. Be it Covid, LoC, LAC anything.

I don't know what we are doing wrong but results have always been "boys played well". Folks joke is on us. I mean heck our lynch mobs fail to kill people. In Pakistan when they go lynching kafirs they kill entire families. In India, we only beat the guy and leave him. Incompetnce is hard-coded in us. Why? I don't know.
Off topic.
 
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Being Hindu is whole package. Society and education are integral part of it. I doubt Gandhian pacifism has any hold on us left. I mean current government is anything but Gandhian. There is an inherent incompetence in Hinduism. I cannt pin point where and how it is but somehow ALL of our operations, actions fail flat. Be it Covid, LoC, LAC anything.
I don't know what we are doing wrong but results have always been "boys played well". Folks joke is on us.
Im not that pessimistic. Yes we have many inherent flaws in our society being a large but poor and heterogeneous population and government lacking in administrative capacity.
But things will improve over time if we can continue our focus and go haywire.
 
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The reality is determined by actions not words. The day Pakistan agrees that Kashmir is a part of India OR retreats from any real position on ground, we can say any of our power had any impact. I dont see it happening anytime in future simply because Indian government always says this : "Do not cross LoC!".

There was a time when Pakistan demanded Plebiscite in Kashmir

Today Pakistan has been left with no choice but to.demand the restoration of Statehood

Two years of a hot LOC has made them realize where they stand

That is why they are now talking of peace and burying the Past
 
I guess u must be not aware that IA is carrying out pre emptive strikes inside Pakistan occupied Kashmir since 2019 to target terrorists.

We were going to do missile attack on Pakistan if they had not returned the pilot.

Off topic.


Damn it, you made me spill my coffee.
 
We were going to do missile attack on Pakistan if they had not returned the pilot.
You must be assuming that it will be a Brahmos attack, right?
19:00 - 19: 20 you will see what is indian narrative on Abhinandan's return.
 
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These guys are trained on PuDF.
Hardcore Braggarts surviving toughest of training on hostile territory.
Imagine opening dozens and dozens of accounts just for trolling and reading insults after insults and still holding the head high and still bragging on daily basis.
They are relentless and will not stop until you submit to their demands.
 
These guys are trained on PuDF.
Hardcore Braggarts surviving toughest of training on hostile territory.
Imagine opening dozens and dozens of accounts just for trolling and reading insults after insults and still holding the head high and still bragging on daily basis.
They are relentless and will not stop until you submit to their demands.
I guess u must be talking about pakistanis.
 
These guys are trained on PuDF.
Hardcore Braggarts surviving toughest of training on hostile territory.
Imagine opening dozens and dozens of accounts just for trolling and reading insults after insults and still holding the head high and still bragging on daily basis.
They are relentless and will not stop until you submit to their demands.

When was the last time a Pak Army chief talked about burying the Past
And Moving Forward , that too after
Getting a pounding for TWO years

You must read P-D-F to see how much they hate Bajwa

But those idiots dont know that Bajwa
Is talking of peace because his Army has lost the Will to Fight India
 
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(No need for sir)
All gr8 questions and rhetoric.

But if it was a cowering Pakistan, what made India pull down from such a great position of strength?

I suppose international diplomacy came into play. And the fact that Abhinandan got caught, which enabled diplomacy to work in Pak's favour. After 2019, the Pakistanis worked overtime on their FATF ball and chain, which was likely part of the deal brokered by the US to prevent escalation.

Based on the IN and IA Chief's comments, IN was to follow up with Brahmos attacks somewhere. And the next step on the escalation ladder was for the IA to initiate a limited war.

It seems like Abhinandan threw a monkey wrench into our plans. Public opinion switched towards rescuing him. The Pakistanis took their time in returning him, and that was enough time to cool off tensions. Things would have been different if it wasn't for him getting caught.
 
When was the last time a Pak Army chief talked about burying the Past
And Moving Forward , that too after
Getting a pounding for TWO years

You must read P-D-F to see how much they hate Bajwa

But those idiots dont know that Bajwa
Is talking of peace because his Army has lost the Will to Fight India
We should talk less. You guys brag a lot and that doesn’t look good at all.
And BTW even Ayub khan, Bhutto and even the SSG macho man Musharraf talked about peace. Nothing new if Bajwa too following their footsteps. It’s a clever policy to keep our narcissistic politicians like Nehru, Indira and Modi overconfident and distracted and off guard.
There is a reason a bankrupt and six times smaller pax is punching India left right and center since decades
 
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We should talk less. You guys brag a lot and that doesn’t look good at all.
And BTW even Ayub khan, Bhutto and even the SSG macho man Musharraf talked about peace. Nothing new if Bajwa too following their footsteps. It’s a clever policy to keep our narcissistic politicians like Nehru, Indira and Modi overconfident and distracted and off guard.
There is a reason a bankrupt and six times smaller pax is punching India left right and center since decades

The only thing that matters is your Capabilities , which are getting better under Modi Govt

And Bajwa has NOT impressed anybody in India by talking of peace

We know the Reality of Pakistani Intentions

Infact after Chinese aggressive behaviour , A Two Front War is an absolute certainity

My question is even though China was and is Fully Deployed in Ladakh
Why is Pakistan still HESITATING to start a War ; The 2 reasons that can be are

1 They dont believe in Chinese Capabilities

2 They are afraid of India
 
I suppose international diplomacy came into play. And the fact that Abhinandan got caught, which enabled diplomacy to work in Pak's favour. After 2019, the Pakistanis worked overtime on their FATF ball and chain, which was likely part of the deal brokered by the US to prevent escalation.

Based on the IN and IA Chief's comments, IN was to follow up with Brahmos attacks somewhere. And the next step on the escalation ladder was for the IA to initiate a limited war.

It seems like Abhinandan threw a monkey wrench into our plans. Public opinion switched towards rescuing him. The Pakistanis took their time in returning him, and that was enough time to cool off tensions. Things would have been different if it wasn't for him getting caught.
Honestly, ONE god damn man should not be able to put a stopper in India's plans.
And why the hell they chose ONE single worthless place to hit. Just after hitting it Sushma Swaraj declared the action over. It was a Shagun alright. Tokenism.

They had Markaz e Taiba which is in range of Pinaka rockets.
They had Muzzarpur base which can again be hit by our MBRL.

There were too many places.

Infact come think of it. These places should be marked and exercise should have been done in advance to hit them hard. When the terrorist incidence happen, rest should work like a clockwork. At this time send these assests here and at this time all of them hit all of these places and turn them to ash. Afterwards world can come in and decide what to do.

Due to "Shagun" tendencies, we are always caught with our pants down. Tokenism in everything.
 
I suppose international diplomacy came into play. And the fact that Abhinandan got caught, which enabled diplomacy to work in Pak's favour. After 2019, the Pakistanis worked overtime on their FATF ball and chain, which was likely part of the deal brokered by the US to prevent escalation.

Based on the IN and IA Chief's comments, IN was to follow up with Brahmos attacks somewhere. And the next step on the escalation ladder was for the IA to initiate a limited war.

It seems like Abhinandan threw a monkey wrench into our plans. Public opinion switched towards rescuing him. The Pakistanis took their time in returning him, and that was enough time to cool off tensions. Things would have been different if it wasn't for him getting caught.
A single pow is not supposed to hinder any government from executing its strategic plan over enemy. I dont think Abhinandan has nothing to do with escalating the ladder from outside. Infact we didn't have any plan other than bombing some random non military target inside Pakistan.
 
Why is Pakistan still HESITATING to start a War ; The 2 reasons that can be are

1 They dont believe in Chinese Capabilities

2 They are afraid of India
Or

3. They are afraid of US retaliation.

A war here will bring US into play, eventually. After India has been soundly beaten by China and Pakistan. More due to Indian incompetence than anything else. That will a major headache for Pakistan. They will have to make a choice then. Whom to listen to. China or US. And its not in their favor to be faced with that question. Yet.
 
A single pow is not supposed to hinder any government from executing its strategic plan over enemy. I dont think Abhinandan has nothing to do with escalating the ladder from outside. Infact we didn't have any plan other than bombing some random non military target inside Pakistan.
Let me correct it. We NEVER have any plans.
 
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