Brahmos Supersonic Cruise Missile : News, Updates and Discussions

safriz said:
Fact remains that the phat missile is too heavy to be carried by even the biggest IAF jet the MKI.
27 MKI were to be specially strengthened to carry Brahmos. But so far only 3 have been completed with additional girders , so that it can carry the 2.5 tonner, underslung.
Sad state of preparedness and Indian businessmen milking the project.
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IAF to arm more Sukhois with BrahMos missiles, even as plan afoot to upgrade entire fleet indigenously | India News - Times of India

India News: Impressed with the first test of 450-km BrahMos from a Sukhoi-30MKI jet in the Bay of Bengal in May, IAF plans to send another 20-25 jets for the stru
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"These Sukhois will be in addition to the original 40 jets earmarked for BrahMos missiles. Thirty-five of the first 40 Sukhois with the 290-km BrahMos have been delivered back to IAF by HAL," a source said.
 
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IAF to arm more Sukhois with BrahMos missiles, even as plan afoot to upgrade entire fleet indigenously | India News - Times of India

India News: Impressed with the first test of 450-km BrahMos from a Sukhoi-30MKI jet in the Bay of Bengal in May, IAF plans to send another 20-25 jets for the stru
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"These Sukhois will be in addition to the original 40 jets earmarked for BrahMos missiles. Thirty-five of the first 40 Sukhois with the 290-km BrahMos have been delivered back to IAF by HAL," a source said.
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That's good news 😂.
Since the aircraft had to have significant structures added to the fuselage. The aircraft after modification is heavier.
What happens with heavy aircrafts?
Lesser range , lower maneuverability.
So basically IAF messed up 70 jests for the sake of a single weapon system.
😂😂😂
 
safriz said:
That's good news 😂.
Since the aircraft had to have significant structures added to the fuselage. The aircraft after modification is heavier.
What happens with heavy aircrafts?
Lesser range , lower maneuverability.
So basically IAF messed up 70 jests for the sake of a single weapon system.
😂😂😂
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Oh please!

There is always a loaded and unloaded weight of an aircraft. Su-30MKIs carry 9600 KG of fuel internally. Am I to believe a fully fueled MKI is going to be ineffective? Few 100 KGs of weight (due to strengthing of pylons to hang this 2.5 tonne missile) is not going to make any impact on the monster that is Su-30 MKI.

Not to mention, engines have ability to "uprate" themselves slightly for few 100s of KGs of additional load. At worst it will mean replacing engines a bit earlier by changing SoP.

Being able to fire a 800 km range weapon which no adversory has any ability to intercept and can take out enemy ships, bases is a massive up upgrade. That will more than compensate for any loss of range.

Aircrafts always change their weight profile anytime they integrate new equipment or new weapon. Am I to believe each time they do so, they become ineffective?

Am I to believe that J-10s are less effective because the now carry an additional 10x100 KG due to upgrading from PL-12 to PL-15?
 
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safriz said:
That's good news 😂.
Since the aircraft had to have significant structures added to the fuselage. The aircraft after modification is heavier.
What happens with heavy aircrafts?
Lesser range , lower maneuverability.
So basically IAF messed up 70 jests for the sake of a single weapon system.
😂😂😂
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Su 30 MKIs routinely carry 3 x 1500 KG bombs and 6 x 600 KG Kh31 missiles. So carrying a lone 2500 KG missile on central pylon is no big thing. It will leave enough weight to carry few 154 KG Astra missiles too.
 
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safriz said:
That's good news 😂.
Since the aircraft had to have significant structures added to the fuselage. The aircraft after modification is heavier.
What happens with heavy aircrafts?
Lesser range , lower maneuverability.
So basically IAF messed up 70 jests for the sake of a single weapon system.
😂😂😂
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The best radar range in the PN is 250kms. The number of BrahMos A, the version carried by the Su-30s, in the IN inventory was 200 and will easily exceed 500. Any PN vessel operating out of the safety of Pakistan's shore based defence becomes vulnerable to the IAF squadrons.

Now, look at the map of the Arabian Sea. A Sukhoi approaching from the South West of Gwadar with aerial refueling, can threaten from a side hitherto not possible.

Do you still feel like laughing?
 
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safriz said:
That's good news 😂.
Since the aircraft had to have significant structures added to the fuselage. The aircraft after modification is heavier.
What happens with heavy aircrafts?
Lesser range , lower maneuverability.
So basically IAF messed up 70 jests for the sake of a single weapon system.
😂😂😂
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We are fine with it, 'cause not all MKIs have air combat duties, many pilots train exclusively for ground attack. The modified MKI's job is to just fire standoff weapons and that's the role pilots assigned to this jet will perfect. We have an excess of this type as well.
 
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safriz said:
That's good news 😂.
Since the aircraft had to have significant structures added to the fuselage. The aircraft after modification is heavier.
What happens with heavy aircrafts?
Lesser range , lower maneuverability.
So basically IAF messed up 70 jests for the sake of a single weapon system.
😂😂😂
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Very bad news for you and your Chinese friends, bhaijan;)

We have plans to keep around 150 MKIs for Air Dominance role while eventually over 100 would be converted to carry BrahMos-A. These planes are distributed among all squadrons. So all squadrons have/will have both MKIs(ASF+ mini bombers).

Even further bad news for you guys is BrahMos-NG which every single MKI and our every other plane will carry. It will have around 300kms range and same Mach 3 cruise speed.


I sense deep fear behind your smiles:)
 
Rajput Lion said:
Even further bad news for you guys is BrahMos-NG which every single MKI and our every other plane will carry. It will have around 300kms range and same Mach 3 cruise speed.
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Brahmos-NG will make Brahmos available on even Tejas. It will reduce its weight to about 1500 KG from current 2500 KG.
 
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They will likely bump the speed a bit more because of less weight, normal one cruise at ~ 2.5mach , Ng they showed a bit more. I think they will use the same warhead config (which our armed forced want to improve on naturally) of 200kg for the export version.

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marich01 said:
They will likely bump the speed a bit more because of less weight, normal one cruise at ~ 2.5mach , Ng they showed a bit more. I think they will use the same warhead config (which our armed forced want to improve on naturally) of 200kg for the export version.

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This will be a lethal combination for Tejas. buy the Tejas fighter jet with the BrahMos missiles or purchase a package of at least 50 BrahMos missiles should allow Tejas to be exported for many years.
 
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This will be a lethal combination for Tejas. buy the Tejas fighter jet with the BrahMos missiles or purchase a package of at least 50 BrahMos missiles should allow Tejas to be exported for many years.
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Combine that with Tejas's small size, small RCS and huge numbers we'll eventually have(MK1/1A/MK2) and we've a kickass light weight strike fighter too.

Talking about export, you're correct, Tejas with BrahMos NG is a mouth-watering proposition for most of our friendly developing countries. Just like Rafale, Tejas is taking time in finding its export success, but it will take off after it finds its initial customer. BrahMos NG could be that impetus that Tejas needs to dominate export market.
 
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Hello, Did Russia transferred its Zircon missile technology to BrahMos Aerospace for BrahMos 2 development?
 
Indigenous fuel being tested, hopefully the vajrabega next.

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DMSRDE Prepares Indigenous Fuel for BrahMos | Kanpur News - Times of India

DMSRDE prepares indigenous fuel for BrahMos, testing begins. This achievement marks a significant step towards self-reliance in missile technology. Read more about it here.
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below is the approved list of different fuel stuff that we make & cemilac certified

CEMILAC TA | Defence Research and Development Organisation - DRDO, Ministry of Defence, Government of India

www.drdo.gov.in www.drdo.gov.in
 
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