I thought since the F-4. 0 is on order & the same would be available from 2023-24 onwards, the production would commence then.
Dassault Rafale - Updates and Discussion
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There is room for one Rafale per month from 2025 onwards, but for the moment the Slot is being held for Finland, when Switzerland released its slot it was taken by Egypt.
When you bring in politics into the equation, I gotta agree with you. But if they go only by tender rules, and consider cost at this stage of the tender, then the Gripen is the obvious choice. Regardless, it seems the RCAF feel Gripen meets their requirements, since it has been shortlisted.
While I didn't follow the Canadian frigate program, a cursory look says the FREMM bid was unsolicited. And most of what I've seen about the Type 26 choice is that it was selected based on tech specs rather than cost. The tender rules are not the same.
All these speculations about LCA Mk2 and MRFA are ridiculous.
LCA Mk2 is happening. MRFA is also happening. Neither program conflicts with the other and the IAF has the budget size necessary to make both programs happen simultaneously together today itself ($1.5B + $2.5B per year), never mind the future defence budget that will actually pay for it.
This thread was created for non-Indian deals, peeps.
LCA Mk2 is happening. MRFA is also happening. Neither program conflicts with the other and the IAF has the budget size necessary to make both programs happen simultaneously together today itself ($1.5B + $2.5B per year), never mind the future defence budget that will actually pay for it.
This thread was created for non-Indian deals, peeps.
Some years ago , I read that during a similar incident , the Russian Sukhoi Pilot
Tilted his Wings and Showed his Air To Air Missiles
The source behind him was "Mediapart" and if I remember it's French investigate organization (journal)?Egypt was the first customer of both the Mirage 2000 and the Rafale.
But yes, India has been the source of a lot of very enthusiastic positive coverage for our beautiful birds. Though that was marred by a lot of not-so-positive coverage thanks to Rahul's attempt at turning it into a new Bofors scandal. And India is the only customer who has not yet made a repeat order after receiving the jet -- Egypt, Qatar, and Greece all have ordered more, with Egypt even promising to order even more later.
No, no GaN on F4 radar. They found another way to improve it, shortening travel time of signal in electronic circuits, bit it is highly classified.
Okay, then. The radar's small size needed compensation using more advanced TRMs, but it's gonna fall short now. Better system design for GaAs isn't gonna compensate for GaN's advantages. All it really serves to do is keep the jet cheap.
So, with no GaN and conformal arrays, it's become a contemporary jet, ie almost the same as what everyone else is offering in MRFA in terms of electronics hardware.
What about GaN for SPECTRA?
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As per the @Picard, Both OSF and EOTS are very similar systems (IRST+FLIR) with EOTS having higher tracking range and 360 degree coverage.
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As per the @Picard, Both OSF and EOTS are very similar systems (IRST+FLIR) with EOTS having higher tracking range and 360 degree coverage.
Dassault Rafale vs F-35
Introduction This article will compare Rafale C and F-35A. Both aircraft have similar, almost identical purposes: they are to replace most other fixed wing aircraft types in use by their respective…
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That's a comparison done by a random guy called Picard. You can't just look at missile range, it's about radar range vs EW too, and with GaN the larger APG-79(V)4 beats the RBE2 AESA and any future proposed variant of it that could possibly fit in a Rafale. Since the APG-79(V)4 is also configured for EA there is no chance in hell of a Rafale winning BVR, even with AAMs that can reach the moon.Here is a good analysis of both platforms
Dassault Rafale M versus F/A-18E/F Super Hornet: carrier fighters compared
Less than a thousand days separated the service entry of the French Rafale M and the Boeing F/A-18E/F Super Hornet. These two extremely potent fighter-bombers are that rare breed, a fast jet able t…hushkit.net
So it’s not false to say that even in BVR fights, Rafale can easily outclass F18 (sans AIM 260) . The odds are even worse in WVR/Dogfight for a F18 pilot.
Much like a Spectra with GaN.
防衛費5.4兆円 ８年連続で過去最大を更新 概算要求の主要兵器を全取得へ 軍拡がさらに加速 ：東京新聞 TOKYO Web
政府が２４日に閣議決定した２０２２年度予算案で、防衛費は前年度当初予算から５８３億円増（１・１％増）の５兆４００５億円に上り、８年連続...
Japanese defense budget released - they will buy 12 more F-35s, 8 A versions and 4 B versions - and will also will make a longer range Type 12 Ashm which could be launched from the ground, and potentially the P-1.
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Is it so ?That's a comparison done by a random guy called Picard. You can't just look at missile range, it's about radar range vs EW too, and with GaN the larger APG-79(V)4 beats the RBE2 AESA and any future proposed variant of it that could possibly fit in a Rafale.
Much like a Spectra with GaN.
防衛費5.4兆円 ８年連続で過去最大を更新 概算要求の主要兵器を全取得へ 軍拡がさらに加速 ：東京新聞 TOKYO Web
政府が２４日に閣議決定した２０２２年度予算案で、防衛費は前年度当初予算から５８３億円増（１・１％増）の５兆４００５億円に上り、８年連続...www.tokyo-np.co.jp
Japanese defense budget released - they will buy 12 more F-35s, 8 A versions and 4 B versions - and will also will make a longer range Type 12 Ashm which could be launched from the ground, and potentially the P-1.
Hushkit article is by a guy named Justin Bronx from RUSI Foundation, UK.
And @Picard is the same guy who goes by the same name in this forum.
Do yourself a favour. Ignore anything on Wordpress.Is it so ?
Hushkit article is by a guy named Justin Bronx from RUSI Foundation, UK.
And @Picard is the same guy who goes by the same name in this forum.
I think you have mixed up two different articles. First one was from Hushkit and second one was from Wordpress.
And BTW Rafale is well equipped to operate in that kind of electronic threat environment. It was designed to do so thanks to its SPECTRA,OSF and MICA-IR combo.
The APG-79 due to its limited size and power, is not a big threat (IMO) but the EA pods like ALQ-218 receiver, ALQ-99 tactical jamming pods, ALQ-227 Communication Countermeasures Set and The AN/ALQ-249, the Next Generation JP that
it carries on its pylons, do pose a great threat to any enemy aircraft
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I think @halloweene is very pessimistic, and I don't think he has any recent information to back it up. Also I think he is confusing what I had said about the SPECTRA antennas that were to be GaN already for F3R with the radar for F4.
So I'll give my perspective.
The F4 program is not showing any signs of being behind or narrowing its field. It was planned at launch that F4.1 would be delivered in 2024 and F4.2 in 2025. Then Dassault declared that F4.2 would be delivered in 2024 and it was deduced that F4.1 would be delivered in 2023. As F4.1 is currently being tested, this schedule seems possible with a delivery rather at the end of the year than at the beginning.
The GaN was foreseen in the description of F4. On the other hand, we know that F4.1 avoids complex structural modifications, which means that F4.2 does incorporate such modifications.
So for me, F4.1 will have GaN for the SPECTRA antennas, but the retrofit may not happen on all AAE aircraft. It will be able to handle the main radar antenna, whether it is PESA, AESA or AESA GaN, but again we will probably only have a few antennas. Moreover the delivery of these antennas has no reason to be synchronous with the delivery of F4.1. it could take place at the same time as F4.2.
The major new feature of F4.1 will be the connectivity with a satellite antenna and a new intra-patrol data link that will extend data fusion to the patrol under good conditions. The capabilities associated with this connectivity are the ones that will require the most training for the crews and it's good that we can start them a year ahead of F4.2.
F4.2 will have new wiring, new cooling systems and openings to install new antennas on the aircraft. Some will be installed and managed and others will arrive a bit later without requiring a new standard but only an upgrade like F4.2R or F4.2O4T! As Thales said it might not be quite ready (when Dassault brought forward the date of F4.2) I think that the main Radar antenna will be GaN but that the side antennas will arrive in 2025 as originally planned.
Yep, this is what was originally said. F4.1 will come with GaN for Spectra, ie, INCAS, with the radar being the same old one or only slightly upgraded. Also including a new helmet, SDR and patrol link. And F4.2 will have structural modifications to incorporate conformal arrays.
So if the main radar has GaN from F4.2 onwards, then it's fine even if conformal arrays become an option later on. Conformal arrays can be retrofitted anytime, but I don't think GaAs to GaN will be as simple as PESA to AESA, rather I think it's going to need significant modifications.
So the options are having practically nothing new for F4.2, as per @halloweene, and having everything, as per you. That spectrum is way too wide.
I'm waiting for a phone appointment with a friend who is still working on it. The exchange will have to be done on a Thales line, so not before about ten days. The advantage of this caution is that he will tell me more, the difficulty will be to know what it is possible to communicate at the end ...