Dassault Rafale - Updates and Discussion

For the sake of discussion, when you are Sqd leader, you try to keep a certain homogeneity between your planes, including about flying hours.
 
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Israël can't be an option for political reasons.
France can't sell Rafales to Egypt and Israël
It's quite obvious that Israël would be glad to by that marvelous plane, and Israël remember very well how the Mirages worked in their hands. They know the qualities of Dassault's products.
But I think it's an impossible deal.
 
Mostly Israel's defense budget is entirely paid for by the USA on the condition that they only buy from the USA. They're not gonna lose that sweet deal by buying French aircraft.

And how is attempting a mediation a sign they'd buy the Rafale? That doesn't follow.
 
Didn't Israel steal Mirage designs and data, develop it further as Lavi and then sell it to Chinese to eventually make J-10 ?
 
Didn't Israel steal Mirage designs and data, develop it further as Lavi and then sell it to Chinese to eventually make J-10 ?
Nothing surprising there . Sounds exactly like how one Jew repays a favor from another Jew . In fact one should be disturbed if Israel didn't commit any such act.
 
Hopefully you're right. The world got a bit more dangerous since the 24th.
We should have gone with a full mmrca deal of 124 Rafale in 2016 itself. Had we done we would have at least 4 squadrons of Rafales by now and would have got the entire 6 squadrons of 6 by 2024 and now we could have excercised optional to take it to original 189 numbers and throw some more for Rafale Ms. It would have created a strong deterrent against China. But Alas piecemeal 36 ordered after so much drama. Hope we don't regret for that decision if there is a war and we lose for not having enough Rafales... 🤐☹️😢
 
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We are going another set of Russian fighters instead.

The Russian deals are still active, but they don't really have to compete with Rafale due to the timeframe.
We should have gone with a full mmrca deal of 124 Rafale in 2016 itself. Had we done we would have at least 4 squadrons of Rafales by now and would have got the entire 6 squadrons of 6 by 2024 and now we could have excercised optional to take it to original 189 numbers and throw some more for Rafale Ms. It would have created a strong deterrent against China. But Alas piecemeal 36 ordered after so much drama. Hope we don't regret for that decision if there is a war and we lose for not having enough Rafales... 🤐☹️😢

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We should have gone with a full mmrca deal of 124 Rafale in 2016 itself. Had we done we would have at least 4 squadrons of Rafales by now and would have got the entire 6 squadrons of 6 by 2024 and now we could have excercised optional to take it to original 189 numbers and throw some more for Rafale Ms. It would have created a strong deterrent against China. But Alas piecemeal 36 ordered after so much drama. Hope we don't regret for that decision if there is a war and we lose for not having enough Rafales... 🤐☹️😢
Only downside for that is, we could end up with all F3R version, ys it is good. But against new j20, dont know how effective it is.