DRDO QRSAM and SPYDER Air Defence Systems

Remember this ?
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Here is the system from the inside :
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It's similar to Russian air defences and not NASAMS.

If each truck has its own radar and 8 missiles, it's similar to the Tor-M1 system.

No it is similar to Israeli idome system , vem has tie up with the said Israeli company Rafael
 
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Beautiful product, we should work on this for the integrated battle group
I wonder how many types of SAMs will IBGs carry. There are already QRSAMs. What role will this play in IBGs? I thought this was more needed as fast mobile platforms for air defence of large areas of strategic importance like cities, power plants, manufacturing centres, air force bases , etc
 
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I wonder how many types of SAMs will IBGs carry. There are already QRSAMs. What role will this play in IBGs? I thought this was more needed as fast mobile platforms for air defence of large areas of strategic importance like cities, power plants, manufacturing centres, air force bases , etc
I guessed it for IBG... since the size of the missiles will be smaller (as per image) may carry QRSAM but work autonomously without any surveillance radar which helps your IBG to maintain a smaller and effective package
 
I have a few questions. The qrsams and mr-sams of the Indian Army are going to provide air defence cover for the mobile and rapidly moving armoured formations of the strike corps/IBGs. These systems are mounted on wheeled trucks and the various components such as launchers and different kinds of radars are mounted on different platforms meaning one truck carries the launcher, one truck one type of radar, another truck carries another type of radar. Won't this prove cumbersome? Like operationally and logistically speaking. What if one truck were to break down. Wouldn't the operational capability of the whole system be affected considering the fact that these systems are supposed to keep up with the fast paced thrust of the armoured offensive formations. Also these armoured thrusts are all about quick and decisive attacks with the element of surprise coupled with shock and awe tactics. That means these systems will have to be able to deploy almost instantaneously with less deployment time or even fire on the go to keep up with the frontline forces. Are these systems capable of doing that? Looking at them, I feel like due to the complicated organisation of these systems, with different components mounted on different platforms, their deployment time or rather, the time taken up for positioning the various launchers and radars in a particular area and setting up firing position won't be as fast as required. Also unlike the Akash SAM or the older KUB systems, they're mounted on trucks and not caterpillar tracked platforms. Will they be able to keep up with the rapidly moving tank and icv formations across difficult and challenging terrain?
 
I have a few questions. The qrsams and mr-sams of the Indian Army are going to provide air defence cover for the mobile and rapidly moving armoured formations of the strike corps/IBGs. These systems are mounted on wheeled trucks and the various components such as launchers and different kinds of radars are mounted on different platforms meaning one truck carries the launcher, one truck one type of radar, another truck carries another type of radar. Won't this prove cumbersome? Like operationally and logistically speaking. What if one truck were to break down. Wouldn't the operational capability of the whole system be affected considering the fact that these systems are supposed to keep up with the fast paced thrust of the armoured offensive formations. Also these armoured thrusts are all about quick and decisive attacks with the element of surprise coupled with shock and awe tactics. That means these systems will have to be able to deploy almost instantaneously with less deployment time or even fire on the go to keep up with the frontline forces. Are these systems capable of doing that? Looking at them, I feel like due to the complicated organisation of these systems, with different components mounted on different platforms, their deployment time or rather, the time taken up for positioning the various launchers and radars in a particular area and setting up firing position won't be as fast as required. Also unlike the Akash SAM or the older KUB systems, they're mounted on trucks and not caterpillar tracked platforms. Will they be able to keep up with the rapidly moving tank and icv formations across difficult and challenging terrain?
No, none of the air defense systems described here (QRSAM,Akash,MRSAM) are designed to be used with moving strike corps/IBGs.

Older generation SAM systems used to be stationary with elaborate sites designed to protect an area.

For example, This is the layout of a now-defunct SA-2 deployment location in North West Delhi.

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Those were easy to locate and target. Newer generation of air defense systems became mobile. It can protect any area as you prioritize. Today its protecting Delhi tomorrow it can protect Pathankot.

But, It cannot operate on the move. It should be deployed first to secure the air space. For that role we have , 9K33 Osa (SA-8 Gecko) 9K35 Strela-10 (SA-13 Gopher) , Schilka and Tunguska.

Akash can be relocated in time but cannot be used in offensive operations. Being mobile just makes it harder to destroy.

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Footnote: QR-SAM can be operated in short halts. Basically, its quick to react even if you are moving.

Relevant discussion: Indian Army Air Defence Corps : Updates & Discussions
 
No, none of the air defense systems described here (QRSAM,Akash,MRSAM) are designed to be used with moving strike corps/IBGs.

Older generation SAM systems used to be stationary with elaborate sites designed to protect an area.

For example, This is the layout of a now-defunct SA-2 deployment location in North West Delhi.

GE-Delhi-SA2-Site.jpg


Those were easy to locate and target. Newer generation of air defense systems became mobile. It can protect any area as you prioritize. Today its protecting Delhi tomorrow it can protect Pathankot.

But, It cannot operate on the move. It should be deployed first to secure the air space. For that role we have , 9K33 Osa (SA-8 Gecko) 9K35 Strela-10 (SA-13 Gopher) , Schilka and Tunguska.

Akash can be relocated in time but cannot be used in offensive operations. Being mobile just makes it harder to destroy.

e03983398b8aeaaa55d7c2b2adb870b2.jpg


11334053_907757152635674_3515814151662330324_o.jpg


Footnote: QR-SAM can be operated in short halts. Basically, its quick to react even if you are moving.

Relevant discussion: Indian Army Air Defence Corps : Updates & Discussions

I see. Very informative. Thank you so much.👍🏾
 

QRSAM Missile System Achieves Major Milestone

Posted On: 13 NOV 2020 6:34PM by PIB Delhi

Quick Reaction Surface to Air Missile (QRSAM) System has achieved a major milestone by a direct hit on to a Banshee Pilotless target aircraft at medium range & medium altitude.


The missile launch took place from ITR Chandipur on 13th Nov 2020 at 1550 hrs off the Odisha Coast. The missile is propelled by a single stage solid propellant rocket motor and uses all indigenous subsystems. The Missile is canisterised for transportation and launch using a mobile launcher capable of carrying 6 canisterised missiles.


All QRSAM weapon system elements like Battery Multifunction Radar, Battery Surveillance Radar, Battery Command Post Vehicle and Mobile Launcher were deployed in the flight test. The system is capable of detecting and tracking targets on the move and engaging target with short halts. The system is designed to give air defence coverage against strike columns of Indian Army.


The radar tracked the Banshee target from farthest range and missile was launched when target was within kill zone and achieved the direct hit with terminal active homing by RF Seeker guidance. Various DRDO labs DRDL, RCI, LRDE, R&DE(E), IRDE, ITR have participated in the test.


The weapon system elements have been realized through Defence PSUs BEL, BDL and private industry L&T. The missile system is fully indigenous with active RF Seekers, Electro Mechanical Actuation (EMA) systems sourced from various industries. The Radar is four walled Active Phased Array Radar. All range Tracking stations, Radar, EOTs & Telemetry Stations monitored the flight parameters.


Raksha Mantri Shri Rajnath Singh and Secretary DD R&D & Chairman DRDO Dr G Satheesh Reddy congratulated DRDO Scientists for the achievement.