Future Combat Vehicle Programs (FRCV and FICV)

Awesome find @Ankit Kumar.

So they are keeping the power output to 600hp for testing the engine.
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Remember the engine has been designed from ground up to be a 700hp engine. It makes sense to not do the initial trial run at max power rating.
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The last update we had on the engine was from May 2021. CVRDE was testing thei newly designed Variable Geometry Turbocharger, fuel injection systems & control algorithm's on a commercial off-the -shelf Mahindra's 120 hp mHawk engine.


Recently CVRDE has signed a deal with Ashok Leyland for being the development, testing & production partner for this engine.

Ashok Leyland partners with CVRDE to develop 600hp engine - ET Auto

Ashok Leyland themselves have delivered the very reliable Neptune series of diesel engines to the Army on many of the Army's trucks.

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This will be a new experience for AL too. Their engines so far have been 4 or 6 cylinders inline configuration with a power band of 300-500hp. They have no experience with 90deg V8 engines that too a 700hp one.
Which in turn begs the question what exactly was the division in work share between AL & CVRDE ? Or is this the usual case of a DPSU riding piggy back on the success of a Pvt Sector unit's success ?
 
Which in turn begs the question what exactly was the division in work share between AL & CVRDE ? Or is this the usual case of a DPSU riding piggy back on the success of a Pvt Sector unit's success ?
The IP of the engine is completely owned by the CVRDE. It was their design from the get go. AL is the production agency they will do the mass manufacturing of the engine. The reason they are getting involved now is to familiarize themselves with the engine. AL will have to deal with any technical issues that may come up during production. It makes sense for AL to be involved with testing the engine & it makes sense for CVRDE to have additional inputs from pvt. firms. Both the V8 & the upcoming V12 engine could gain from it.

The 1500hp V12 in the making is also entirely CVRDE's IP. The production agency is probably going to be BHEL. That's just a guess though.
 
Oh & this isn't our 1st attempt at making a IFV engine. It you remember the OFB-Medak made an upgraded variant of the BMP-II called the Abhay IFV. The Abhay project was in many ways the precursor to the FICV program. The Abhay IFV used a 550hp Greaves Cotton TD2-V8 diesel engine. The engine was developed by Greaves Cotton which is an Indian engineering company, so the IP is in our hands.


The CVRDE engine is also a V8 but with 700hp as design capacity. For comparison's sake the BMP-II's engine is a 300hp V6 engine. The new engine looks impressive on paper. If it proves reliable enough then we got ourselves a winner here. Most IFV/ICVs around the world have a 300-500hp engine. The German Boxer & the Swedish Combat Vehicle 90 are the only exceptions that come to mind. Then the Boxer is wheeled not tracked. I think the Swedish IFV is a pretty good benchmark.
 
The IP of the engine is completely owned by the CVRDE. It was their design from the get go. AL is the production agency they will do the mass manufacturing of the engine. The reason they are getting involved now is to familiarize themselves with the engine. AL will have to deal with any technical issues that may come up during production. It makes sense for AL to be involved with testing the engine & it makes sense for CVRDE to have additional inputs from pvt. firms. Both the V8 & the upcoming V12 engine could gain from it.

The 1500hp V12 in the making is also entirely CVRDE's IP. The production agency is probably going to be BHEL. That's just a guess though.
AL or Mahindra doesn’t have any experience in designing a V engine anyway. All their domestic engines are Inline and both have capability to upscale those Inline 4 to 5,6 and maybe more quite easily due to Inline engine design being relatively easier to upscale. But then those will need larger space which is scarce in something like MBTs and IFVs.
 
We should go for the k2 black panther. Armata is a paper tiger. K2 is right now the best tank in the market and fits indian army requirement extremely well. It's designed for mountain warfare. The Koreans don't scam like the Russians and are extremely open for tot.
Work on Arjun MK2, order 250 of those tanks.

After that work on a new design with unmanned turret. Even better would be a two man crew tank. No need to look outside.
 
Work on Arjun MK2, order 250 of those tanks.

After that work on a new design with unmanned turret. Even better would be a two man crew tank. No need to look outside.
Arjun mk 2 is of a different weight class. The k-2 is 50 ton and we can use the k-2 tech to upgrade our arjun's and t-90's. The k-2 can single-handedly replace both our t-72's and t-90's and follows similar design philosophy to the t-90's. Even Leclerc is good and the modular armour concept can be used.
The arjun mk 2 should remain a 60+ ton MBT for and the rifled gun should be replaced with the l/55. No point in staying with the outdated 125 mm gun.
We need around 500 Arjun's overall the mk1 should be upgrade to mk1a standard.
The k-2 can replace the t-90's. The t-90's can replace the t-72's (as our light tanks) the rest of the t-72's can be upgrade to t-90 standard. The Arjun's should be upgrade to mk 1a standard. We will have 250 mk 1a and the rest 250 should be mk 2 with the 120 mm l/55 from the k2 and heavier armour package.
The arjun can be used very well in urban warfare scenarios and in Pakistani regions. It's just the lies by the russki lobby's.
We just need to invest massively in next gen atgm tech, apfsds and munition variiety for tanks.
 
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Arjun mk 2 is of a different weight class. The k-2 is 50 ton and we can use the k-2 tech to upgrade our arjun's and t-90's. The k-2 can single-handedly replace both our t-72's and t-90's and follows similar design philosophy to the t-90's. Even Leclerc is good and the modular armour concept can be used.
The arjun mk 2 should remain a 60+ ton MBT for and the rifled gun should be replaced with the l/55. No point in staying with the outdated 125 mm gun.
We need around 500 Arjun's overall the mk1 should be upgrade to mk1a standard.
The k-2 can replace the t-90's. The t-90's can replace the t-72's (as our light tanks) the rest of the t-72's can be upgrade to t-90 standard. The Arjun's should be upgrade to mk 1a standard. We will have 250 mk 1a and the rest 250 should be mk 2 with the 120 mm l/55 from the k2 and heavier armour package.
The arjun can be used very well in urban warfare scenarios and in Pakistani regions. It's just the lies by the russki lobby's.
We just need to invest massively in next gen atgm tech, apfsds and munition variiety for tanks.
Unmanned Turret with a larger caliber gun. Maybe a 130mm canon. That is what we should look for T90/72 replacement.
 
Arjun mk 2 is of a different weight class. The k-2 is 50 ton and we can use the k-2 tech to upgrade our arjun's and t-90's. The k-2 can single-handedly replace both our t-72's and t-90's and follows similar design philosophy to the t-90's. Even Leclerc is good and the modular armour concept can be used.
The arjun mk 2 should remain a 60+ ton MBT for and the rifled gun should be replaced with the l/55. No point in staying with the outdated 125 mm gun.
We need around 500 Arjun's overall the mk1 should be upgrade to mk1a standard.
The k-2 can replace the t-90's. The t-90's can replace the t-72's (as our light tanks) the rest of the t-72's can be upgrade to t-90 standard. The Arjun's should be upgrade to mk 1a standard. We will have 250 mk 1a and the rest 250 should be mk 2 with the 120 mm l/55 from the k2 and heavier armour package.
The arjun can be used very well in urban warfare scenarios and in Pakistani regions. It's just the lies by the russki lobby's.
We just need to invest massively in next gen atgm tech, apfsds and munition variiety for tanks.

I hope to see a new design, like they are doing with FICV.