High speed / Semi-High speed rail projects of Indian Railways

No expert in Mumbai Ahmedabad Traffic. But is it worth it to have 35 trips per day? Do people travel that much?
If you take flights, shatabdi, double decker, super fast and regular trains plying from Mumbai central, Dadar(Western) and Bandra terminus to Ahemedabad, yes figure is close. However do mind capacity is build to keep future in mind. All these services will be gradually built up. Majority of the traffic pertains to Mumbai to Surat, vadodara and Ahemedabad but there are many mid level stations in between which will get major upgrade.
 
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No expert in Mumbai Ahmedabad Traffic. But is it worth it to have 35 trips per day? Do people travel that much?

I am pretty much sure they have looked at the traffic stats before deciding on the number of trips. Also this is not about one person travelling back and fro 35 times everyday. but rather the overall traffic.
 
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If you take flights, shatabdi, double decker, super fast and regular trains plying from Mumbai central, Dadar(Western) and Bandra terminus to Ahemedabad, yes figure is close. However do mind capacity is build to keep future in mind. All these services will be gradually built up. Majority of the traffic pertains to Mumbai to Surat, vadodara and Ahemedabad but there are many mid level stations in between which will get major upgrade.
Look at the rapid growth in air travel over last 6 years. Almost all airports are running beyond their designed capacity. If the fair is around 3k, it will be a huge hit. My co workers from China prefer HSR over air travel because it’s much more convenient and saves time.
 
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Ahmedabad-Mumbai bullet train project may hit roadblock

1 min read . Updated: 21 Nov 2019, 08:24 PM IST by Anand Singh, Syed Moziz Imam, IANS
  • If the Cong-NCP-Sena combine comes to power in Maharashtra, it may inform the Centre that the state govt will not bear the cost of the project
  • The 508-km Ahmedabad-Mumbai high speed train project is slated to be completed by 2023
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PM Modi and his Japanese counterpart Shinzo Abe had jointly laid the foundation stone for the Bullet train project in Ahmedabad in Sept 2017

NEW DELHI : Prime Minister Narendra Modi's highly ambitious Bullet train project of the National High Speed Railway Corp (NHSRCL) between Mumbai-Ahmedabad may hit a roadblock if the Congress-NCP-Shiv Sena combine comes to power in Maharashtra.

Modi and Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe had jointly laid the foundation stone for the Bullet train project in Ahmedabad in September 2017.

A senior NCP source told IANS that "during the first meeting of the three parties in Mumbai last week, discussions were held on the Ahmedabad-Mumbai Bullet train project in which we informed the leaders that according to Central government, the Maharashtra government would be bearing ₹5,000 crore of the total ₹1.08 trillion cost."

"And then we came to a conclusion that once we form the government in the state then we will inform the Central government that the state government will not bear the cost of the high speed train project and will spend the same money on some other pro-people schemes," he said.

The party source said that the state government will spend the amount for farmers' welfare.

The 508-km Ahmedabad-Mumbai high speed train project is slated to be completed by 2023.

The NHSRCL, which is responsible for undertaking the construction, has, till date, acquired over 48% of the land for the project and also floated tenders for several works.

Ahmedabad-Mumbai bullet train project may hit roadblock
 
6 more routes identified for high-speed corridors, DPR in a year: Railways

By Amit Mudgill
PTI | Last Updated: Jan 29, 2020, 04.27 PM IST

In a briefing ahead of the Union Budget, Yadav said the six corridors include the Delhi-Noida-Agra-Lucknow-Varanasi and the Delhi-Jaipur-Udaipur-Ahmedabad sections. Other corridors are: Mumbai-Nashik-Nagpur, Mumbai-Pune-Hyderabad, Chennai-Bangalore-Mysore, Delhi-Chandigarh-Ludhiana-Jalandhar-Amritsar.


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Other corridors are: Mumbai-Nashik-Nagpur, Mumbai-Pune-Hyderabad, Chennai-Bangalore-Mysore, Delhi-Chandigarh-Ludhiana-Jalandhar-Amritsar.

The Railways has identified six sections for high speed and semi-high speed corridors, Railway Board Chairman VK Yadav said on Wednesday, adding a detailed project report on these sections will be ready within a year.

The new corridors will join the under-construction Mumbai-Ahmedabad high-speed route.

Trains can run at a maximum speed of over 300 km/hr on a high-speed corridor, while on a semi-high speed corridor, the maximum speed can go beyond 160km/hr.

In a briefing ahead of the Union Budget, Yadav said the six corridors include the Delhi-Noida-Agra-Lucknow-Varanasi (865 km)and the Delhi-Jaipur-Udaipur-Ahmedabad (886km) sections.

Other corridors are: Mumbai-Nashik-Nagpur (753 km), Mumbai-Pune-Hyderabad (711 km), Chennai-Bangalore-Mysore (435 km) and the Delhi-Chandigarh-Ludhiana-Jalandhar-Amritsar (459 km) sections.

"We have identified these six corridors and their detailed project reports (DPR) will be prepared within the year. The DPR will study the feasibility of these routes which includes land availability, alignment and a study of the traffic potential there. After these things are studied, we will decide if they will be high-speed or semi-high speed corridors," said Yadav.

India's bullet train project between Mumbai and Ahmedabad, the country's first high-speed corridor, will be completed by December 2023, he said.

Yadav also said that 90 per cent land acquisition work for the bullet train project will be completed in the next six months.

"We need 1,380 hectare of land for the project. 1,005 hectare was private land of which we have acquired 471 hectares. 149 hectare was state government land of which we have got 119 hectare. The remaining is 128 hectare which is railway land which has been given to the high-speed corporation," he said.

Yadav also said that five bids for civil engineering work which includes track work and tunnels will be opened in March and finalised within six to eight months thence.

6 more routes identified for high-speed corridors, DPR in a year: Railways
 
6 more routes identified for high-speed corridors, DPR in a year: Railways

By Amit Mudgill
PTI | Last Updated: Jan 29, 2020, 04.27 PM IST

In a briefing ahead of the Union Budget, Yadav said the six corridors include the Delhi-Noida-Agra-Lucknow-Varanasi and the Delhi-Jaipur-Udaipur-Ahmedabad sections. Other corridors are: Mumbai-Nashik-Nagpur, Mumbai-Pune-Hyderabad, Chennai-Bangalore-Mysore, Delhi-Chandigarh-Ludhiana-Jalandhar-Amritsar.

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Other corridors are: Mumbai-Nashik-Nagpur, Mumbai-Pune-Hyderabad, Chennai-Bangalore-Mysore, Delhi-Chandigarh-Ludhiana-Jalandhar-Amritsar.

The Railways has identified six sections for high speed and semi-high speed corridors, Railway Board Chairman VK Yadav said on Wednesday, adding a detailed project report on these sections will be ready within a year.

The new corridors will join the under-construction Mumbai-Ahmedabad high-speed route.

Trains can run at a maximum speed of over 300 km/hr on a high-speed corridor, while on a semi-high speed corridor, the maximum speed can go beyond 160km/hr.

In a briefing ahead of the Union Budget, Yadav said the six corridors include the Delhi-Noida-Agra-Lucknow-Varanasi (865 km)and the Delhi-Jaipur-Udaipur-Ahmedabad (886km) sections.

Other corridors are: Mumbai-Nashik-Nagpur (753 km), Mumbai-Pune-Hyderabad (711 km), Chennai-Bangalore-Mysore (435 km) and the Delhi-Chandigarh-Ludhiana-Jalandhar-Amritsar (459 km) sections.

"We have identified these six corridors and their detailed project reports (DPR) will be prepared within the year. The DPR will study the feasibility of these routes which includes land availability, alignment and a study of the traffic potential there. After these things are studied, we will decide if they will be high-speed or semi-high speed corridors," said Yadav.

India's bullet train project between Mumbai and Ahmedabad, the country's first high-speed corridor, will be completed by December 2023, he said.

Yadav also said that 90 per cent land acquisition work for the bullet train project will be completed in the next six months.

"We need 1,380 hectare of land for the project. 1,005 hectare was private land of which we have acquired 471 hectares. 149 hectare was state government land of which we have got 119 hectare. The remaining is 128 hectare which is railway land which has been given to the high-speed corporation," he said.

Yadav also said that five bids for civil engineering work which includes track work and tunnels will be opened in March and finalised within six to eight months thence.

6 more routes identified for high-speed corridors, DPR in a year: Railways
Chennai-Bangalore-Mysore and Delhi-Amritsar should be next. Makes much more economical sense than Delhi-Varanasi
 
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Chennai-Bangalore-Mysore and Delhi-Amritsar should be next. Makes much more economical sense than Delhi-Varanasi
Chennai - Bangalore - Hyderabad is a better route. All buses and trains between Bangalore and Hyderabad are always full. The route will break even within no time.
 
Chennai-Bangalore-Mysore and Delhi-Amritsar should be next. Makes much more economical sense than Delhi-Varanasi
I have had the exchanges with few people in past in regards to Delhi-Varanasi route, Chennai-Banglore, Chennai Hyderabad routes and above comment came almost all the time. To the best of my understanding, Chennai-Bangalore-Mysore route will not be passing through plains only which is cheapest to build, and faster too. Delhi-Amritsar is very well located in plains, thus building the infrastructure might be cheaper there like Delhi Varanasi route. Varanasi & Mugal Sarai station (New name Deen Dayal Upadhyay Station) is being considered not because of political considerations but simply because it is directly on the Grand trunk route which is one of the busiest routes in India, if not busiest already. From BSB and MGS trains pass every 3 minute both passengers and freight, that's the intensity of network. It is not only major junction on Grand trunk route Delhi to Kolkata but also a major industrial & population of Purvanchal. Thus passenger occupancy is higher, building cost will be low. So saying it is less economical than other routes is not justifiable in my opinion.

But, that doesn't mean Chennai Banglore route will be less economical than Delhi Varanasi route, it will be incorrect as well. Feasibility study is done already for all concerned routes which includes, technical, passenger occupancy, building cost etc. Every route is important for all around country growth, and it is not practically possible to build all routes together at same time, so some route might come online before others however all approved routes will be built, that is for sure. Thank you.
 
Ahmedabad to Mumbai is economical only if extended to Pune or else its useless for Maharashtra
That is, my friend, too much provincial thinking. Ahmadabad Mumbai section is part of Delhi Mumbai route, while Mumbai Pune section falls in Mumbai Chennai route of Diamond Quadrilateral project. However, due to political consideration/compulsions, it is attached in the current building project. That doesn't mean, that demand is not there for Pune Mumbai HSR. Mumbai Ahmadabad section is not dependent on Pune for traffic, it is dependent on connection to Delhi. Mumbai Pune connectivity will be utilized fully when connected to Bangalore and Chennai. Same way Mumbai Nagpur extending to Kolkata and Nagpur connection to Delhi via Bhopal and Chennai via Hyderabad. Thank you.
Chennai - Bangalore - Hyderabad is a better route. All buses and trains between Bangalore and Hyderabad are always full. The route will break even within no time.
Chennai Bangalore section will be part of Mumbai Chennai and Hyderabad will fall in Delhi Chennai route via Nagpur.
 
That is, my friend, too much provincial thinking. Ahmadabad Mumbai section is part of Delhi Mumbai route, while Mumbai Pune section falls in Mumbai Chennai route of Diamond Quadrilateral project. However, due to political consideration/compulsions, it is attached in the current building project. That doesn't mean, that demand is not there for Pune Mumbai HSR. Mumbai Ahmadabad section is not dependent on Pune for traffic, it is dependent on connection to Delhi. Mumbai Pune connectivity will be utilized fully when connected to Bangalore and Chennai. Same way Mumbai Nagpur extending to Kolkata and Nagpur connection to Delhi via Bhopal and Chennai via Hyderabad. Thank you.

Chennai Bangalore section will be part of Mumbai Chennai and Hyderabad will fall in Delhi Chennai route via Nagpur.
But the problem is Maharashtra government is equally funding the project as Gujrat which is very unfair. Gujrat gets all important cities connected while Maharashtra gets only Mumbai. Pune - Mumbai has higher demand than Pune - Ahmedabad.
And this happened only because there was BJP government in Maharashtra. This is was also a critique by the opposition parties here and i fully agree.
Why should Maharashtra fund equally as Gujarat government when benefits aren't equal.
I dont have problem with the project but the funding