>So you will sell the country to a corporate shill instead of believing the forces... Good to know.
WTF does "believing the forces" even mean? Are indian forces monoliths in terms of thinking? Are they above gods? All these deals are political. So many of IAF top leadership come out to be tainted. ACM SP Tyagi comes to mind.
I just told you that actual pilots of IAF rate F-35 higher than Rafales. And is Rafale not made by a corporate company? A company which has made no substantial investment in India despite more than 20billion worth of weapons over decades?
>So your idea of challenging China is to jump from one cock to another. Good to know.
Lol no. My idea is to imitate what China did, which is why they are a superpower now. Also, its funny that you admit that in your opinion we are jumping on french cock right now. I mean if we are to jump on any cock then might as well jump on an actual superpowers' cock rather than a washed out middling european power, which can't even fight its own wars without US support and would ditch india for its trade relations with China any given day.
>So the navy is right for choosing a Desi-Rafale that only exists on paper, but IAF is wrong for choosing actual Rafale that is already flying and even inducted. Good to know.
And the navy is also right for planning for a stealth jet sometime in the far future. But the IAF already running a stealth program is not good enough. Good to know.
Now you are just doing wierd mental gymanstics and putting words in my mouth. IAF was forced to buy Rafale because india-US relations were not good and F-35 was not on offer. Now, there is a good chance that IAF can buy F-35 but IAF is already saddled with Rafales. Now that I come to think of it, MMRCA program is as old as F-35 program itself
. Navy has no such problem, they can easily go for F-35.
1.navy is right for choosing a Desi-Rafale that only exists on paper: navy's program includes building an indian jet, not importing it.
2.IAF is wrong for choosing actual Rafale that is already flying: yes because if you are gonna import a gold plated aircraft then why not import the best one out there. India-US relations have changed significantly since 2000s. The fact that F-35 is not only better but cheaper in per unit cost and IAF is still buying rafales just looks like atrocious waste of Indian taxpayer money.
3.navy is also right for planning for a stealth jet sometime in the far future: Thats what they should be doing. Good planning. Whatever they are doing, atleast they are buiding domestic aircrafts.
4.But the IAF already running a stealth program is not good enough: WTF are you talking about? When did I say anything about AMCA? Its good that they are building a domestic stealth fighter.
Let me make it clear for you:
Domestic fighter : stealth or non stealth - good - just fckin build it no matter what.
Imported fighter : Only stealth planes should be imported, F-35 being the best of the lot. Will give experience to our pilots/aircraft engineers in making better design choices in domestic fighters.
>Rafale's roadmap caters to future ................................................. F-35 will get its complete B4 capabilities.
Yeah bro I have been hearing these rafale stories from 2015 when I was in college. Rafale will do this .....do that.....defeat F-35...defeat Tie Fighters from star wars.......blah blah blah. I still notice that you use the word "will do" i.e. future tense and it has been the case since a decade ago. If I had been compiling all those stories and seriously reading them I would have made a Rafale in my garage by now
but alas. The actual people who spend the money in real world have shown that they bet on F-35 over Rafales to defend their countries. The pilots of IAF rate F-35 higher than Rafales. Pilots who have to risk their lives (in contrast to people who argue online) put F-35 over Rafales. I am done with these debates over which is the better plane. If you think Rafale is better, good for you. I can bet 5 years from now India would be negotiating F-35s and all rafale fanboys would slit their wrists in agony.
>French efficiency
yes thats what french are famous for. lol.
WTF does "believing the forces" even mean? Are indian forces monoliths in terms of thinking? Are they above gods? All these deals are political. So many of IAF top leadership come out to be tainted. ACM SP Tyagi comes to mind.
I just told you that actual pilots of IAF rate F-35 higher than Rafales. And is Rafale not made by a corporate company? A company which has made no substantial investment in India despite more than 20billion worth of weapons over decades?
>So your idea of challenging China is to jump from one cock to another. Good to know.
Lol no. My idea is to imitate what China did, which is why they are a superpower now. Also, its funny that you admit that in your opinion we are jumping on french cock right now. I mean if we are to jump on any cock then might as well jump on an actual superpowers' cock rather than a washed out middling european power, which can't even fight its own wars without US support and would ditch india for its trade relations with China any given day.
>So the navy is right for choosing a Desi-Rafale that only exists on paper, but IAF is wrong for choosing actual Rafale that is already flying and even inducted. Good to know.
And the navy is also right for planning for a stealth jet sometime in the far future. But the IAF already running a stealth program is not good enough. Good to know.
Now you are just doing wierd mental gymanstics and putting words in my mouth. IAF was forced to buy Rafale because india-US relations were not good and F-35 was not on offer. Now, there is a good chance that IAF can buy F-35 but IAF is already saddled with Rafales. Now that I come to think of it, MMRCA program is as old as F-35 program itself

1.navy is right for choosing a Desi-Rafale that only exists on paper: navy's program includes building an indian jet, not importing it.
2.IAF is wrong for choosing actual Rafale that is already flying: yes because if you are gonna import a gold plated aircraft then why not import the best one out there. India-US relations have changed significantly since 2000s. The fact that F-35 is not only better but cheaper in per unit cost and IAF is still buying rafales just looks like atrocious waste of Indian taxpayer money.
3.navy is also right for planning for a stealth jet sometime in the far future: Thats what they should be doing. Good planning. Whatever they are doing, atleast they are buiding domestic aircrafts.
4.But the IAF already running a stealth program is not good enough: WTF are you talking about? When did I say anything about AMCA? Its good that they are building a domestic stealth fighter.
Let me make it clear for you:
Domestic fighter : stealth or non stealth - good - just fckin build it no matter what.
Imported fighter : Only stealth planes should be imported, F-35 being the best of the lot. Will give experience to our pilots/aircraft engineers in making better design choices in domestic fighters.
>Rafale's roadmap caters to future ................................................. F-35 will get its complete B4 capabilities.
Yeah bro I have been hearing these rafale stories from 2015 when I was in college. Rafale will do this .....do that.....defeat F-35...defeat Tie Fighters from star wars.......blah blah blah. I still notice that you use the word "will do" i.e. future tense and it has been the case since a decade ago. If I had been compiling all those stories and seriously reading them I would have made a Rafale in my garage by now

>French efficiency
