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If you think we returned Abhinandan out of fear of India, you are wrong. We are not scared of India or we had not launched attack on 27th in the first place...
No one has ever questioned that, Pakistan has relentlessly attacked India since the 80's. wheteher it is 26/11 or Pulwama, Pakistan has remained steadfast on it's conviction to attack India.
 
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There was no direct communication between the nations.....

Yes there was , you have missed this information

Modi ordered Navy to move ahead
And CCS cleared every necessary action
To be taken in case of all out war

Then Pakistanis panicked and started calling
Out all countries including India

Doval did not dial , the call came from Pakistan
 
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The area shown in Red is the area India has captured from Pakistan in Akhnoor. A few days back we had seen inverted flags flying on some posts of Pakistan. Those posts were the posts captured by India. Pak Army just deserted them under the arty assualt by India.

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You do know there is only one defence force who will not even tell their own government about their losses?
Number of martyred troops can’t be disclosed, Senate told - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

There is a reason why Osama was found in Pakistan.
There is a reason why Kargil causalities of Pakistan were not accepted.
There is a reason why LoC causalities of Pakistan Army are not accepted.
There is a reason why it was been reported in 1971 that Pakistan Army was winning but then all of a sudden we came to know what happened.


Its Pakistan Army, the incorrigible liars.

Lets not forget they hid their causalities even in accidents

Case and Point - PNS Moawin

53 died in March fire on PN ship, Senate told - Dated 18.06.2005
53 died in March fire on PN ship, Senate told - Newspaper - DAWN.COM


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At least six people were killed and around 95 injured when fire broke out yesterday aboard an oil tanker here and quickly spread to the surrounding area, naval officials said.
6 Die, 95 Hurt in Pakistan Naval Facility Fire - Dated 11.03.2005
 
The area shown in Red is the area India has captured from Pakistan in Akhnoor. A few days back we had seen inverted flags flying on some posts of Pakistan. Those posts were the posts captured by India. Pak Army just deserted them under the arty assualt by India.

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Sir the Entire 198 km Jammu Border is full of Kinks and Bends

We can kill Hundreds of Pakistani soldiers
And make life Hell for them
 
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On 27 th Doval Himself warned ISI chief
That If Abhinandan was hurt , we will hit very badly
Yes there was , you have missed this information

Modi ordered Navy to move ahead
And CCS cleared every necessary action
To be taken in case of all out war

Then Pakistanis panicked and started calling
Out all countries including India

Doval did not dial , the call came from Pakistan

Why will Doval call or receive a call from ISI Chief? Under what protocol ISI Chief can call NSA of India? A little bit of common sense will avoid this stupid consumption of conspiracy theories by media. When Imran admitted that he tried calling Modi all night and Modi was not available why would Doval talk to ISI Chief of lower Rank?
 
Why will Doval call or receive a call from ISI Chief? Under what protocol ISI Chief can call NSA of India? A little bit of common sense will avoid this stupid consumption of conspiracy theories by media. When Imran admitted that he tried calling Modi all night and Modi was not available why would Doval talk to ISI Chief of lower Rank?

These days there are many articles getting
Published all over news websites

I just Remember the Relevant details
And information

I dont save them for quoting it at a later date

And if you think logically

When Pakistani were working on the Phone lines from Washington to Saudi to UAE

It is common sense to undersand that Bolton ,US NSA must have told Pakistan
To directly communicate with India to avoid escalation

The main Point person here is Doval

Doval talked to Bolton
Bolton talked to Pakistan

This is already well known

So obviously Pakistan must have called Doval for preventing escalation which they
Obviously Did not want
 
Why will Doval call or receive a call from ISI Chief? Under what protocol ISI Chief can call NSA of India? A little bit of common sense will avoid this stupid consumption of conspiracy theories by media. When Imran admitted that he tried calling Modi all night and Modi was not available why would Doval talk to ISI Chief of lower Rank?

Don't recollect where I read, but it was RAW chief giving stern warning to the ISI chief
 
Why will Doval call or receive a call from ISI Chief? Under what protocol ISI Chief can call NSA of India? A little bit of common sense will avoid this stupid consumption of conspiracy theories by media. When Imran admitted that he tried calling Modi all night and Modi was not available why would Doval talk to ISI Chief of lower Rank?

Intervention by other countries had stopped India, Pakistan from firing missiles

While the Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) chief Anil Dhasmana talked to his ISI counterpart Lt Gen Asim Munir, National Security Adviser Ajit Doval told his US counterpart John Bolton and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo over a hotline on the same day that India was prepared for the worst if any bodily harm came to Varthaman.
 
Don't recollect where I read, but it was RAW chief giving stern warning to the ISI chief
I recollect very clearly, 1st article was Doval calling I think from Reuters when it was ridiculed some smartass changed it to RAW Chief calling, dont get fooled by sensationalism peddled in name of news, our forum is much better and blessed with informed posters than those fiction writers.
 
Short answer - True. Size may be slightly lesser. Odd square kilometer here and there along quite a bit of stretch. Recall the Chinese Border Guards and ITBP stoning stand off? That was in area technically on our side of LAC, but Chinese managed to crawl about 5 odd kilometers westward in that area with Governments of India simply deciding to 'talk things out'.

Only in Dokalam, for the first time, we showed our intent in a long time, to not allow even an inch of change to occur.

They went back or occupied that 5 kms ?
 
They went back or occupied that 5 kms ?


There is a permanent structure built by them. Let our fellow country(wo)men delude themselves otherwise. Facts remain on ground ..... only in the last Dokalam Standoff did we take a militaristic aggressive stance. Even in Chumar standoff 2013, army was raring to hit them hard, typically our 'Civil elected leadership' stood down. The 'Lions for Lambs' holds ..... sorry to say, our nation is full of cowards ..... and they are being elected by a bunch of cowards.
 
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