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How soon before PAF starts using WWR spares for the 16s? They are not exactly flush with money and those spares dont come cheap.

They should have toned down the scale of operations by now. Or is Mr. Erdogan feeling extra generous?
During Kargil 2 months CAPs took a huge toll on them..... Btw that was 20 years back....Barring JF17 things are not changed much
 
So DG ISPR took a complete month to realize that no matter what they will never be able to justify AMRAAM shown by India. So they came up with this new story.
 
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So DG ISPR took a complete month to realize that no matter what they will never be able to justify AMRAAM shown by India. So they came up with this new story.
Please understand that DGISPR is our best friend today. His lies and spin doctoring is actually helping our cause. As I stated, they can neither shout out, nor withstand the pain. But have no option other than endure it. I dont want to spell as to what it is called.
 
But have no option other than endure it. I dont want to spell as to what it is called.
For all you know, they maybe enjoying it too. What else explains their repeatedly having a go at us after 4 defeats / stalemates. Think of grass. For eg: let's consider one of their own here. @safriz is a good sport but also a masochist.
 
complete PAF was airborne including F16s, the fact remains that Pakistan Airforce shot down two Indian jets in self defence.

two points there:
1) complete PAF was airborne including F16s - against Mig 21s and barely a few Su 30s?
2) the fact remains that Pakistan Airforce shot down two Indian jets in self defence. -> so PAF flies into Indian airspace, and if IAF shoots it, PAF reacts. IAF is aggressor and PAF is acting in self defense - logic just committed suicide.
 
For all you know, they maybe enjoying it too. What else explains their repeatedly having a go at us after 4 defeats / stalemates. Think of grass. For eg: let's consider one of their own here. @safriz is a good sport but also a masochist.
Do you recall my joke about the Hunter and the lion? Tainoo shikaar da shouk hai kee marwaan da.
 
Might be a dumb question but throwing it out for the more informed lot.

If Pakistan lets India drive this conflict the way India is planning there is pretty much only one outcome. That still might be passable in 99, but today with every person having mobile phones and internet, information flow cannot be controlled. As we speak PoK population is getting restive without internet. Pakistan will lose and will not be able to hide the news this time.

The question is why are they sitting silently as India goes about its thing. Pakistan is getting into a corner. The only way out for them is coming swinging with everything they have. Instead they are exercising a complete blackout and content with the IA having the full initiative.

Even if we believe the most outlandish twitter handles, the best they have done is to try and take back posts that Indians made them vacate and run away. Does anyone else feels it does not add up?
 
If 2 jets went across and both got shot down.... then where is the second jet.

Poor Pakistanis couldn't find second pilot now have to find second jet as well.
 
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Might be a dumb question but throwing it out for the more informed lot.

If Pakistan lets India drive this conflict the way India is planning there is pretty much only one outcome. That still might be passable in 99, but today with every person having mobile phones and internet, information flow cannot be controlled. As we speak PoK population is getting restive without internet. Pakistan will lose and will not be able to hide the news this time.

The question is why are they sitting silently as India goes about its thing. Pakistan is getting into a corner. The only way out for them is coming swinging with everything they have. Instead they are exercising a complete blackout and content with the IA having the full initiative.

Even if we believe the most outlandish twitter handles, the best they have done is to try and take back posts that Indians made them vacate and run away. Does anyone else feels it does not add up?
Good post. There are only 2 outcomes from here on. Either Pakistan escalates the only way they know, by initiating more Pulwamas in the months to come followed by posturing of the kind you see on the LoC today or reach some sort of a understanding with India & the international community by cracking down on the jihadi tanzeems - which is easier said than done.

Knowing Pakistan & it's penchant for miscalculation, it's most likely the former as if they seriously crack down on these tanzeems, they face a blowback and the days where in they could pretend to crack down on these tanzeems like they did post 26/11 or even post the parliamentary attacks when India mobilized, is past.

Truth is they don't have too many options. They have to select one which does them the least harm. But, to re iterate what I said earlier, this is Pakistan we're talking about .
 
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