Three front? Iran has already done lots of damage and allies will punish them soon.i don't think that three front is a possibility against pakistan.
India - Pakistan Standoff 2019
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Leave aside Iran, Afghanistan. Good luck defending three frontal attack from our forces itself!! (Indian Navy from the south, Indian Army from the west into pak punjab and the north.) It is hilarious if you think India would stay put if you guys hit us in kashmir from two fronts with China.
Collaboration alone is more than enough. Making border hot will force PA to divert manpower and resources to its western front. Imagine the forces running from one front to another, and the state of morale with active duty of several months without leave away from family. Assets such as Jehadis stands no chance and would be pulverized against trained Army, and their defending role as street fighting is limited, since we don't intend to capture your cities.
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I feel that China will never allow any attack on pakistan.there are many reasons.indians talk about secret deals and no trust between China and pakistan but if you think from Chinese point of view,things will become clear.
China don't want India to expand.they and their people can never forget memories of war against India.there are other reasons as well.one of the critical question is what will happen to china if India manages to defeat pakistan? China will be doomed.from South China Sea,allies will tackle them.from indian and assumed captured pakistani territory,indians will face them.russia will never intervene in China and India war.
There are other problems like boundary problem between China and India.china don't want string of pearls near it's border and they understand importance of pakistan.trade is key for China but they can fight any war.they have money just like India.
If you look at indian Kashmir map,you can see indian Kashmir is surrounded by Pakistani and Chinese territory from at least two different sides which means two different attacks on different sectors will put indian military in panic mood and there will be no time to attack pakistani Punjab because according to Chinese military doctrine,war will be swift so I don't think that India will attack us on Punjab front.india don't have any chance in case of two front war and similar is true for pakistan as well but we know,two front on our side is almost impossible.
There are many techniques.one of the possible technique is to ask help from friends like China and other is proxy.who will send army men to fight indian army directly? A slight damage on indian army is required before Pak army attack.you forget talibans.india have faced mujahadeen in the past and not enough talibans.this time,it will be against talibans and talibans are terrible to handle.talibans already have experience of fighting.i think we can defend and international community will intervene before any capture of territory.i am sure about Taliban role and Chinese role.both don't want India anyway near pakistani territory.
Rajnath Singh has declared that as of now we are abiding by the NFU. What happens in the future will be dictated by circumstances! Add the IA maneouvres in Ladakh & Arunanchal Pradesh. Also add the postponement of Chinese FM's visit to it. The recent statement by China that talks between Xi & Modi won't be about Kashmir. Also add Trump's joint public address in Houston with Modi in Howdy Modi. Add senior Indian ministers stating that PoK is unfinished biz of partition.
If I were you, I'd focus on my daily life failing which I'd pick up the rifle to become a ghazi. 200 saal chuhe ki zindagi se ek din sher ki zindagi hi sahi.
In Pakistanese, bismillah wa rahman wa rahim, as salaam aleikum , why maut by no naan when shahadat on LoC is halaal. Insha Allah, boys played well, Imran bhai.
I know you guys talk about our Kashmir and how to capture it but in reality, that's almost impossible.first of all,war will stop because of pressure from international community and capture of small territory is possible but what would India achieve from it? War will be disastrous.soldiers will die on both sides.it looks like we are heading for a limited war but I don't think that primary objectives will be achieved.i mean in this modern age,who thinks about war but India and pakistan share history of hostility so a war is possible but without any result,probably ceasefire in the first week or something else will stop the war.
Problem here is that you are thinking about pakistan only.even we know that there is a danger.we never said that India will not attack.problem is for China.think about them.do you think they will allow themselves in a situation where India captures pakistani territory and they have to face two big forces near their border? Consider I am chinese.i would never want any situation where India sit inside pakistan.this could be game over for china.you guys think that you can handle China diplomatically but China thinks about their own interest.pakistan is not only friend for China,it is a force against India and China will always want to see pakistan near it's Pakistani Kashmir border.
I mean no deal with China allow India to fight inside pakistani territory.china is not ready to accept such type of damage.
Ok. I surrender. I can handle stupidity, faux humility and all other base emotions. But I confess I can't handle naivete. @BMD ; @Guynextdoor seem like gurus when compared to you.
P. s - I've paid you a compliment.
Quite disagree. Chinese situation is not as good. They are also in big time debt and currently struggling with both internal and external problems too numerous for all of them to be listed here. Don't forget the short term goal of CPEC/OBOR is to transfer the debt to other countries. In such situation going to war will be the last thing China would want.
So basically you are accepting your army cannot defend your country and hence will run around begging anybody and everybody from Taliban to China. What a pathetic state of a so called “ Martial race “ !!
Why pathetic.. It has always worked for Pakistan.. They are smarter than we give them credit for... They could even explode a tactical nuclear weapon in Sindh desert. (but never in Punjab ) just to make the international community pull India back..
Pakistanis' don't understand this.. But, there is so much anger and frustration built up in India about Pakistan's unrelenting hostility and proxy war, that, if India manages to hold off the international powers ( only the US actually.. India will not stop due to China or Russia ), India will finish the fight with Pakistan Army even if things go nuclear..
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So u accept Pakistan is nothing but a Chinese pawn against India , glad u got it. Waiting for Chinese occupation of Paxstan. So hows chinese newspaper in Karachi going?
Do u know Pakistan army soldiers dress as Talibans and fight in it. There are multiple proofs regarding this. Do u know how many Talibanis were killed by US forces? More than 60K.
Do u think Taliban is some Allah ke bande that they will happily help you. Remember even Taliban has said that it appreciates Indian investments in Afghanistan.
Its impossible for Paxstan army to transport tens of thousands Talibanis into Kashmir , we will just display their bodies to the whole world that will put PA in a dump.
Remember when Talibanis will come to Kashmir they will be the foreigners and fight in foreign land. We will just crush them like in 90s. If u can use Taliban we will use Afghan army on your western front, FATA , Waziristan.
We know how to fight guerilla warfare.
At last your rhetoric concludes Paxstan army is only a paper tiger and good to sell cornflakes as they have no confidence in them and have to rely on Talibanis lol so whats the use of your army if they cant fight their war?disolve them.
Even the Taliban is fighting war for the last 20 years and if u think they happily come and get pounded by IA then i feel sorry for you.
Proxy is a reality.it exists on both sides.
You are already using afghan army and ttp,thanks for accepting your role as well.glad to see each side accepting roles of proxy.
Why you talk about secret deal with China? On one hand you are calling Chinese pawn against India,on other hand you are talking about secret deal.who wants China on its side? That is very much clear to me.
Pakistan army has successfully defended pakistan many times.proxy is reality my friend.ttp,bla,ptm they are all your proxies.why indian people quote people from ptm,ttp and bla if they don't use proxy? We aren't kids.i think everyone here understands definition of proxy.
We will make sure mutual destruction.there are no alternatives!
I believe something big is going to happen.i believe escalation will start immediately after pm modi speech.why heavy equipment deployment from indian side on Ib? Why? I know Americans are supporting you.do you really think that you can attack pakistan? What pm modi wants to say at UN?
It builds a strategic land linked corridor to Central Asia, Russia, Europe and Middle East via Afghanistan and Indepented Republic of Balochistan. India should recover the sparsely populated Gilgit Baltistan as well as the Chitral region (all bordered in red) in exchange for the Azad Kashmir (bordered in blue)
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