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See you are the same people who were cursing Trump on mediation offer,now you think America will take action with India against pakistan.they are your desires and you just can't fulfill it.denuclearization of India is also possible.you have no idea about pakistani strength.we will not leave any pilot this time no matter what.you think our defensive actions are weakness,they are not.

It is clear now that Trump knew about India's decision to abrogate 370 when he made that offer of mediation. No one is asking for de-nuclearization of India, everyone is asking for de-nuclearization of Pak.
 
It is clear now that Trump knew about India's decision to abrogate 370 when he made that offer of mediation. No one is asking for de-nuclearization of India, everyone is asking for de-nuclearization of Pak.
AND what Pakistan does not realise is that the whole world is after China and its stooges like Pakistan and North Korea. China will meet the fate of Germany while Pakistan will meet the fate of Italy. During WW2, after North African campaign, there was a joke that Italian Tanks have one gear forward and five in reverse.
It is as good as the saying in Pakistan, "Do not force us, otherwise we will surrender".
 
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It is clear now that Trump knew about India's decision to abrogate 370 when he made that offer of mediation. No one is asking for de-nuclearization of India, everyone is asking for de-nuclearization of Pak.
Everyone who can connect the dots knew 370 is going away when panic evacuations started.
 
It is clear now that Trump knew about India's decision to abrogate 370 when he made that offer of mediation. No one is asking for de-nuclearization of India, everyone is asking for de-nuclearization of Pak.

That was in BJP's manifesto and the bill was brought in a long time ago. Everybody knew something big was gonna happen.
 
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A few bits of information from the post Balakot air skirmish. Perhaps outdated information, so apologies if already posted

1. The skirmish was a veritable gold mine for EW specialists in IAF and NTRO/RAW. Especially given that PAF really did go into it with their top of the line EW/ECM/ECCM hardware. Lots of research being carried out. Don't be surprised if PAF hurriedly buys up Chinese/Swedish EW systems now for future engagements.

2. The lessons from the EW/ECM efforts at the jamming inbound strike package has already led to a shift in EW employment procedures. Additional improvements aimed at protecting ground assets underway. Unfortunately Do not have much clarity what this entails in entirety.

3. Everyone is waiting for September 27. The terrorists waiting at launch pads, their handlers, the Pak army, the residents in PoK in the line of fire, the Stone Pelters, the overground workers, the Militants on our side and finally the IA and J&K SOG. The Militants on our side are definitely waiting for something, restricting themselves to building up logistics as best they can. Confrontation with SF is being avoided. J&K police won't openly admit it, but there is this uneasy feeling, the air is heavy with anticipation. IA is more relaxed, but even here there is that sensation that things could rapidly get more intense. Higher headquarters are, for their first time, in a long time, brushing up for actual conventional engagements should a rush on positions occur. Orders from higher command is to ensure own forces seize the initiative from the get go, if things go hot.
 
A few bits of information from the post Balakot air skirmish. Perhaps outdated information, so apologies if already posted

1. The skirmish was a veritable gold mine for EW specialists in IAF and NTRO/RAW. Especially given that PAF really did go into it with their top of the line EW/ECM/ECCM hardware. Lots of research being carried out. Don't be surprised if PAF hurriedly buys up Chinese/Swedish EW systems now for future engagements.

2. The lessons from the EW/ECM efforts at the jamming inbound strike package has already led to a shift in EW employment procedures. Additional improvements aimed at protecting ground assets underway. Unfortunately Do not have much clarity what this entails in entirety.

3. Everyone is waiting for September 27. The terrorists waiting at launch pads, their handlers, the Pak army, the residents in PoK in the line of fire, the Stone Pelters, the overground workers, the Militants on our side and finally the IA and J&K SOG. The Militants on our side are definitely waiting for something, restricting themselves to building up logistics as best they can. Confrontation with SF is being avoided. J&K police won't openly admit it, but there is this uneasy feeling, the air is heavy with anticipation. IA is more relaxed, but even here there is that sensation that things could rapidly get more intense. Higher headquarters are, for their first time, in a long time, brushing up for actual conventional engagements should a rush on positions occur. Orders from higher command is to ensure own forces seize the initiative from the get go, if things go hot.


Members here are advised to read the excellent post here by @DivineHeretic quite carefully. Not very sure how many follow on questions the member may be willing to answer/respond on, so best, try and understand what has been said here.
 
See you are the same people who were cursing Trump on mediation offer

Well @Arsalan123 if you have been reading the odd post that I have made over the past few months, you shall find that the above was a reaction meant to be one for those who are in general domain. 2015 was a watershed moment as till 2015, in spite of US recognizing the challenges posed by the duplicity of Pakistan with respect to terror, PM Modi did not find adequate support from the International Community to take a decisive community. Not only that, the nation, i.e. India, was also unprepared to undertake the necessary steps needed. President Obama, although supportive of greater engagement with India including and not limited to joint military operations in Indo-Pacific and elsewhere, was not supportive of Indian actions against Pakistan based groups.

The election of President Trump as POTUS changed this equation. The same, this changeover, has been posted as early as 18 months back by me, and that is why 2015 is something I keep reiterating as it was in 2015 that India undertook the necessary steps, including military preparation and laying the groundwork, for ensuring that if the need arises, the Pakistani question can be settled.


now you think America will take action with India against pakistan.they are your desires and you just can't fulfill it.


That is the best part of the whole situation - we do not expect anyone to take any action, including ourselves. Do read my signature. It shall sum things up for you quite easily. Pakistan will provide all the excuses that anyone needs.




denuclearization of India is also possible.you have no idea about pakistani strength.

Au contraire we have a very precise idea of your strength. Recall the threat of 'nuclear weapons', 'support to Kashmiris' etc? Guess what, merely an impotent posturing by Pakistan till date. Every day that passes by, Pakistanis are digging their own graves, by putting up a narrative that they can simply not ensure.



we will not leave any pilot this time no matter what.you think our defensive actions are weakness,they are not.

Defensive?

Sir, your troops simply are unable to occupy the ridges that they have been forced to vacate. Understand that. And along Durmat Ridge, your posts line the ridge overlooking Kishenganga Dam. And all your country is able to do is naught. The dam is up and thriving. That, sir, is impotency.
 
A few war hysteric Lal Topi uwach..😀😀😂😂
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Higher headquarters are, for their first time, in a long time, brushing up for actual conventional engagements should a rush on positions occur. Orders from higher command is to ensure own forces seize the initiative from the get go, if things go hot.
@Falcon What in the definition of conventional engagements? Arent we doing such engagements on the loc already? And won't the old documents and SOPs kind off be useless by now as we have already up'ed the ante from past few months? How do these things work?
 
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