India - Pakistan Standoff 2019

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hellbent said:
Just a couple of posts before the DRDO cluster bomb post of mine , I had written a post where I mentioned RRCAT and BARC and importantly " minute pellet sized holy cow dung "

It seem a mod literally took it to be cow dung and deleted the post. :p

Firing mechanism testing is no big deal , infact let me assure you DRDO tech is on par with the best out there , when the por........ were running after medical kidney stone breaking machines all over the world to salvage the spark gaps , India was well ahead with the next generation iteration of the high voltage trigger mechanism. Since few years we use the latest generation tech at par with US . Miniaturisation is at the highest possible level.

I even posted pics related to that I believe somewhere else.

Coming to your questions what is point in testing a nuke without the fissile materials unless you are interested in testing the firing mechanism , the detonators the wave shapers the explosive lenses ie the whole setup minus the core. Some call it cold testing .

Por...... we're reportedly doing cold tests with Chinese supplied complete setup without the fissile materials , while back home series of cold tests at subscale level with Pu and surrogates was being done. One can do fullscale surrogate implosions in labs but not with Pu , however coupled with data from live tests etc , a correlation can be established between Pu and the surrogates ( extends to tamper, gases etc ) at subscale and fullscale implosion level between the 2 , and hence can accurately stimulate a real Pu implosion at all levels of scalability in lab conditions.

Understand the difference between subscale and subcritical tests , they are totally different.

Anyways
My attention was drawn when a nuclear establishment got a barrel rated at xxx kbar , for comparison the most powerful conventional military gun barrel is rated at a small fraction of the above.

Anyways
Again look at the work being done for radiograph , flash X ray , pulse power driven systems etc etc and also ICF ( if one is interested in the secondary stage , interest in pure fusion devices is a driving factor too )

Anyways
RRCAT is the most sanctioned R&D facility for a reason ;)

Anyways
Hopefully you will get to read the post before it gets deleted :ROFLMAO:
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Many thanks for This Detailed Technical
Explanation

So that means Yesterday' s Explosions Could have been a Part of Some New Strategic Technologies being Validated
 
Small Nukes should be put on Prahar Missile and GHQ Rawalpindi and ISI HQ at Aabpara must be blown up

No Collateral damage , all Jihadi Scum killed in One Blow
 
STEPHEN COHEN said:
Small Nukes should be put on Prahar Missile and GHQ Rawalpindi and ISI HQ at Aabpara must be blown up

No Collateral damage , all Jihadi Scum killed in One Blow
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They will launch their tactical nuke on their own soil due to unrest, why should India waste nukes on Pakistan and invite nuclear winter in case nuclear exchange.
 
STEPHEN COHEN said:
Many thanks for This Detailed Technical
Explanation

So that means Yesterday' s Explosions Could have been a Part of Some New Strategic Technologies being Validated
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Seriously bro ?

Explosions ?

There are no explosions like the one you are imagining, involved in the processes I talked about.

No Bang, no Kaboom , no such thing :geek:

If that had been the case all RRCAT and BARC facilities where such experiments take place would have been filled with craters :cautious:

Laboratory testings don't involve explosion perse they create hydrodynamic and implosion conditions (both static and dynamic) similar to a nuclear explosion on a very subscale level without involving any explosives and if required very minute quantities scaled to weapon geometries , so that everything is contained within the test apparatus inside the lab. Radiation released is very bare minimum and very short lived and contained inside the test equipment's.

The " holy cow dung pellets " used in lab tests are smaller than the smallest pin heads

And seriously there was no nuke test of any sorts carried out in pokhran yesterday , that's sheer balcony to believe for hundreds of reasons. What you can to a large extent inside the comforts of your lab , why do it outside that too in a bigger scale with no significant benefits.

Let's not be like the po.......... , Let us use reason and common sense.
 
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hellbent said:
Seriously bro ?

What explosions ?

There are no explosions like the one you are imagining, involved in the processes I talked about.

No Bang, no Kaboom , no such thing :geek:

If that had been the case all RRCAT and BARC facilities where such experiments take place would have been filled with craters :cautious:

Laboratory testings don't involve explosion perse they create hydrodynamic conditions (both static and dynamic) similar to a nuclear explosion on a very subscale level without involving any explosives and if required very minute quantities , so that everything is contained within the test apparatus inside the lab. Radiation released is very bare minimum and very short lived and contained inside the test equipment's.

The " holy cow dung pellets " used in tests are smaller than the smallest pin heads

And seriously there was no nuke test of any sorts carried out in pokhran yesterday , that's sheer balcony to believe for hundreds of reasons.
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See if Some new Conventional weapon was tested like SAAW or Glide Bomb or CBU type weapon , then DRDO
Would have given a press release

Saying that we were disposing old ammo is also funny

We can only speculate and Wait
 
STEPHEN COHEN said:
Why should India allow Pakistan to use its Nukes

No First Use is suicidal
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My point was, due to political unrest and anarchy when the power goes out of military's hand they will threaten their own people with nuclear weapon and may launch it on them.

Fortunately in 1971 Pakistan did not have it, otherwise they would have blown Dhaka with nuclear strike.
 
STEPHEN COHEN said:
See if Some new Conventional weapon was tested like SAAW or Glide Bomb or CBU type weapon , then DRDO
Would have given a press release

Saying that we were disposing old ammo is also funny

We can only speculate and Wait
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DRDO doesn't not always go public regarding the test of its systems.

Initial development tests of NGARM , SANT , FAE , SAAW ,MLPGM etc etc were not declared.

There is no fixed rule, DRDO releases info on tests if it suits them
 
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Guynextdoor said:
What were the yields of the other tests?
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Let me take the liberty

I can't guess the yields but I am guessing

Very low yield sub kiloton devices that barely went critical , and with such low yields that they were not detected by the seismic detectors.

Or

Higher yield sub kiloton devices whose seismic signature got masked by the other bigger yield devices .
 
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Calling on India to “rescind” its actions revoking Article 370 in Jammu and Kashmir, Saudi Arabia joined Pakistan, Azerbaijan, Turkey, Niger to issue a statement on behalf of the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) Kashmir contact group, criticising the government’s actions there... THE HINDU, 26 th SEPTEMBER

Doval would have had quite a frank discussion with the Saudis...
 
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